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corn on the cop
Oct 12, 2012

Break what must be broken, once for all, that's all, and take the suffering on oneself.

― Corey Dostoyevsky
4 years, $4.35 AAV on Smith.

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The Dirty Burger
Aug 24, 2007

1st team all star
+
2nd degree manslaughter
=
3rd world clothing line

Zodijackylite posted:

Burmistrov and Grigorenko are both young UFAs, so either one of them would be cool to slot in below Hayes.

Vegas should really be all over those 2 and Yakupov. A team full of russian forwards would own, just for the Cherry segments

Kilza
Oct 4, 2013

corn on the cop posted:

4 years, $4.35 AAV on Smith.

https://twitter.com/TSNBobMcKenzie/status/880125366819540992

A bit more than the Kris Russell Special!

DJExile
Jun 28, 2007


Shawn Cotureier posted:

Hey FAS, Panotch is out at CSN. Is Carchidi the only hot take beat writer fuckboi left, or am I missing someone?

oh thank gently caress


yeah i think that only leaves Carchidi

Levitate
Sep 30, 2005

randy newman voice

YOU'VE GOT A LAFRENIÈRE IN ME
A little high but if he performs the way he did in a 2nd pairing role at the end of the year then that's fine

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)

Kilza posted:

https://twitter.com/TSNBobMcKenzie/status/880124215646724098

Looks like Brendan Smith is getting the Kris Russell Special.

Good job Jeff.

Skjei-Smith is a good pairing.

Marklar
Jul 24, 2003

Ball is Love
Ball is Life

Shawn Cotureier posted:

Hey FAS, Panotch is out at CSN. Is Carchidi the only hot take beat writer fuckboi left, or am I missing someone?

Thank gently caress.

Zodijackylite
Oct 18, 2005

hello bonjour, en francais we call the bread man l'homme de pain, because pain means bread and we're going to see a lot of pain this year and every nyrfan is looking forward to it and hey tony, can you wait until after my postgame interview to get on your phone? i thought you quit twitter...
This is a good signing. Skjei-Smith was a great pairing, or maybe Smith can play with McDonagh and a Skjei-DeAngelo pairing can take soft starts and score all the points.

Parker Lewis
Jan 4, 2006

Can't Lose


Pretty happy for 4 more years of Smith, he was a good pickup last year. Probably precludes a Shattenkirk signing, right?

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)
Mirtle apparently saying Holden is on the move. Between that and Klein possibly retiring, I'm feeling even better about the Smith contract.

corn on the cop
Oct 12, 2012

Break what must be broken, once for all, that's all, and take the suffering on oneself.

― Corey Dostoyevsky
https://twitter.com/SportsCentre/status/880130650975744001

why

DJExile
Jun 28, 2007


lmao sens

Levitate
Sep 30, 2005

randy newman voice

YOU'VE GOT A LAFRENIÈRE IN ME
Holden on the move isn't a bad idea, his value probably isn't gonna get any higher just going from stats . 11 goals 34 points can probably get someone to bite for a depth player or OK pick

Spring Break My Heart
Feb 15, 2012
:|

flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock


JawKnee
Mar 24, 2007





You'll take the ride to leave this town along that yellow line

haha

Zodijackylite
Oct 18, 2005

hello bonjour, en francais we call the bread man l'homme de pain, because pain means bread and we're going to see a lot of pain this year and every nyrfan is looking forward to it and hey tony, can you wait until after my postgame interview to get on your phone? i thought you quit twitter...

Levitate posted:

Holden on the move isn't a bad idea, his value probably isn't gonna get any higher just going from stats . 11 goals 34 points can probably get someone to bite for a depth player or OK pick

I'm gonna laugh my rear end off when he fetches a top six center and is heralded as a top four defenseman. He's good, but seems expendable given the cap situation and how the D is shaping up.

For maximum hilarity, Holden to the Avs and Emelin back to the Habs.

Darude - Adam Sandstorm
Aug 16, 2012

Hey it's only 1.75 million and 2 years too long!

The Dirty Burger
Aug 24, 2007

1st team all star
+
2nd degree manslaughter
=
3rd world clothing line

Zodijackylite posted:

This is a good signing. Skjei-Smith was a great pairing, or maybe Smith can play with McDonagh and a Skjei-DeAngelo pairing can take soft starts and score all the points.

I wonder how much AV is going to hate DeAngelo

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)

The Dirty Burger posted:

I wonder how much AV is going to hate DeAngelo

Honestly, with Ruff there now, I don't think it's up to him

ElwoodCuse
Jan 11, 2004

we're puttin' the band back together
Does Mike Condon get a day with the Stanley Cup? Those were 20 stellar minutes he played for the Penguins. 0.00, 1.000 sv!

Levitate
Sep 30, 2005

randy newman voice

YOU'VE GOT A LAFRENIÈRE IN ME

The Dirty Burger posted:

I wonder how much AV is going to hate DeAngelo

I think this is a situation where the GM is going to basically be saying "this guy has got to play don't gently caress him around"

Zodijackylite
Oct 18, 2005

hello bonjour, en francais we call the bread man l'homme de pain, because pain means bread and we're going to see a lot of pain this year and every nyrfan is looking forward to it and hey tony, can you wait until after my postgame interview to get on your phone? i thought you quit twitter...
I wonder how much of the problem with last year's defensive coaching was related to Beuk being a rookie NHL coach whose pro coaching experience was under another guy (Gernander) who was there due to nepotism. Same probably goes for Ulfie, though he had more experience coaching. Guys who got their jobs by being liked by the organization for a long time probably aren't going to make tough decisions to sit a guy like Girardi, even if it needs to be done.

