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Mr Interweb posted:Wait, how are we supposed to read that? The feminazi gloats, then she looks depressed, and THEN she looks at the dude with the waifu pillow? This is Red Panels we're talking about - every comic is a sad indictment of the authors worldview, intentionally or not. There's debate on whether he realizes this as he writes it.
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red panels is the only person with more own goals than the president.
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Groovelord Neato posted:red panels is the only person with more own goals than the president. I wonder if that's why he stopped. He had a moment of terrible realization and fled from his creation in terror.
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Jun 28, 2017 13:14
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Groovelord Neato posted:red panels is the only person with more own goals than the president. There are more?
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he has one where he says libs need to stop calling us nazis and the last panel is them putting libs in a concentration camp
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Jun 28, 2017 13:18
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Groovelord Neato posted:he has one where he says libs need to stop calling us nazis and the last panel is them putting libs in a concentration camp And his last comic is him doing a Hitler salute.
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it shaun posted:The thumbnail is like her previous "Taking the red pill?" title in that it's clearly pandering to the anti-fems for views, which is disappointing. The video itself is just a bunch of waffling of no real consequence. "Some people think this, some other people think this, let me know what you think in the comments!" Kinda boring. I'm pretty sure she's going to stay in this holding pattern forever. It's a good way to never commit and potentially please everyone, or at least not horribly piss off her new buddies while keeping moderates happy and continuing to feel aligned with feminism. Also a good way to be all "nothing I'm saying is controversial you're all just extremists if you don't like me!"
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NikkolasKing posted:Of course, I think it be perfectly fair to say the most popular Libertarian in American history is Ayn Rand. Say what you want about her (because it's all justified) but she was actually pro-choice from what I know. Uh, Rand had incredibly crazy things to say on the front of fairly basic feminist things like consent. Just read the Fountainhead. The idea that Libertarians are level-headed comes from listening to the 4.99 minutes before the crazy starts to come out of every orifice. In the experience I have with Libertarians, most would have been rep pillers if the philosophy was around back then. It attracts dregs, and dregs are looking for any reason why they are human failures besides themselves.
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rkajdi posted:Uh, Rand had incredibly crazy things to say on the front of fairly basic feminist things like consent. Just read the Fountainhead. The idea that Libertarians are level-headed comes from listening to the 4.99 minutes before the crazy starts to come out of every orifice. In the experience I have with Libertarians, most would have been rep pillers if the philosophy was around back then. It attracts dregs, and dregs are looking for any reason why they are human failures besides themselves. Is that the one where a man rapes a woman and the woman falls in love with him because he "takes what he wants" or something like that?
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aware of dog posted:Is that the one where a man rapes a woman and the woman falls in love with him because he "takes what he wants" or something like that? Got it in one.
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I liked the coy reference to Chris being a racist in the 2 genders video. Like, we know, it's good. You can't really defuse poo poo like that by getting out ahead of it if what you're sarcastically saying is 100% true.
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Jun 28, 2017 14:25
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Are we still talking about star wars because they zoom on to Ren's bleeding wound during the fight and he grunts and poo poo even punches it at one point to try to get his adrenaline up. I had this stupid rear end argument on the ride home from the theater. I'm compelled to have it even 8 pages later
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Deified Data posted:I liked the coy reference to Chris being a racist in the 2 genders video. Like, we know, it's good. You can't really defuse poo poo like that by getting out ahead of it if what you're sarcastically saying is 100% true. she's so dumb...the dude legit tweeted white genocide memes lol
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rkajdi posted:Uh, Rand had incredibly crazy things to say on the front of fairly basic feminist things like consent. Just read the Fountainhead. The idea that Libertarians are level-headed comes from listening to the 4.99 minutes before the crazy starts to come out of every orifice. In the experience I have with Libertarians, most would have been rep pillers if the philosophy was around back then. It attracts dregs, and dregs are looking for any reason why they are human failures besides themselves. I never said Rand was a feminist, although now I'm kind of curious about the Fountainhead. I'd be interested in knowing the exact context of that scene you mention. This idea of "making the girl want it" or even "I know that you want it" was not at all uncommon a few short decades ago. I saw it in Gone with the Wind (which was written by an actual feminist and its depiction of women was very progressive, even if its race stuff was not), Goldfinger and i think Rocky IIRC. (Adrian said no but Rocky said yes and then Adrian submitted.) As for Libertarians, it's a political ideology that says nothing but "I want small government." That says nothing about the individual's social policies. Libertarianism was founded by Far Leftists, not the perverse corporate shill Libertarian we have in America.
