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What is the best flav... you all know what this question is:
This poll is closed.
Labour 907 49.92%
Theresa May Team (Conservative) 48 2.64%
Liberal Democrats 31 1.71%
UKIP 13 0.72%
Plaid Cymru 25 1.38%
Green 22 1.21%
Scottish Socialist Party 12 0.66%
Scottish Conservative Party 1 0.06%
Scottish National Party 59 3.25%
Some Kind of Irish Unionist 4 0.22%
Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian 3 0.17%
Some Kind of Irish Nationalist 36 1.98%
Misc. Far Left Trots 35 1.93%
Misc. Far Right Fash 8 0.44%
Monster Raving Loony 49 2.70%
Space Navies Party 39 2.15%
Independent / Single Issue 2 0.11%
Can't Vote 188 10.35%
Won't Vote 8 0.44%
Spoiled Ballot 15 0.83%
Pissflaps 312 17.17%
Total: 1817 votes
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ultrabindu
Jan 28, 2009
https://twitter.com/LabSocialists/status/880010804204101632

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Teddybear
May 16, 2009

Look! A teddybear doll!
It's soooo cute!



What allegations? And when was that photo taken?

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid
whos Steve hedley

Borrovan
Aug 15, 2013

IT IS ME.
🧑‍💼
I AM THERESA MAY


Teddybear posted:

What allegations? And when was that photo taken?

Only good search result was Torygraph so I'll save you from giving them a hit. He's a union boss who was accused of domestic violence years ago. No charges were brought and an investigation by the Union cleared him. This came to light after a radio interview in which, in protest at being pressed for a yes/no answer to a misleading question about some employee's alleged drinking, he repeatedly asked the interviewer if he had stopped beating his wife, which is a terrible idea but actually kinda funny (fake edit: domestic violence isn't funny, pressing an interviewer with a leading and completely unsubstantiated question is).
Guilty even after proven innocent, I guess?

Real edit: looking at the Twitter thread there's criticism of how the investigation was handled, so there might be a lot more to it for all I know, but surely we as a country can't accept that it's okay to punish people without a tria-

BBC News posted:

  • More than half of those surveyed - 53% - would support detaining people indefinitely at the time of a suspected terrorist attack without putting them on trial. UK law restricts this to 14 days
  • Seven in 10 people believed that authorities should have the right to stop and search people if a terrorist attack is suspected. Currently, a police officer can only stop and search without "reasonable grounds" if a senior police officer has authorised it in advance
Oh.

Borrovan fucked around with this message at 18:43 on Jun 28, 2017

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

XMNN posted:

whos Steve hedley

An rear end in a top hat sprat being used to catch a jammy mackerel.

MrL_JaKiri
Sep 23, 2003

A bracing glass of carrot juice!
Just because no charges were brought and the union cleared him doesn't mean he doesn't do it; the problem with domestic and sexual assault is that there is frequently a real culture of secrecy and denial about it (see also: the SWP).

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Frankly I would love it if Corbyn can finally put the SWP out of its misery and crush it under its rapey hubris so its non-evil members can move to somewhere better.

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.
Sorry if this has been asked already - haven't been keeping up with the thread. Whenabouts is the vote on the queen's speech today? Haven't heard any breaking news on it yet so I'm guessing it's lateish?

Arsenic Lupin
Apr 12, 2012

This particularly rapid💨 unintelligible 😖patter💁 isn't generally heard🧏‍♂️, and if it is🤔, it doesn't matter💁.


MrL_JaKiri posted:

Just because no charges were brought and the union cleared him doesn't mean he doesn't do it; the problem with domestic and sexual assault is that there is frequently a real culture of secrecy and denial about it (see also: all powerful organizations everywhere).
FTFY.
From Fall of Unicorns thread:
How Lightspeed responded to Caldbeck's alleged behavior

quote:

When Stitch Fix founder Katrina Lake told Lightspeed Venture Partners, an early investor in her company, that (then) Lightspeed partner Justin Caldbeck had sexually harassed her, the firm asked her to sign a non-disparagement agreement. Not signing, a source suggests, could have endangered her entire company's future. So she signed, and remained silent about her experience.

In unrelated news, I wish I had the money to throw away on a U.S. Private Eye subscription.

