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get that OUT of my face posted:3%er democrats ????
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Jun 28, 2017 16:50
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it should be "all of the above," but considering how they love to hand out suspensions for so much as a hacky "white genocide" joke, this makes sense. that vox article comparing fb and twitter to 4chan when it should be a moderated forum like here (yes, SA was the example he gave) is worth a read only 3% of democrats have a negative view of bernie sanders, hence my why i call them that. presumably many of them believe in interpreting harry potter like the bible
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Jun 28, 2017 18:09
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get that OUT of my face posted:it should be "all of the above," but considering how they love to hand out suspensions for so much as a hacky "white genocide" joke, this makes sense. that vox article comparing fb and twitter to 4chan when it should be a moderated forum like here (yes, SA was the example he gave) is worth a read it's because Facebook moderation policy uses an arcane formula that makes hate speech ok as long as you direct it towards a subgroup of a protected class instead of the whole thing https://www.propublica.org/article/facebook-hate-speech-censorship-internal-documents-algorithms it owns quote:The reason is that Facebook deletes curses, slurs, calls for violence and several other types of attacks only when they are directed at “protected categories”—based on race, sex, gender identity, religious affiliation, national origin, ethnicity, sexual orientation and serious disability/disease. It gives users broader latitude when they write about “subsets” of protected categories. White men are considered a group because both traits are protected, while female drivers and black children, like radicalized Muslims, are subsets, because one of their characteristics is not protected. race, gender, and nationality are protected but age and activity are not, and if one part of the statement is unprotected then the whole thing is. so like it'd be perfectly fine to post 8000 words about perfidious Jew bankers because banking is not a protected activity, but people have been censored for saying that white dudes are nuts the bitcoin of weed has issued a correction as of 18:30 on Jun 28, 2017 |
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Jun 28, 2017 18:26
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get that OUT of my face posted:only 3% of democrats have a negative view of bernie sanders, hence my why i call them that. presumably many of them believe in interpreting harry potter like the bible Seems like there's a new name for neolibs every month.
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Jun 28, 2017 18:32
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the bitcoin of weed posted:so like it'd be perfectly fine to post 8000 words about perfidious Jew bankers because banking is not a protected activity, but people have been censored for saying that white dudes are nuts  holy lol that poo poo is amazing. I wonder how up-to-date facebook's racist slang detection algorithms are. would they pick up old-timey slang like moon crickets or fetchits (from step and fetch it) or are they mostly calibrated around contemporary hate speech? see because crickets from the moon aren't a protect class so
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Jun 28, 2017 18:50
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Jun 28, 2017 18:56
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get that OUT of my face posted:it should be "all of the above," but considering how they love to hand out suspensions for so much as a hacky "white genocide" joke, this makes sense. that vox article comparing fb and twitter to 4chan when it should be a moderated forum like here (yes, SA was the example he gave) is worth a read Link to Vox article?
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Jun 28, 2017 19:11
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the bitcoin of weed posted:it's because Facebook moderation policy uses an arcane formula that makes hate speech ok as long as you direct it towards a subgroup of a protected class instead of the whole thing super sweet best pal posted:Seems like there's a new name for neolibs every month. for people who believe that their politics are "realistic" and "grown-up," neolibs are acting increasingly like whiny stubborn children. womens' rights advocates have gone on for a long time without resorting to cosplay Zeris posted:Link to Vox article?
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Jun 28, 2017 19:45
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Protesting to support reproductive rights is pretty good. As long as they don't get TERFy about it I don't see the problem.
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Jun 28, 2017 19:45
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Ruzihm posted:Protesting to support reproductive rights is pretty good. As long as they don't get TERFy about it I don't see the problem.
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Jun 28, 2017 19:48
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I mean it's fine but Handmaid's Tale sucks and "the resistance" sucks and this all doesn't matter. PP is working against single payer in CA despite how great it would be for womens health gently caress these people.