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it shaun posted:The thumbnail is like her previous "Taking the red pill?" title in that it's clearly pandering to the anti-fems for views, which is disappointing. The video itself is just a bunch of waffling of no real consequence. "Some people think this, some other people think this, let me know what you think in the comments!" Kinda boring. I noticed that on her twitter she's been asking her readers to give her definitions of things, like "ok fam, what do you think about the idea of patriarchy? Comment below!" I don't know if she's always done that or if she uses the responses in her videos, but based on that kind of discourse I would expect her videos to list slowly rightward as the harsh twitter character limit squeezes out all nuance until she's just "evaluating" responses in a way that points out that a 128-character definition of patriarchy seems vague or unbelievable, as compared to the frogmen chuds who post pithy denials like "there is no secret vault of grandfathers writing no-woman laws!" and so she has to give the point to the frogmen. I have no idea if it's deliberate or just naive, but it's troubling that she'd move to taking audience participation as research instead of reading books or finally going to school like she's been promising to do.
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business hammocks posted:"there is no secret vault of grandfathers writing no-woman laws!" https://twitter.com/PattyMurray/status/845001919034732544
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NikkolasKing posted:I never said Rand was a feminist, although now I'm kind of curious about the Fountainhead. I'd be interested in knowing the exact context of that scene you mention. This idea of "making the girl want it" or even "I know that you want it" was not at all uncommon a few short decades ago. I saw it in Gone with the Wind (which was written by an actual feminist and its depiction of women was very progressive, even if its race stuff was not), Goldfinger and i think Rocky IIRC. (Adrian said no but Rocky said yes and then Adrian submitted.) Media was also super rapey in the 80s and 90s too. That doesn't excuse it, especially since this is a work that's practically treated like a religious text by modern libertarians. The idea that a strong man just gets to take and it's fine because women secretly love it after the fact is still a cancer on our society, so the thought that libertarians absorb this into their psyche along with the rest of the toxic ideas from the book shouldn't be beyond the pale. quote:As for Libertarians, it's a political ideology that says nothing but "I want small government." That says nothing about the individual's social policies. Libertarianism was founded by Far Leftists, not the perverse corporate shill Libertarian we have in America. I'm talking about real libertarians, not the hypothetical ones who might exist in some Schrodinger's Political Box. Small state/no state philosophies always go right in the end, since the lack of a state just allows for King Assholes to set up camp. My experience from when I was in the Libertarian movement is that they are if anything more openly racist than the standard conservatives out there, owing to the fact that as a fringe movement they are a magnet for dregs and crazies. Molyneux is par for the course with them from my experience. I'm not the dude isn't pants on head bonkers, I'm saying that the whole libertarian movement is fringe and thus picks up all the detritus we're better off just not having in society.
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In America, "Small government left libertarians" are anarchists who either think anarchism means "burn everything down" or don't want to deal with the people who think that's what it means. They're pretty rare.
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I met a few of them visiting Montana, but yeah they're infrequent and fairly spread out. Usually people who got burned by society, left most of it behind, and just want to be left alone.
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Jun 28, 2017 17:22
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A shame Sargon took down his "debate" with Red Panels guy. It was an amazing trainwreck.
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Archer666 posted:A shame Sargon took down his "debate" with Red Panels guy. It was an amazing trainwreck. OH poo poo is there a mirror of this? was it actually entertaining trainwreck?
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Lightning Lord posted:In America, "Small government left libertarians" are anarchists who either think anarchism means "burn everything down" or don't want to deal with the people who think that's what it means. They're pretty rare. Yup, it's always been people too dumb to realize that anarchy is a right wing endgame, not a left wing one. And shocker, the people dumb enough to actually buy it are also fringe enough that the idea of burning everything down isn't crippling scary to them, again because they have nothing, are nothing, and accomplish nothing.
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libertarianism is just a dishonest defense of oligarchy.
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Terrible Opinions posted:I met a few of them visiting Montana, but yeah they're infrequent and fairly spread out. Usually people who got burned by society, left most of it behind, and just want to be left alone. Isn't that the profile for Randy Weaver or the Unibomber? I mean, the whole mountain person who wants to be crazy and alone in the wilderness doesn't exactly have a great ending profile for regular society.
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rkajdi posted:Isn't that the profile for Randy Weaver or the Unibomber? I mean, the whole mountain person who wants to be crazy and alone in the wilderness doesn't exactly have a great ending profile for regular society. Unabomber didn't want to be left alone, he wanted society to stop using technology.
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rkajdi posted:Yup, it's always been people too dumb to realize that anarchy is a right wing endgame, not a left wing one. What are you talking about.