EvilHawk
Sep 15, 2009

LIVARPOOL!

Klopp's 13pts clear thanks to video ref

ThomasPaine posted:

Sorry if this has been asked already - haven't been keeping up with the thread. Whenabouts is the vote on the queen's speech today? Haven't heard any breaking news on it yet so I'm guessing it's lateish?

Tomorrow. There's a vote on Labour's amendment tonight at 7ish.

kustomkarkommando
Oct 22, 2012

Amendment defeated 323 to 309

EvilHawk
Sep 15, 2009

LIVARPOOL!

Klopp's 13pts clear thanks to video ref

kustomkarkommando posted:

Amendment defeated 323 to 309

That's... not quite along party lines. Which is interesting.

kustomkarkommando
Oct 22, 2012

EvilHawk posted:

That's... not quite along party lines. Which is interesting.

Eh subtract 4 for the speaker and deputies and 7 for SF - that's only 7 people abstaining/not present

Combined Tory + DUP number is 327 so only four short there

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006

EvilHawk posted:

That's... not quite along party lines. Which is interesting.

Looks like 5 votes for from CON/DUP and 5 against from the rest, plus abstentions. Some sort of vote trading going on maybe?

EvilHawk
Sep 15, 2009

LIVARPOOL!

Klopp's 13pts clear thanks to video ref

kustomkarkommando posted:

Eh subtract 4 for the speaker and deputies and 7 for SF - that's only 7 people abstaining/not present

Combined Tory + DUP number is 327 so only four short there

Ah yeah I forgot about SF

spectralent
Oct 1, 2014

Me and the boys poppin' down to the shops
BBC still reporting the pay cap may be reviewed in time for the autumn budget, which should be fantastic if the Tories really are going to do a thing they just voted down.

Skinty McEdger
Mar 9, 2008

I have NEVER received the respect I deserve as the leader and founder of The Masterflock, the internet's largest and oldest Christopher Masterpiece fan group in all of history, and I DEMAND that changes. From now on, you will respect Skinty McEdger!

I thought the autumn budget had been scrapped this year?

sinky
Feb 22, 2011



Slippery Tilde

quote:

Hunt is pressing his point that Labour want to use the NHS “as a political football” and as a way to “milk votes”. He calls the “Conservative party the party of the NHS”.

Political party doing politics :eyepop:
also
:vd:

Irony Be My Shield
Jul 29, 2012

That's literally the only argument the Tories have left.

jabby
Oct 27, 2010

Julio Cruz posted:

Looks like 5 votes for from CON/DUP and 5 against from the rest, plus abstentions. Some sort of vote trading going on maybe?

Considering only 7 MPs can swing a vote to the opposition now, a rebellion of five over something as important as the Queens speech should probably worry May.

Junior G-man
Sep 15, 2004

Wrapped in a mystery, inside an enigma


Jeremy CHunt saying that the Tories are the NHS party is beyond laughable.

kustomkarkommando
Oct 22, 2012

All DUP voted against, Tory's where 313 against, so 317 take away two tellers and deputy speaker is 314 meaning a single abstentions/absences

Full attendance from the minor parties - labour at 256, minus 2 deputies and 2 tellers would put their Max at 258 so 2 abstentions/absences

By my scratch pad anyway

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.
Lol


https://twitter.com/gavinmuellerphd/status/880131080963182592

Are tories bad at counting or something?!?!

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


"Waaaahhh this political party is doing political things and it's not fair"

team overhead smash
Sep 2, 2006

Team-Forest-Tree-Dog:
Smashing your way into our hearts one skylight at a time


Basically some of the deceased will be ash and if someone happens to have disappeared the night of the fire, did they just disappear / wander off / go missing like lots of people do for a variety of reason or were they kipping on a mate's couch and got burnt to death without anyone known that's what happened.

Should be able to give an accurate estimate though.

kustomkarkommando
Oct 22, 2012


I kept saying a lot of this is gonna be dependent on coroners inquests to officially declare people dead

Seaside Loafer
Feb 7, 2012

Waiting for a train, I needed a shit. You won't bee-lieve what happened next

Al-Saqr posted:

Are tories bad at counting or something?!?!
No one knows who was in there at there time, maybe someone had a mate kipping on the sofa, maybe someone was squatting, maybe someone was subletting. Its not as easy as you think and lots of the dead will be just crumbling piles of ash mixed up with other peoples.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

The final confirmed World Trade Center death was in 2008. Tower fires are a real bitch to enumerate.

