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Fox news just pushed a story about more teachers taking firearms training. I'm tired of this poo poo. I wanted to keep them on my phone News App to track them, but all it does is aggravate me. Pruned as gently caress.
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evilweasel posted:no they're describing single payer, but with choices, and without the government, and without taxes funding it, and without premiums really funding it, and you can make all the decisions instead of the government or insurance companies If they ever have to wait more than 20 minutes for a procedure, now matter how time-uncritical it may be, it's no good. And if some WELFARE QUEEN gets called back from the waiting room before then well loving strap in
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https://twitter.com/BenjySarlin/status/880137505412194308 this is some pretty good branding
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https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/880130715400142852 I've not researched this subject, can anyone confirm?
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Shifty Pony posted:This "let everyday people who would be affected by the laws write them!" sentiment is a very common and drives me nuts. Writing laws and rules is a skill just like everything else in life, and when the stakes get high enough you should go to a professional. This is literally why lobbyists and staffers write all legislation.
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Shifty Pony posted:This "let everyday people who would be affected by the laws write them!" sentiment is a very common and drives me nuts. Writing laws and rules is a skill just like everything else in life, and when the stakes get high enough you should go to a professional. I mean, there probably is a not minor overlap between these people and the ones who bring in items to the retail store that sold them and demand immediate repairs done by the poor cashier working customer service who they ran into first, because they "don't have time to send it out! You sold it, it's broken, fix it!" So that is at least consistent.
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Pleads posted:I just got a notice that my employer-provided coverage is going up 60%. Pretty sweet. My employer-provided coverage is going 60% as well (from $13 per pay to $19 per pay). Hopefully we can get some real healthcare reform in and head these increases off at the pass soon.
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evilweasel posted:https://twitter.com/BenjySarlin/status/880137505412194308 The DARVO health bill
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evilweasel posted:no they're describing single payer, but with choices, and without the government, and without taxes funding it, and without premiums really funding it Trump successfully convincing voters that, "we're going to make health care cheaper AND better for you, simultaneously, through magic or something," makes me question how much voters are really going to respond with, "Yeah, but how are you going to pay for it? I dunno, I'm not really onboard unless I have a good answer for that." They hear, "Better, cheaper health care" hammered home enough, and before long, the lack of details seems to matter less to them.
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Jun 28, 2017 19:58
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Chilichimp posted:Fox news just pushed a story about more teachers taking firearms training. Breitbart is more reliable for tracking anyway 
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Jun 28, 2017 19:59
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:CNN had a focus group of white women from Pennsylvania discussing the healthcare bill. They all came in saying that they were undecided about the bill. Doing some phone banking against the bill last night lent me some weak anecdotal confirmation of this. Pretty much the only time I decided to take a rhetorical that was in defense of the status-quo (stand up for access for millions of Americans, middle class, yadayada), I got someone saying "are you talking about keeping Obamacare? that's a joke." Attacking the Republican bill was way, way more successful.
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Jun 28, 2017 19:59
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farraday posted:https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/880130715400142852 GOP Response: Mary didn't need sperm to have Jesus 
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Jun 28, 2017 20:00
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Chilichimp posted:This is literally why lobbyists and staffers write all legislation. yeah, if you ever try reading legislation it is completely loving unreadable and no amateur could ever do it it's like "line 34 of section 23 of title 32 of the united states code is hereby modified to replace the phrase "; or" with "but not including"" etc etc etc, you cannot read it and have any loving clue what it does without spending an hour with a copy of the united states code, a pad of paper, and a team of lawyers
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Jun 28, 2017 20:02
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:GOP Response: Mary didn't need sperm to have Jesus Cassidy is GOP, that's him trying to explain how pregnancy should be optional coverage.
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:GOP Response: Mary didn't need sperm to have Jesus He only had to cuck Josef.
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farraday posted:Cassidy is GOP, that's him trying to explain how pregnancy should be optional coverage. The wording of that tweet makes it sound like he supports making it essential (pushing back against removing it from essential health benefits). Heck Yes! Loam! posted:GOP Response: Mary didn't need sperm to have Jesus If someone says this, I hope the immediately reply is that Jesus provided free health care to all comers. haveblue fucked around with this message at 20:07 on Jun 28, 2017 |
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Lightning Lord posted:Macron said something about the French missing the monarchy so maybe it is Considering what they did to their monarchs, maybe Trump should reconsider the trip.
