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Maarek posted:I looked through that thread after the election and it was incredible how angry and mean people got at anyone who said they were worried about it being close or her losing. Unsurprisingly almost none of the people who were completely wrong about everything seemed to step back and question their strategies or ideologies post-election. my general fear was clinton would lose to trump, specifically, but if she fought any other candidate she would have won by virtue of people going "oh gently caress this" and we'd have the lowest turnout election in recent history i went in hard for bernie when it was becoming clear trump could possibly win... i felt he stood the better chance against the entire field, while hillary would potentially win against another run of the mill politician. no one wanted the loving status quo in 2016
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Vox Nihili posted:https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3796651&userid=113160 the days of shook and arzying were dark days
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Arzy was a visionary who showed up 8 years too early
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that day, we were all shook nate
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consumed by normies posted:the days of shook and arzying were dark days that guys last posts are "hillary is going to win" and then a random question about path of exile hes probably still collecting loot to this day...
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also i forgive anyone who thinks hillary would have won under the assumption she actually had a real campaign which is actually a pretty understandable but retrospectively wrong take
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it was the consistent polling that got, and still gets me. Were the samples of the polling companies that biased and wrong? Or did the people they sampled not report accurately, or was there a flaw in the methodology? Or, once the people got inside the polling booth, did something just, snap? Maybe there's an element of politics that can't be reduced to a number, no matter how hard you try, and any attempt at quantifying it leads to failure.
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remember how the more electable candidate was the one who consistently polled 5-10 points worse against every republican
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anime was right posted:also i forgive anyone who thinks hillary would have won under the assumption she actually had a real campaign which is actually a pretty understandable but retrospectively wrong take i still laugh when i remember hrc's campaign was coordinated by a robot they were gonna triumphantly reveal when she won
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rudatron posted:it was the consistent polling that got, and still gets me. w/r/t wisconsin, michigan, and florida at least, the polling and likely voter models probably don't take into account voter suppression and disenfranchisement
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rudatron posted:it was the consistent polling that got, and still gets me. voter suppression + the "shamed into not admitting i'd vote for trump" factor + we were mostly using national polls and not the really tight areas that could swing the election. if a voter has every intent of voting and the models are right, but they have been removed from the records in some fashion, that counts as a representative vote in a poll that is not actually counter. if republicans successfully hosed over say, a single cities worth of voters in oh say, milwaukee, congrats, trump just won wisconsin despite being behind in entirely accurate polls. this is why i keep screaming gently caress the presidency, win congress + every statehouse and then work from there. as our cities gets denser and denser, the landowner advantage built into the system continuously favors republicans. its only going to get worse, not better. states control voting laws, not the feds, and yet almost every state is controlled by republicans right now... anime was right has issued a correction as of 07:57 on Jun 28, 2017 |
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consumed by normies posted:what kind of sick bastard blocks dril thats how you definitely prove that youre not owned and in fact find all of this funny
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fits my needs posted:Zuck will do more. Zuck will cure all diseases. will curing all diseases end racism, though?
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anime was right posted:voter suppression + the "shamed into not admitting i'd vote for trump" factor + we were mostly using national polls and not the really tight areas that could swing the election. if a voter has every intent of voting and the models are right, but they have been removed from the records in some fashion, that counts as a representative vote in a poll that is not actually counter. if republicans successfully hosed over say, a single cities worth of voters in oh say, milwaukee, congrats, trump just won wisconsin despite being behind in entirely accurate polls. Milwaukee had low turnout for blacks in general much due to low enthusiasm. There were a lot of articles specifically about it. I mean look at this poo poo: http://www.tmj4.com/news/local-news/not-everyones-feeling-hillary-clintons-hype https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/21/us/many-in-milwaukee-neighborhood-didnt-vote-and-dont-regret-it.html http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/11/why-black-voters-in-milwaukee-werent-enthused-by-clinton.html
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rudatron posted:it was the consistent polling that got, and still gets me. the likely voter models were closer to the 2012 electorate The Muppets On PCP has issued a correction as of 08:31 on Jun 28, 2017 |
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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:will curing all diseases end racism, though? racism is a disease and zuck's nanobots will redesign the brains of racists to optimize societal harmony
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not spending at least 4 hours a day on facebook will also be considered a disease
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https://twitter.com/marx_knopfler/status/879973622990995456
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anime was right posted:voter suppression + the "shamed into not admitting i'd vote for trump" factor + we were mostly using national polls and not the really tight areas that could swing the election. if a voter has every intent of voting and the models are right, but they have been removed from the records in some fashion, that counts as a representative vote in a poll that is not actually counter. if republicans successfully hosed over say, a single cities worth of voters in oh say, milwaukee, congrats, trump just won wisconsin despite being behind in entirely accurate polls. there's a reason why republicans tend not to lose states once they get them they just start emptying buckshot into their states' voting rights asap
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finally an explanation for why hillary clinton didnt campaign in wisconsin
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Yinlock posted:there's a reason why republicans tend not to lose states once they get them the dnc tends to just throw up its arms and give up pretend i reposted that article where they kept running ghost canidates in georgia than thought they could win with ossoff
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Zoran posted:god, the election thread is so good for some morbid humor every once in a while How do you quote from archives? But anyway... https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3796651&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=126#post466235993 quote:NRVNQSR
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rudatron posted:it was the consistent polling that got, and still gets me. pollsters' likely voter models were way off they assumed that, compared to 2012, minorities would come out in force to vote overwhelmingly against the openly racist corncob, while white people turnout would be lower than usual because they wouldn't be enthusiastic about the sexist goblin. that was pretty much the exact opposite of what actually happened. for some dumb reason a bunch of people assumed that the black turnout in 2008 and 2012 was the new normal rather than outliers caused by Obama specifically so their estimates were way off, Hispanics weren't as pro-Hillary as expected, and white turnout was basically as usual.
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The Muppets On PCP posted:the likely voter models were closer to the 2012 electorate Wasn't it the lowest turnout election for a long time? Or just real bad
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UHD posted:primary the human race Primate it. doesnt that new apes movie come out soon? this is a cool song i found last night https://youtu.be/ZLMOotOENE0
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"Post your map" *firmly grasps bunghole and inwidens it to engulf known universe*
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SHY NUDIST GRRL posted:Wasn't it the lowest turnout election for a long time? Or just real bad Apparently the initial estimates of this didn't take into account early voting/vote by mail to the extent that they should, but yeah, turnout wasn't great, and a few places (notably Wisconsin) had restrictive Voter ID laws that took effect for the first time in 2016 too.
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docbeard posted:Apparently the initial estimates of this didn't take into account early voting/vote by mail to the extent that they should, but yeah, turnout wasn't great, and a few places (notably Wisconsin) had restrictive Voter ID laws that took effect for the first time in 2016 too. proof that democrats cant win without rampant voter fraud!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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mormonpartyboat posted:proof that democrats cant win without rampant voter fraud!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Those millions of illegal votes! (Every vote for a democrat is an illegal vote.)
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lol Obama says Sanders' supporters helped undermine Obamacare quote:President Barack Obama said on Friday that criticism from the left wing of his own Democratic Party helped feed into the unpopularity of Obamacare, his signature healthcare reform law.
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im glad theyre dismantling your lovely legacy obama
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lol this is my first time seeing this what a whiny piece of garbage.
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quote:"The problem is not that they think Obamacare is a failure. The problem is that they don't think it went far enough and that it left too many people still uncovered," Obama said. confused as to what the problem here is
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poo poo I didn't realize that was old. My bad.
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