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006
The official death toll is only people confirmed to have died, which is fine, but there's been a noticeable lack of estimation or speculation on the part of the entire media.

Zeppelin Insanity
Oct 28, 2009

Wahnsinn
Einfach
Wahnsinn

team overhead smash posted:

Basically some of the deceased will be ash and if someone happens to have disappeared the night of the fire, did they just disappear / wander off / go missing like lots of people do for a variety of reason or were they kipping on a mate's couch and got burnt to death without anyone known that's what happened.

Should be able to give an accurate estimate though.

I don't know how accurate it is, but when I was listening to James O'Brien he talked about UK law being such that to count a person in the death toll, you must be able to name the particular dead person. If you see remains but don't know who exactly they are, you can't count them in the death toll.

Seaside Loafer
Feb 7, 2012

Waiting for a train, I needed a shit. You won't bee-lieve what happened next

Anyone else started getting UK focused emails of twitter 'moments' from Lowtax? Some funny piers morgan getting slagged off on that horrible morning show.

e: ohh I get it :)

Seaside Loafer fucked around with this message at 20:09 on Jun 28, 2017

TinTower
Apr 21, 2010

You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.
So one of the Labour MPs absent was Clive Lewis. Can't figure out the other one, must have missed them in the list.

A lot of the usual suspects (Woodcock, Mann, Hoey) fell in line.

Nuclearmonkee
Jun 10, 2009


Captain Fargle posted:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-40423052

Labour is going to force a vote today on an end to the public sector pay cap.

I don't know if it was missed but the end of that article is extremely good.

quote:

A Conservative spokesman said the country was "indebted" to the heroism of the police and emergency services, but Labour's proposed tax rises and higher borrowing would threaten investment in them.

We are indebted, but uhh I don't mean like with money. Thanks and good thoughts.

kustomkarkommando
Oct 22, 2012

TinTower posted:

So one of the Labour MPs absent was Clive Lewis. Can't figure out the other one, must have missed them in the list.

A lot of the usual suspects (Woodcock, Mann, Hoey) fell in line.

Other two abstentions seem seem to be David Ames (con) and George Howarth (lab) who were acting deputy speakers until this afternoon

Doesn't sound like he was paired then

serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

what.

TinTower posted:

So one of the Labour MPs absent was Clive Lewis. Can't figure out the other one, must have missed them in the list.

A lot of the usual suspects (Woodcock, Mann, Hoey) fell in line.

Was he paired to an absent tory?

waffle
May 12, 2001
HEH
https://twitter.com/georgeeaton/status/880142703358603264
God drat, I am sure that Corbyn didn't have this level of bants a year ago. Almost winning an election is a hell of a drug

Murderion
Oct 4, 2009

2019. New York is in ruins. The global economy is spiralling. Cyborgs rule over poisoned wastes.

The only time that's left is
FUN TIME

Nuclearmonkee posted:

I don't know if it was missed but the end of that article is extremely good.


We are indebted, but uhh I don't mean like with money. Thanks and good thoughts.

Well, there's been a 3% rise (post inflation even) in Thoughts and a consultation has been opened into making Prayers available at Difficult Times. That's not nothing. It feels like nothing, but it isn't!

Pissflaps
Oct 20, 2002

by VideoGames

serious gaylord posted:

Was he paired to an absent tory?

Maybe he had a headache?

TinTower
Apr 21, 2010

You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.
Just checked the vote list again: all MPs sworn in who did not vote are:

  • David Amess (temporary deputy speaker)
  • John Bercow (speaker)
  • George Howarth (temporary deputy speaker)
  • Lindsay Hoyle (deputy speaker)
  • Clive Lewis
  • Eleanor Laing (deputy speaker)
  • Rosie Winterton (deputy speaker)

In addition, Nik Dakin, Andrew Griffiths, Jeff Smith, and Heather Wheeler acted as tellers, who don't show up in division results.

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kustomkarkommando
Oct 22, 2012

I can't imagine lewis abstained on principle, might be out of the chamber cause of illness or something

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