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What is the best flav... you all know what this question is:
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Labour 907 49.92%
Theresa May Team (Conservative) 48 2.64%
Liberal Democrats 31 1.71%
UKIP 13 0.72%
Plaid Cymru 25 1.38%
Green 22 1.21%
Scottish Socialist Party 12 0.66%
Scottish Conservative Party 1 0.06%
Scottish National Party 59 3.25%
Some Kind of Irish Unionist 4 0.22%
Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian 3 0.17%
Some Kind of Irish Nationalist 36 1.98%
Misc. Far Left Trots 35 1.93%
Misc. Far Right Fash 8 0.44%
Monster Raving Loony 49 2.70%
Space Navies Party 39 2.15%
Independent / Single Issue 2 0.11%
Can't Vote 188 10.35%
Won't Vote 8 0.44%
Spoiled Ballot 15 0.83%
Pissflaps 312 17.17%
Total: 1817 votes
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OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Gandhi just has a very advanced understanding of pacifism whereby the truest peace is in the annihilation of the human race.

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Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

OwlFancier posted:

Gandhi just has a very advanced understanding of pacifism whereby the truest peace is in the annihilation of the human race.

Yeah, that's actually pretty much what happened in the early Civilisations. His natural downward modified to AI aggression plus his preferred form of government (which also reduces aggression) broke the scale and meant that he looped all the way round to maximum aggression and started bathing the world in nuclear hellfire.

They kept actual, deliberate variations on the same basic concept in later games because it was funny as gently caress.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Yeah wasn't the initial problem a signed/unsigned integer problem where it put him into negative aggressiveness which if you read it without the signing bit is actually maximum possible aggressiveness?

And yeah he remains nuke happy in later games, and yes it's hilarious. Gandhi will spend the whole game chewing you out for not being peaceful while not pursuing wars himself until he gets nuclear weaponry at which point he will start blowing the poo poo out of everything he can with no provocation.

TomViolence
Feb 19, 2013

PLEASE ASK ABOUT MY 80,000 WORD WALLACE AND GROMIT SLASH FICTION. PLEASE.

Zephro
Nov 23, 2000

I suppose I could part with one and still be feared...

Guavanaut posted:

Unless everyone dies fairly instantly, in which case that's close to morally neutral as there's nobody left behind to grieve. It could even be viewed as a net moral good, since over the course of the following centuries it overall prevents more deaths.

Unfortunately none of our nuclear arsenals are good enough to achieve that, and we should all be investing in Corbyn's asteroid idea.
:sax:
No more ashes! No more sackcloth!
And an arm band made of black cloth
Will some day nevermore adorn a sleeve!
For if the bomb that drops on you
Gets your friends and neighbors too,
There’ll be nobody left behind to grieve!
:sax:

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



ShaneMacGowansTeeth posted:

The only good nukes are the ones you drop on France, or maybe India, in Civ 4

I may have related this anecdote before, but one of my fondest Civ 4 memories (And I have a lot) is carpet-nuking Isabella. Crazy zealot had given me grief all game long so she got her just desserts.

Let me be clear (:torysay:) that by 'carpet-nuking' I don't mean I spammed a lot of nukes at her, or that I simply nuked every city she had, or something else so underwhelming. No, I built over 130 nukes and launched one in a single turn at every tile she owned. I had a few spare so Madrid got hit like seven times.

Ms Adequate fucked around with this message at 06:05 on Jun 28, 2017

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Mister Adequate posted:

I may have related this anecdote before, but one of my fondest Civ 4 memories (And I have a lot) is carpet-nuking Isabella. Crazy zealot had given me grief all game long so she got her just desserts.

Let me be clear (:torysay:) that by 'carpet-nuking' I don't mean I spammed a lot of nukes at her, or that I simply nuked every city she had, or something else so underwhelming. No, I built over 130 nukes and launched one in a single turn at every tile she owned. I had a few spare so Madrid got hit like seven times.

And was this possible because she didn't have any nukes?

Gradis
Feb 27, 2016

GAPE APE

Mister Adequate posted:

I may have related this anecdote before, but one of my fondest Civ 4 memories (And I have a lot) is carpet-nuking Isabella. Crazy zealot had given me grief all game long so she got her just desserts.

Let me be clear (:torysay:) that by 'carpet-nuking' I don't mean I spammed a lot of nukes at her, or that I simply nuked every city she had, or something else so underwhelming. No, I built over 130 nukes and launched one in a single turn at every tile she owned. I had a few spare so Madrid got hit like seven times.

our new Gandhi

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



Miftan posted:

And was this possible because she didn't have any nukes?

Nukes, hell, I'm pretty sure she didn't have any internal combustion engines.

e; but it's not like I care about getting nuked, I've launched nukes at my own cities when I've run out of enemy targets some games. :kheldragar:

number one pta fan
Sep 6, 2011

my work is my play play
every day pay day
It must have been three installations of Civ before I found out about Gandhi, Destroyer of Worlds. I thought it was just my personal RNG skewing that way for nearly ten years.

