Star Citizen: Death of a Space Thread?

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Ghostlight: Sep 25, 2009; maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me

Exinos posted:

Trying to decide what's worse, and therefore what option CIG goes with.

1) They release 3.0 before gamescom and it's steaming poo poo. All but the most faithful realize the game is going nowhere and funding falls short of expectations.

2) They realize the game is so poo poo it's a risk to release, however Croberts has to try and show something at gamescom with the ghost of last year hanging around and reminding everyone it's 8+ months late.

3) Last minute announcement they are skipping gamescom and focusing on the true fans with CitCon.

#3 is the worst because it means a delay on laughs.

# ? Jun 28, 2017 08:07

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# ? May 16, 2024 09:57

XK: Jul 9, 2001; Star Citizen is everywhere. It is all around us. Even now, in this very room. You can see it's fidelity when you look out your window or when you watch youtube

spacetoaster posted:

Yeah. That site was pretty bad. Here's the GBS thread on it: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3772600

I remember Lando was streaming when the news broke of Ben's site. You could see him get distracted, hurriedly click through a couple links, then just gets this super aggravated look on his face.

It was one of my favorite SC moments.

# ? Jun 28, 2017 08:16

Maw: Feb 18, 2013; Mere minutes after discovering the new technology, it was used to send me a crude ASCII dong.

XK posted:

I remember Lando was streaming when the news broke of Ben's site. You could see him get distracted, hurriedly click through a couple links, then just gets this super aggravated look on his face.

It was one of my favorite SC moments.

I think I'd enjoy the tell all book written by Lando

# ? Jun 28, 2017 08:19

Dark Off: Aug 14, 2015

XK posted:

I remember Lando was streaming when the news broke of Ben's site. You could see him get distracted, hurriedly click through a couple links, then just gets this super aggravated look on his face.

It was one of my favorite SC moments.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJS8OiT2Frw
also yes they were streaming paint drying in greenscreen room

Dark Off fucked around with this message at 09:01 on Jun 28, 2017

# ? Jun 28, 2017 08:59

Yolomon Wayne: Jun 10, 2014; You call it "The Big Bang", but what really happened is; Grimey Drawer

Dementropy posted:

Reddit still fabricating mysterious legends about DS before claiming goons workship him?

# ? Jun 28, 2017 09:06

Trilobite: Aug 15, 2001

EggsAisle posted:

Swap out "cautionary" for "inspirational" and you've got yourself the classic Citizen pitch. In the end, I wonder if we're not just as trapped in orbit as they are. Though at least the goons are a little more self-aware.

Yeah, especially now.

It's certainly true that everyone can see what CIG has actually produced after years of work and millions of dollars:
- an incomplete alpha split into different modules,
- a lot of expensive jpgs of ships,
- a long list of core features that they "hope" will be added "soon," and
- a lot of promises made over the past year that critical technical and game design problems are this close to being solved (echoing similar promises made the year before).

You'd have to be made of stone to not have some kind of reaction to seeing all of that: no matter how much you might want to be able to remain entirely impartial and say "I guess we'll see what happens," your brain's already plotted the trajectory and made its best guess about where Star Citizen is going to end up. And that's even before you get into the personalities running the show over at CIG, and what your immediate reaction to them might be. Even if you don't want to choose a side, you probably already did.

# ? Jun 28, 2017 09:33

Bofast: Feb 21, 2011; Grimey Drawer

Barcley posted:

Got my refund today from kick starting this thing in 2012! Gonna spend it on games that are actually in existence.

Good for you, commando :hfive:

# ? Jun 28, 2017 10:07

Mr Fronts: Jan 31, 2016; Yo! The Mafia supports you. But don't tell no one. Spread the word.

Barcley posted:

Got my refund today from kick starting this thing in 2012! Gonna spend it on games that are actually in existence.

It's this kind of toxic-dink instant-gratification short-termism that is undermining the future of crowdfunding. You should be ashamed of yourself.

# ? Jun 28, 2017 10:37

MedicineHut: Feb 25, 2016

Exinos posted:

Trying to decide what's worse, and therefore what option CIG goes with.

1) They release 3.0 before gamescom and it's steaming poo poo. All but the most faithful realize the game is going nowhere and funding falls short of expectations.

2) They realize the game is so poo poo it's a risk to release, however Croberts has to try and show something at gamescom with the ghost of last year hanging around and reminding everyone it's 8+ months late.

3) Last minute announcement they are skipping gamescom and focusing on the true fans with CitCon.