Lindy Ruff has a bit more clout, having coached the fourth-most games in NHL history. He's also got a muuuuch better defense to work with, though.

Sharks Eat Bear
Dec 25, 2004


melnyk proving he's willing to bring out the checkbook when it really matters

Wonderllama
Mar 15, 2003

anyone wanna andreyfuck?

Levitate posted:

I think this is a situation where the GM is going to basically be saying "this guy has got to play don't gently caress him around"

as a fan of a different team, i really hope this is true.

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)

Wonderllama posted:

as a fan of a different team, i really hope this is true.

Same but when you guys sign Girardi

Levitate
Sep 30, 2005

randy newman voice

YOU'VE GOT A LAFRENIÈRE IN ME
I don't think Gorton will be like dictating icetime and deployment or something but I do think they just gave up a good center and backup for DeAngelo (and the pick) and I don't think they want him sitting in the press box. I think there's going to be a play him unless he is really terrible type of thing going on.

AV is weird, he sometimes gives certain guys a lot of trust and other guys not any. He actually gave Skjei a lot of trust and responsibility at times, though unfortunately fell back on vets at crunch time (arguable how much of that was Beuk and how much was AV)

Hopefully he gives DeAngelo the same amount of leeway he gave Skjei

e: also

https://twitter.com/andystrickland/status/880118164599840768

jesus

Suspicious
Apr 30, 2005
You know he's the villain, because he's got shifty eyes.

I thought players drafted by Vegas couldn't be traded back to their original team for a year.

JawKnee
Mar 24, 2007





You'll take the ride to leave this town along that yellow line
the Sbisa -> Habs, Emelin -> Nucks flip is going to happen I can feel it deep

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

Suspicious posted:

I thought players drafted by Vegas couldn't be traded back to their original team for a year.

That rule was apparently never in place for this draft.

Wonderllama
Mar 15, 2003

anyone wanna andreyfuck?

Matt Zerella posted:

Same but when you guys sign Girardi

Hahhaa ohhhhhhh....that joke made me sad.

Matt Zerella
Oct 7, 2002

Norris'es are back baby. It's good again. Awoouu (fox Howl)

Wonderllama posted:

Hahhaa ohhhhhhh....that joke made me sad.

:D :respek: :D

hifi
Jul 25, 2012

for all the bitching about tippett developing younger players deangelo was never really scratched, so i assume he'd be fine anywhere else

Stiev Awt
Mar 20, 2007


*to the tune of bad medicine*

We want all the BAD DEFENCEMEN
BAD DEFENCEMEN come play for me

Sharks Eat Bear
Dec 25, 2004

Suspicious posted:

I thought players drafted by Vegas couldn't be traded back to their original team for a year.


Aphrodite posted:

That rule was apparently never in place for this draft.

players that were traded to VGK before the expansion draft can't be traded back until January 2018, so e.g. MTL couldn't trade Drouin to TBL til midway through next season. but players that VGK selected in the expansion can be traded willy nilly

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

It's probably the Wikipedia page confusing people. It still says "Any players picked by Vegas cannot be traded back to their former team before January 1, 2018", but NHL.com never said anything about that.

Kilza
Oct 4, 2013

For reference, here's LeBrun saying that only players traded before the expansion draft can't be traded back to their original team until January 1:
https://twitter.com/PierreVLeBrun/status/879349501353439232
https://twitter.com/PierreVLeBrun/status/879349670295764992
https://twitter.com/PierreVLeBrun/status/879349814726725633

Zodijackylite
Oct 18, 2005

hello bonjour, en francais we call the bread man l'homme de pain, because pain means bread and we're going to see a lot of pain this year and every nyrfan is looking forward to it and hey tony, can you wait until after my postgame interview to get on your phone? i thought you quit twitter...

Levitate posted:

I don't think Gorton will be like dictating icetime and deployment or something but I do think they just gave up a good center and backup for DeAngelo (and the pick) and I don't think they want him sitting in the press box. I think there's going to be a play him unless he is really terrible type of thing going on.

AV is weird, he sometimes gives certain guys a lot of trust and other guys not any. He actually gave Skjei a lot of trust and responsibility at times, though unfortunately fell back on vets at crunch time (arguable how much of that was Beuk and how much was AV)

Hopefully he gives DeAngelo the same amount of leeway he gave Skjei

AV is probably the best coach for a young offensive specialist. He's going to get the softest minutes possible, probably not a ton at first, but minutes where he can score. He's also basically their only RH shot other than Zbad, so I don't know if AV is going to split them up on the PP, or put them both on the top unit.

Suspicious
Apr 30, 2005
You know he's the villain, because he's got shifty eyes.

Kilza posted:

For reference, here's LeBrun saying that only players traded before the expansion draft can't be traded back to their original team until January 1:
https://twitter.com/PierreVLeBrun/status/879349501353439232
https://twitter.com/PierreVLeBrun/status/879349670295764992
https://twitter.com/PierreVLeBrun/status/879349814726725633

I see.

Bergevin will trade Galchenyuk to get Emelin back.

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xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

NHL: "we got rules, but gently caress it, no one actually gives a poo poo."

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