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Jun 28, 2017 19:49
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get that OUT of my face posted:the problem is that it requires the target of their protest to get what piece of pop culture they're referencing. if you go to a state capitol building cosplaying as a handmaiden, you're going to look stupid, which detracts from the message you're trying to convey. reproductive rights advocates have protested for decades without treating it like comiccon Your premise is right but I don't think I agree with your conclusion. I guess my perspective is that the outfits very obviously refer (via Handmaid's Tale) to puritans' outfits, so to me they work very well even without knowledge of a Handmaid's Tale. I think as long as they have signs or other chants that don't make sense without Handmaid's Tale knowledge, they're fine.
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Jun 28, 2017 19:56
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imo, the simpler the better
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Jun 28, 2017 20:08
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People take their politics as seriously as they take their television.
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Jun 28, 2017 20:11
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+Game of Thrones+A Handmaids Tale+DC/Marvel Cinematic Universe
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Jun 28, 2017 20:14
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game of thrones references only become as common on the internet as harry potter ones when there's a new season going on
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Jun 28, 2017 20:17
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get that OUT of my face posted:for people who believe that their politics are "realistic" and "grown-up," neolibs are acting increasingly like whiny stubborn children. womens' rights advocates have gone on for a long time without resorting to cosplay It was a stupid comedy bit, but it's one that has stuck with me. Sam Bee was cosplaying as if she was in the "The Man in the High Castle" universe after a Trump presidency, which included her witnessing George Takai getting kidnapped and her crying tears of joy upon seeing highlights of Hilary giving presidential speeches. Like...I had a grandmother that actually would tell me stories about what Nazi Germany was like. She'd tell me about how she'd see neighbors shot for refusing to turn over Jewish employees, and as it turns out (in a story that she would only tell her direct children) she was actually taken in and questioned by the nazi's because she knew english. (Her father moved to Germany before the nazis, from America of all things) I am completely disgusted when people try to put themselves on the cross with this sort of poo poo. You are not being oppressed. These people exist in privileged classes and very rarely have to worry about "actual" oppression. Do not get me wrong on this. "Oppression" is a problem in the USA, it just doesn't effect people who identify with the white Bourgeoisie version of "The Resistance".
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Jun 28, 2017 20:19
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I guess they should just play Xbox.
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Jun 28, 2017 20:23
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they could just actually get angry
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Jun 28, 2017 20:28
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taqueso posted:I guess they should just play Xbox.
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Jun 28, 2017 20:30
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FuzzySkinner posted:It was a stupid comedy bit, but it's one that has stuck with me. It comes across really bad with celebrities because there is no way Trump goes Full Hitler enough that you can't buy your way out of it
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Jun 28, 2017 20:33
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StashAugustine posted:It comes across really bad with celebrities because there is no way Trump goes Full Hitler enough that you can't buy your way out of it People like Bee and others in this hashtag movement can say whatever they want with little to no repercussions. The same cannot be said about people who live in deep red states or say, people protesting at standing rock. But those people do not exist to a lot of the dipshits cosplaying as the "oppressed". (Well they "do" but only in a manner when they're finger wagging at someone for "cultural appropriation". The culture of these people matter, but the people themselves? Well they're poo poo out of luck). It just reminds me of seeing Christians pretending that they were being oppressed for their beliefs because they had to bake a cake for a gay person. Naw dude. People are actually DYING for their faith in several countries. Get off the cross.
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Jun 28, 2017 20:51
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super sweet best pal posted:Seems like there's a new name for neolibs every month. they're like snakes like voldimert, slipping from one term to another trying to outrun their constituents realizing how lovely they are
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Jun 28, 2017 20:57
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Andrei Dorkovsky posted:they could just actually get angry That's the problem so many Americans are convinced anger doesn't have a place in politics that it should be about compromise and "common sense solution." Because Americans are loving dumb. It's like the picture from over of these #Resistence protests the guy had the sign that says "If Hiliary won, we'd be at brunch right now." And that's the loving problem
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Jun 28, 2017 21:02
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Ruzihm posted:Protesting to support reproductive rights is pretty good. As long as they don't get TERFy about it I don't see the problem. thats why at every rally to protest against injustice i cosplay as sean connery from zardoz
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Jun 28, 2017 21:10
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FuzzySkinner posted:It was a stupid comedy bit, but it's one that has stuck with me. KomradeX posted:That's the problem so many Americans are convinced anger doesn't have a place in politics that it should be about compromise and "common sense solution." Because Americans are loving dumb. get that OUT of my face has issued a correction as of 21:17 on Jun 28, 2017 |
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Jun 28, 2017 21:14
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get that OUT of my face posted:the problem is that it requires the target of their protest to get what piece of pop culture they're referencing. if you go to a state capitol building cosplaying as a handmaiden, you're going to look stupid, which detracts from the message you're trying to convey. reproductive rights advocates have protested for decades without treating it like comiccon as stupid as the anonymous masks are they at least get the point across. i haven't read the handmaiden's tale but from what these women are wearing to the protests I assume it's about selling honey sticks and baked goods out of a shack in pennsylvania?