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Avenging_Mikon posted:Unabomber didn't want to be left alone, he wanted society to stop using technology. He was a loser from society who went back into the hills and tried to ruin the real world because he couldn't hack it. Seems to line up with the "selectively leave society after it chews you up" profile pretty well.
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:And the Gulag he was thrown in was people in the public saying "That's tasteless." If I remember right he actually was really hurt by all the negative flak though, he wasn't actually some rear end in a top hat who hated women or whatever. Correct me if I'm wrong but I remember reading he was wearing a goofy shirt that his friends got him specifically as a joke to lightly rib him on and it was a stupid mistake to wear it on TV. He seemed really really socially awkward from the interview too so i could see him not getting what was going on. I don't know if I missed anything but he seemed genuinely sorry when he appeared literally crying and apologizing because he dumb choice of shirt overshadowed maybe the greatest personal achievement of his life
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Praseodymi posted:What are you talking about. Anarchy and small government leftism are mirages. As soon as the state steps back, King Assholes step in and that's the end of a leftist dream. The lack of government isn't some worker's paradise, it's Somalia. rkajdi fucked around with this message at 17:49 on Jun 28, 2017 |
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Al-Saqr posted:OH poo poo is there a mirror of this? was it actually entertaining trainwreck? I don't think so. I've tried searching for one and haven't found anything. Oh man, the debate itself was something else. Imagine 2 people talking past each other and getting increasingly angry at one another, for like 2 hours.
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rkajdi posted:Isn't that the profile for Randy Weaver or the Unibomber? I mean, the whole mountain person who wants to be crazy and alone in the wilderness doesn't exactly have a great ending profile for regular society.
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rkajdi posted:Anarchy and small government leftism are mirages. As soon as the state steps back, King Assholes step in and that's the end of an leftist dream. The lack of government isn't some worker's paradise, it's Somalia.
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Terrible Opinions posted:I wouldn't use Weaver as a counter point given that he only really interacted with society again because society reached out to him and killed a family member. two.
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rkajdi posted:He was a loser from society who went back into the hills and tried to ruin the real world because he couldn't hack it. Seems to line up with the "selectively leave society after it chews you up" profile pretty well. He's not the most famous psychopath to graduate from Harvard nor does he have the largest body count, but his is one of the few psychopaths actually created by Harvard.
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business hammocks posted:He's not the most famous psychopath to graduate from Harvard nor does he have the largest body count, but his is one of the few psychopaths actually created by Harvard. holy poo poo I just read up on him, holy gently caress Harvard is a trash institution.
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Terrible Opinions posted:It is but there are a lot of crazy mountain people and only a fairly small minority are violent. Most just want to be left alone. Also in general I wouldn't use Weaver as a counter point given that he only really interacted with society again because society reached out to him and killed a family member. Nah, I'm pretty sure a white supremacist gun hoarder is exactly the kind of crazy person I'm talking about. And people who look at society and think "Man, I need to live apart in the hills" aren't having a natural reaction, they're just a bunch of brokebrains.
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rkajdi posted:Yup, it's always been people too dumb to realize that anarchy is a right wing endgame, not a left wing one. And shocker, the people dumb enough to actually buy it are also fringe enough that the idea of burning everything down isn't crippling scary to them, again because they have nothing, are nothing, and accomplish nothing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YitdjMORoU https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rojava I've also heard good things about Catalonia while it was under anarchist rule. Really should read Orwell's book. And Noam Chomsky as a dumb right winger?
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NikkolasKing posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6YitdjMORoU Listened, and it was dumb as hell. minimalist states aren't going to able to protect people from other groups that develop actual working states instead. It's literally just trying to push the clock back to when we had less sovereign states. Those times tended to suck for a lot of reasons, and one of the big ones was without a vigorous state, there's way more chance that you run into a problem that your lovely micro-state just can't handle. It's also custom-designed for way more conflict and war, since one of the main points of strong states is to create a defensive deterrent against the guy next state over coming by to steal from/rape/kill/enslave you. Chomsky isn't a right-winger, but he doesn't come off as all that great a thinker on politics either. He's made some very important strides in linguistics, but like the New Atheists he doesn't realize that the knowledge he gets from that field doesn't make him a genius at everything else. Small state thoughts are great ideas if you either think people are somehow fundamentally good or are ready to hit the betray button on day one.
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rkajdi posted:Yup, it's always been people too dumb to realize that anarchy is a right wing endgame, not a left wing one. And shocker, the people dumb enough to actually buy it are also fringe enough that the idea of burning everything down isn't crippling scary to them, again because they have nothing, are nothing, and accomplish nothing. That's not what I said. My point was that "left libertarians" are anarchists who just don't call themselves that for various reasons.
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