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farraday posted:Cassidy is GOP, that's him trying to explain how pregnancy should be optional coverage. no, he's pushing back on the members of his caucus trying to do that he is pretty much the only person in the republican caucus who appears to have any moral qualms about what they're doing, as opposed to some posturing
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My other favorite quote from the CNN focus group:quote:We need doctors to set the prices instead of the insurance companies or the government. Not the most eye-rolling part of that entire segment, but the notion that doctors and surgeons are the ones that can determine optimal medical pricing for their work is probably depressingly widespread. I wonder how many people go around saying, "We need car salesmen to be more active in pricing our vehicles!" or "I wish my realtor got to decide how much I should be paying for my house."
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:My other favorite quote from the CNN focus group: This is almost exactly what Medicare does btw.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:My other favorite quote from the CNN focus group: Healthcare providers are the ones that set their prices though? Do they mean insurance premiums? They don't want insurance companies setting insurance premiums?
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:My other favorite quote from the CNN focus group: BTW neither party has any coherent plan to control medical costs. They aren't even trying.
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evilweasel posted:no, he's pushing back on the members of his caucus trying to do that I misunderstood then. Excerpted the line sort of fails to explain itself.
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Reik posted:Healthcare providers are the ones that set their prices though? Do they mean insurance premiums? They don't want insurance companies setting insurance premiums? Yes. They were convinced that the government and insurance companies were jacking up rates and doctors should decide what percentage of each procedure that the patients have to pay.
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Jun 28, 2017 20:10
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Reik posted:Healthcare providers are the ones that set their prices though? Do they mean insurance premiums? They don't want insurance companies setting insurance premiums? They just want a magic system that works and does everything, but that no one has to pay for either in premiums or taxes, where things are price controlled, but no one is in charge of doing it, that isn't run by insurance companies or the government They want something that works, and are just throwing buzzwords at the problem since they can't actually figure out how to address the problems or what causes them, they just know that problems exist
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Reik posted:Healthcare providers are the ones that set their prices though? Do they mean insurance premiums? They don't want insurance companies setting insurance premiums? they want the doctor to finish the last stitch, lick the tip of his pen and scrawl a receipt while they're laying on the examination table i think the response speaks more to the lack of clarity in healthcare costs, but since we have failed as a nation at not being loving morons and being able to use words it comes out as 'doctor set price plz'
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The Glumslinger posted:They just want a magic system that works and does everything, but that no one has to pay for either in premiums or taxes, where things are price controlled, but no one is in charge of doing it, that isn't run by insurance companies or the government They want a wizard to do it.
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haveblue posted:The wording of that tweet makes it sound like he supports making it essential (pushing back against removing it from essential health benefits). I read it the same way. GOP Response to your jesus Point: Jesus was a private healthcare provider, and the government taxxed him to death.
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Also, I almost felt bad for the Republican Party for a second because at the end of the focus group the CNN anchor was saying,quote:"And there you have it. This is a warning sign for Republicans in Congress in right now. These are the voters they need to reach in 2018 and they don't see their ideals anywhere in this healthcare debate."
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haveblue posted:A realistic down-to-earth health care program that's completely off-the-wall and swarming with magic robots. this made me chuckle, because the follow up is completely appropriate. THAT'S WHY YOU'RE STILL KIDS! BECAUSE YOU'RE STUPID!
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We should take a moment to applaud the protesters who have continued to fight today, even with the delay! We cannot be taken with our pants down again.
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evilweasel posted:https://twitter.com/BenjySarlin/status/880137505412194308 don't steal the name of my automotive porn series angus
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Covok posted:We should take a moment to applaud the protesters who have continued to fight today, even with the delay! We cannot be taken with our pants down again. is this an earth-2 trump tweet or something
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skylined! posted:is this an earth-2 trump tweet or something No, it was a response to this: skylined! posted:fyi these heros didn't just phone it in because the vote was delayed
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And furthermore, where's George Castanza?
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empty whippet box posted:And furthermore, where's George Castanza? Apparently Dan Gilbert was there for some completely random reason (aside from being a huge donor, I mean)
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^^ well at least there was SOME context what is even the context of bringing up a basketball team... in a baseball...
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farraday posted:https://twitter.com/daveweigel/status/880130715400142852 There's a winning slogan "A vote for Trump is a vote for Parthenogenesis!"
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Covok posted:No, it was a response to this: i'm just joshin ya bud you're absolutely right
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