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Jun 29, 2017 00:08
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Handmaid's Tale is super good. Peggy fuckin' rules in it, and it absolute depicts the logical endpoint of a conservative christian theocratic state. The fact we're even talking about these protests shows their attention-grabbing effectiveness, and the costumes directly relate to the issues they're confronting (versus harry potter the wizard boy). Plus it's fun to dress up. Why be dicks about it?
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Jun 29, 2017 00:18
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Trumps Baby Hands posted:Handmaid's Tale is super good. Peggy fuckin' rules in it, and it absolute depicts the logical endpoint of a conservative christian theocratic state. we're not talking about the protests, we're talking about how retarded these protesters look
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Jun 29, 2017 01:07
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Women protesting for increased access to healthcare, opportunities, etc are good. That's a sign of a (mostly) free society. They're "right" in doing so. Privileged "Woke" idiots cosplaying like they're in a dystopian novel/nazi germany is bad. get that OUT of my face posted:there's a major difference between sam bee and john oliver doing a stupid, unfunny sketch and people actually acting it out. granted, one hand washes the other Yeah and that is kinda my problem. It feeds into some unneeded hysteria while ignoring real problems people actually face.
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Jun 29, 2017 01:56
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KomradeX posted:That's the problem so many Americans are convinced anger doesn't have a place in politics that it should be about compromise and "common sense solution." Because Americans are loving dumb. It's like the picture from over of these #Resistence protests the guy had the sign that says "If Hiliary won, we'd be at brunch right now." And that's the loving problem
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Jun 29, 2017 03:39
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Almost everyone with the power and influence to have a national platform, like Sam Bee, almost certainly isnt oppressed by any realistic standard, so everything they do is kind of a hollow mockery of real activism because thats as close as they can get.
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Jun 29, 2017 04:05
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Trumps Baby Hands posted:Handmaid's Tale is super good. Peggy fuckin' rules in it, and it absolute depicts the logical endpoint of a conservative christian theocratic state. Handmaid's Tale themed protests are like Hamilton themed protests: the only people who will get the reference are those in demographics already saturated with anti-Trumpers.
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Jun 29, 2017 04:11
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Not a Step posted:Almost everyone with the power and influence to have a national platform, like Sam Bee, almost certainly isnt oppressed by any realistic standard, so everything they do is kind of a hollow mockery of real activism because thats as close as they can get. Isn't Sam Bee the one who successfully fought against racial integration for her own child's school?
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Jun 29, 2017 04:12
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Trumps Baby Hands posted:The fact we're even talking about these protests shows their attention-grabbing effectiveness Trumps Baby Hands posted:and the costumes directly relate to the issues they're confronting (versus harry potter the wizard boy). Trumps Baby Hands posted:Plus it's fun to dress up.
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Jun 29, 2017 04:13
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OXBALLS DOT COM posted:Handmaid's Tale themed protests are like Hamilton themed protests: the only people who will get the reference are those in demographics already saturated with anti-Trumpers. Yeah they need to bring it to a level that resonates with more people, like harry potter.
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Jun 29, 2017 04:14
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taqueso posted:Yeah they need to bring it to a level that resonates with more people, like harry potter. "The BLM protesters dressing up as Rainbow Dash made me look at what is actually happening within the black community, as a professor of African American studies I can't thank them enough"
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Jun 29, 2017 04:20
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dress up in a fursuit for animal rights
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OXBALLS DOT COM posted:Isn't Sam Bee the one who successfully fought against racial integration for her own child's school? not sure if it was successful, but she sure did fight against it
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