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
Oh Christ, I saw the number of replies and thought News had happened but it's all American political chat and gaming :(

Blasmeister
Jan 15, 2012




2Time TRP Sack Race Champion

learnincurve posted:

Oh Christ, I saw the number of replies and thought News had happened but it's all American political chat and gaming :(

Here have some fairly uplifting news and some rage-inducing news

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh
I just saw what they did to the V&A and am pretty much at maximum rage right now. Future generations are going to look at it and go "I hope the egotistical pricks didn't damage the structure of the building when they did this"

Captain Fargle
Feb 16, 2011

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-40423052

Labour is going to force a vote today on an end to the public sector pay cap.

and i must meme
Jan 15, 2017

how did british people become good overnight

Kegluneq
Feb 18, 2011

Mr President, the physical reality of Prime Minister Corbyn is beyond your range of apprehension. If you'll just put on these PINKOVISION glasses...

and i must meme posted:

how did british people become good overnight

woah steady on

quote:

61% of people think it is wrong for benefit claimants to use legal loopholes to increase their payments, compared with 48% who think it is wrong to use legal loopholes to pay less tax.

The view that it was acceptable to use legal loopholes to pay less tax was most strongly felt among people who were better off

and i must meme
Jan 15, 2017

Kegluneq posted:

woah steady on

oh they were garbage all along thank god

Kegluneq
Feb 18, 2011

Mr President, the physical reality of Prime Minister Corbyn is beyond your range of apprehension. If you'll just put on these PINKOVISION glasses...

and i must meme posted:

oh they were garbage all along thank god

idiot thumb people status: confirmed

quote:

More than half of those surveyed - 53% - would support detaining people indefinitely at the time of a suspected terrorist attack without putting them on trial. UK law restricts this to 14 days

45% of those who trust the government a great deal or tend to trust it voted Leave, compared with 65% of those who distrust it greatly

PIGS BREXIT
Mar 29, 2017

Brexit was pretty clearly a vote against the government though?

Against power structures in general, really

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
remember before the election when yvette cooper was being linked with labour leader again

https://twitter.com/YvetteForLabour...re--WygnVbY1t4e

TomViolence
Feb 19, 2013

PLEASE ASK ABOUT MY 80,000 WORD WALLACE AND GROMIT SLASH FICTION. PLEASE.

Jose posted:

remember before the election when yvette cooper was being linked with labour leader again

https://twitter.com/YvetteForLabour...re--WygnVbY1t4e

My favourite part is that "no it wasn't me that farted, don't be ridiculous" look on her face.

Mighty Steed
Apr 16, 2005
Nice horsey

Captain Fargle posted:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-40423052

Labour is going to force a vote today on an end to the public sector pay cap.

If this goes to a vote it's a win for Corbyn whatever way the vote goes. He's played it beautifully.

More pay for firefighters, police and nurses being voted down with help from the DUP would be so hard for the Tories to spin positively and would look very, very bad.

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.

and i must meme posted:

how did british people become good overnight

British Public Wrong About Nearly Everything, Survey Shows

TomViolence
Feb 19, 2013

PLEASE ASK ABOUT MY 80,000 WORD WALLACE AND GROMIT SLASH FICTION. PLEASE.

Mighty Steed posted:

If this goes to a vote it's a win for Corbyn whatever way the vote goes. He's played it beautifully.

More pay for firefighters, police and nurses being voted down with help from the DUP would be so hard for the Tories to spin positively and would look very, very bad.

BBC's already trying its best to pre-emptively frame it as :qq:that dastardly Corbyn playing politics, the monster.:qq:

DesperateDan
Dec 10, 2005

Where's my cow?

Is that my cow?

No it isn't, but it still tramples my bloody lavender.
In the words of dear old skunk anansie, yes it's loving political

DesperateDan fucked around with this message at 08:52 on Jun 28, 2017

WeAreTheRomans
Feb 23, 2010

by R. Guyovich

learnincurve posted:

I just saw what they did to the V&A and am pretty much at maximum rage right now. Future generations are going to look at it and go "I hope the egotistical pricks didn't damage the structure of the building when they did this"

Looks well designed and thoughtful to me :shrug:

Ewan
Sep 29, 2008

Ewan is tired of his reputation as a serious Simon. I'm more of a jokester than you people think. My real name isn't even Ewan, that was a joke it's actually MARTIN! LOL fooled you again, it really is Ewan! Look at that monkey with a big nose, Ewan is so random! XD
What is the consequence of an amendment to the Queen's speech getting raised by the opposition and passing (obvs aside from the amendment becoming Gov policy)? Is it just embarrassment or are there other consequences?

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh

WeAreTheRomans posted:

Looks well designed and thoughtful to me :shrug:

It looks like somone's messed up and shoehorned the Tate modern's new cafe onto the V&A.