I'll go with 1) before or at Gamescom as the most realistic. Even if it is poo poo it is still under the veil of alpha and Evocati. Shitizens have proven extremely resilient to poo poo quality as long as it is there. Crobberts knows a delay beyond Gamescom will be probably devastating for credibility and therefore funding, whereas a poo poo product still suggests progress and hope to improve.

# ? Jun 28, 2017 11:21

AP: Jul 12, 2004; One Ring to fool them all
One Ring to find them
One Ring to milk them all
and pockets fully line them; Grimey Drawer

https://twitter.com/BoredGamerUK/status/880005695814463488

# ? Jun 28, 2017 11:54

no_recall: Aug 17, 2015; Lipstick Apathy

He's probably paid by a CIG shell company.

# ? Jun 28, 2017 12:06

Virtual Captain: Feb 20, 2017; Archive Priest of the Stimperial Order

Star Citizen Good, in all things forevermore. Amen.

Exinos posted:

Trying to decide what's worse, and therefore what option CIG goes with.

1) They release 3.0 before gamescom and it's steaming poo poo. All but the most faithful realize the game is going nowhere and funding falls short of expectations.

2) They realize the game is so poo poo it's a risk to release, however Croberts has to try and show something at gamescom with the ghost of last year hanging around and reminding everyone it's 8+ months late.

3) Last minute announcement they are skipping gamescom and focusing on the true fans with CitCon.

I'm gonna go with #2 but it could also be because three months of scrambling is not enough to get 3.0 planetside gamemode (aka two or three cyengine maps) out the door. See Sandi's tweet about polishing up some derelict ships.

Jobbo_Fett posted:

Buddy at the LA office told me that the only reason they started making the "Making Of" Documentary when they did was so that they could have it ready for the MVP. They plan on releasing the game, claiming full product status, and pledge to patch in eveeything else.

The documentary will be a bonus added on dvd, along with whatever mocap/filming they were able to unfuck and paste together like some lovely teenage backyard no-budget movie.

# ? Jun 28, 2017 12:10

Lazrin: Apr 13, 2016; THEN HE SAID..NO WAIT, LISTEN. THEN HE SAID 3.0 IS COMING OUT BY DEC 19TH 2016

Chalks posted:

Hey Derek, you should send an email to Coutts saying you're writing an article about their partnership and ask them for a statement on why they've agreed to partner with a video game developer. Their official response would be worth a blog post on it's own, eh?

you remember derek isn't your leader, right?

edit: o wait

# ? Jun 28, 2017 12:21

Yolomon Wayne: Jun 10, 2014; You call it "The Big Bang", but what really happened is; Grimey Drawer

poo poo youre still alive?

and still on the "goons follow derek" trail?
That only reddit talk of, and believes?

# ? Jun 28, 2017 12:28

Thirsty Dog: May 31, 2007

Lazrin posted:

you remember derek isn't your leader, right?

edit: o wait

Leaders are defined by people telling them what to do

# ? Jun 28, 2017 12:35

SelenicMartian: Sep 14, 2013; Sometimes it's not the bomb that's retarded.

AP posted:

https://twitter.com/BoredGamerUK/status/880005695814463488

That excludes neither individuals, nor third parties contracted by CIG.

# ? Jun 28, 2017 12:38

AtlantisMantis: Feb 8, 2008; aut vincere aut mori

Lazrin posted:

you remember derek isn't your leader, right?

edit: o wait

Hey Lazrin, is 3.0 out yet?

# ? Jun 28, 2017 12:50

Dementropy: Aug 23, 2010

Lazrin posted:

you remember derek isn't your leader, right?

edit: o wait

Do you think it is within industry standard tolerances for CIG to take out a loan against their assets, when their forward-facing cash flow already seems healthy?

Also, what are your thoughts on Ashes of Creation?

# ? Jun 28, 2017 13:01

Tijuana Bibliophile: Dec 30, 2008; Scratchmo

Lazrin posted:

you remember derek isn't your leader, right?

edit: o wait

You're good for Star Citizen.

# ? Jun 28, 2017 13:05

Chalks: Sep 30, 2009

Lazrin posted:

you remember derek isn't your leader, right?

edit: o wait

The thread of logic here being that if you tell someone to do something then that person is your leader? I'm not sure you have that the right way round.

Are you enjoying 3.0 by the way?

# ? Jun 28, 2017 13:09

Bofast: Feb 21, 2011; Grimey Drawer

Tippis posted:

Dammit Ortwin. Here he comes trying to spin things that don't even make sense, just when I found this excellent pizza article: http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/johan-kugelberg/swedish-pizza_b_1608146.html

I do like how weird Swedish pizza can be, especially the more extreme specials that have way too much stuff on them.
Still doesn't beat the weirdness of a "hamburger meal in a calzone", though:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ha86cWkD50U

# ? Jun 28, 2017 13:27

Mr Fronts: Jan 31, 2016; Yo! The Mafia supports you. But don't tell no one. Spread the word.

AP posted:

https://twitter.com/BoredGamerUK/status/880005695814463488

But Coutts and Co. send him monthly gift hampers (and payday loan discount offers).

# ? Jun 28, 2017 13:33

Jobbo_Fett: Mar 7, 2014; Slava Ukrayini; Clapping Larry

hot balls man no homo posted:

Edit: late cat taxe

Please don't post Sarlacc Pits, I'm still sensitive about it.

# ? Jun 28, 2017 13:37

Dementropy: Aug 23, 2010

# ? Jun 28, 2017 14:09

Tank Boy Ken: Aug 24, 2012; J4G for life; Fallen Rib

Dementropy posted:

Sad. Very sad.

# ? Jun 28, 2017 14:11

spacetoaster: Feb 10, 2014

I wonder if this guy is heading up the CITCON this year?

# ? Jun 28, 2017 14:11

Colostomy Bag: Jan 11, 2016; C-Bangin' it

Dementropy posted:

Has obey-the-fist chimed in on the loan debacle?

# ? Jun 28, 2017 14:12

big nipples big life: May 12, 2014

Dementropy posted:

lol

# ? Jun 28, 2017 14:12

Incitatus: Dec 16, 2005; The Meat Man was out of wings, Mr. William Ash More!

spacetoaster posted:

I wonder if this guy is heading up the CITCON this year?

Beet/Beer change my name to 'child fucktrophy'

# ? Jun 28, 2017 14:44

Danknificent: Nov 20, 2015; Jinkies! Looks like we've got a mystery on our hands.

and derek led his goon army to the gates of cig and derek smote crobos with the blog of truth

# ? Jun 28, 2017 14:54

Colostomy Bag: Jan 11, 2016; C-Bangin' it

I'm not a gently caress trophy. Just some faded blue participation ribbon.

# ? Jun 28, 2017 14:55

Jobbo_Fett: Mar 7, 2014; Slava Ukrayini; Clapping Larry

spacetoaster posted:

I wonder if this guy is heading up the CITCON this year?

It's not because of the bans, it's because of the bans.

:smuggo:

# ? Jun 28, 2017 14:55

Fil5000: Jun 23, 2003; HOLD ON GUYS I'M POSTING ABOUT INTERNET ROBOTS

Jobbo_Fett posted:

It's not because of the bans, it's because of the bans.

I'm not banned from driving, I just can't stop crashing my car so I don't drive - that way I keep my license!

# ? Jun 28, 2017 15:04

well HECK Phil: Feb 25, 2010; Toilet Rascal

AP posted:

https://twitter.com/BoredGamerUK/status/880005695814463488

I can only imagine thd type of guides he writes for SC. Possible examples:
-How to keep busy till Jesus patch
-How to maintain hype whilst managing delay disappointments
-The perfect SC body: In two weeks
-Tips to keep SC from crashing a lot

# ? Jun 28, 2017 15:04

spacetoaster: Feb 10, 2014

I want to point out that Lando is/was VP of the cool guy Atheist club.

# ? Jun 28, 2017 15:11

Taintrunner: Apr 10, 2017; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

spacetoaster posted:

I want to point out that Lando is/was VP of the cool guy Atheist club.

Whatever you say, Wulf "Accelerwraith" Knight, Mr. Magnum Malus Lupus of rear end

# ? Jun 28, 2017 15:13

Virtual Captain: Feb 20, 2017; Archive Priest of the Stimperial Order

Star Citizen Good, in all things forevermore. Amen.

Virtual Captain posted:

Even using the most charitable scoring system I could think of, which gives up to 30% progress on just for showing a something in a video. The entire project clocks in at 11% completed.

If it doesn't take too long. I think I can generate some cool progressbars for a separate page on https://starcitizentracker.github.io/

This is basically done. If anyone wants to improve the html/bootstrap that would be helpful. The relevant code is here on line 133 :grin:

The total appears on the main page like so:

Links to https://starcitizentracker.github.io/majorsystems/ which shows a breakdown of section. I feel it is generous to CIG but the zealots will scream regardless.

# ? Jun 28, 2017 15:18

Kellanved: Sep 7, 2009

You know, these people are disturbingly invested in the "game". When it all goes to poo poo detractors should be careful not to get knifed in the street.

# ? Jun 28, 2017 15:23