ShaneMacGowansTeeth
May 22, 2007



I think this is it... I think this is how it ends

Mister Adequate posted:

I may have related this anecdote before, but one of my fondest Civ 4 memories (And I have a lot) is carpet-nuking Isabella. Crazy zealot had given me grief all game long so she got her just desserts.

Let me be clear (:torysay:) that by 'carpet-nuking' I don't mean I spammed a lot of nukes at her, or that I simply nuked every city she had, or something else so underwhelming. No, I built over 130 nukes and launched one in a single turn at every tile she owned. I had a few spare so Madrid got hit like seven times.

you do this then enforce a nuclear non-proliferation treaty through the UN

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
i don't know why you'd play any other civ game when alpha centauri exists

TomViolence
Feb 19, 2013

PLEASE ASK ABOUT MY 80,000 WORD WALLACE AND GROMIT SLASH FICTION. PLEASE.

"It is every citizen's final duty to go into the tanks and become one with all the people."
—Chairman Sheng-ji Yang, “Ethics for Tomorrow”

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

nopantsjack posted:

Isn't an aircraft carrier just an insanely expensive floating target for drones though?

They're useful for projecting power from off the coast down onto the heads of shepherds and wedding goers but I don't think they'd be that useful surely in a conventional war nowadays.

They are OP in Hearts of Iron though.

A few pages back unfortunately because this thread likes to really move when I'm not looking thanks to timezones.

My understanding just due to what I have was told by people who I trusted back in the day is that surface vessels are basically just targets to subs, let alone a drone attack.
(those weren't really a thing we talked about at the time, just thought of them as remote controlled planes back then)

Captain Fargle posted:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-40423052

Labour is going to force a vote today on an end to the public sector pay cap.

Excellent. That magic money tree May was hiding should still be good after all.

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid
Yankees go home imho

that oval office Oliver letwin was on today talking about how labour opposing the public sector pay freeze was just party politics and that people should be more concerned about the services themselves which are "starting to be strained" as though the last 7 years never happened and the two are completely unconnected

he also tried explaining the relationship between taxation spending and borrowing to the presenter like she was an idiot because they're laying the groundwork for tax increases on p much everyone apart from "what Jeremy Corby would call the super rich"

also he said that austerity was just a political catchphrase

Christ what an arsehole

Party Boat
Nov 1, 2007

where did that other dog come from

who is he


Ewan posted:

What is the consequence of an amendment to the Queen's speech getting raised by the opposition and passing (obvs aside from the amendment becoming Gov policy)? Is it just embarrassment or are there other consequences?

It means that the government is unable to command a majority in the House of Commons, and pre FTPA it would have forced another election. Now it's much more uncertain - there's a decent writeup here: https://www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/blog/queen-speech-and-fixed-term-parliaments-act

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009

XMNN posted:

Yankees go home imho

that oval office Oliver letwin was on today talking about how labour opposing the public sector pay freeze was just party politics and that people should be more concerned about the services themselves which are "starting to be strained" as though the last 7 years never happened and the two are completely unconnected

he also tried explaining the relationship between taxation spending and borrowing to the presenter like she was an idiot because they're laying the groundwork for tax increases on p much everyone apart from "what Jeremy Corby would call the super rich"

also he said that austerity was just a political catchphrase

Christ what an arsehole


oliverletwin.txt

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Ewan posted:

What is the consequence of an amendment to the Queen's speech getting raised by the opposition and passing (obvs aside from the amendment becoming Gov policy)? Is it just embarrassment or are there other consequences?

I don't think it even becomes enforceable government policy to be honest.

Doctor_Fruitbat
Jun 2, 2013


What is with this recent trend of politicians demanding that other politicians stop politicising things? It's like their backs are against the wall and they have no options left to justify anything they do, so they just demand that their opponents stop opposing them. It plays nicely with the 'why don't these people stop arguing all the time and just sort things out' crowd too.

Doctor_Fruitbat fucked around with this message at 10:27 on Jun 28, 2017

The DPRK
Nov 18, 2006

Lipstick Apathy
Is Civ 6 good? I enjoyed Civ 5 with mates but found the multiplayer really loving cumbersome and was hoping they'd fix it in the next installment. £50 loving quid though...

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

Doctor_Fruitbat posted:

What is with this recent trend of politicians demanding that other politicians stop politicising things? It's like their backs are against the wall and they have no options left to justify anything they do, so they just demand that their opponents stop opposing them. The stupidity of the 'why don't these people stop arguing all the time and just sort things out' crowd is contagious, apparently.

It's that.

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jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer

The DPRK posted:

Is Civ 6 good? I enjoyed Civ 5 with mates but found the multiplayer really loving cumbersome and was hoping they'd fix it in the next installment. £50 loving quid tho...
Nah it's bollocks.

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