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Chomp8645 posted:Allow me to introduce my companions! OK, OK, sounding good so far- what's the rest of your pitch for Hypothetical JRPG FirstAidKite posted:Shadow Hearts series. Ahh yeah it had that spinning thingy with a kinda risk-reward mechanic where you could try and land it in the teeny little Critical space for higher damage at the risk of completely whiffing Liked the weirdo characters in those games- favorite from 3 was either the giant talking cat that fought with drunken fist or the buffer/bard guy who was basically an unlicensed amalgamation of those Robert Rodriguez El Mariachi movies
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Monkey Fracas posted:After I finish P5 I'm definitely going to get past the opening area in SMT4 and play the rest of the game and then maybe even play SMT4A The opening of SMT4 owns but I do not blame anyone who bounced off of it. I wouldn't worry too much about not being caught up with what's going on in 4A, because of some weird nonsense most people who finished SMT4 aren't up to date with the events leading up to that game lol. But yea, 4A is better in literally every single way so it's might be worth skipping.
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there's only one rpg that made good use of statuses and stat buffs. i'm talking about pokemon and maybe earthbound but it's been a very long time
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FirstAidKite posted:What are some jrpgs where status effects actually mattered? Bravely Default and Second
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I've never used stat-boosting or stat-decreasing moves in Pokemon because I don't compete against other humans
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Snak posted:The last time I tried to talk poo poo about the FF7 remake, someone jumped down my throat for not being up to speed on all the cool stuff they were doing with it. Second paragraph is my thoughts
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I'm really not a JRPG fan but playing Tales of Berseria I was like "wooooah JRPGs can actually have fun gameplay, maybe I just hate turn-based poo poo" This is reinforced by the fact that I liked everything about Pokemon Sun and Moon except for the combat.
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I like how every single character in FF8 can be completely broken to do tons and tons of damage and that every system can be broken to let you do tons and tons of damage and that you can do silly things like obtaining the ultimate weapon for squall before the end of disc 1 or playing a surprisingly fun card game in order to get access to stuff you wouldn't normally have access to or just straight up turning off encounters since the game gets harder the higher your level is.
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When I was 10 I tried using a status effect once and it didn't work so I'm pretty sure they're useless in every game ever
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PantsBandit posted:I'm really not a JRPG fan but playing Tales of Berseria I was like "wooooah JRPGs can actually have fun gameplay, maybe I just hate turn-based poo poo" Don't let this take you down the path of playing a Star Ocean game though
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Not a JRPG, but Darkest Dungeon does status effects and buffs really well.
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PantsBandit posted:I'm really not a JRPG fan but playing Tales of Berseria I was like "wooooah JRPGs can actually have fun gameplay, maybe I just hate turn-based poo poo" Play Xenoblade Chronicles (the original, not XC X)
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corn in the bible posted:Golden Sun was bad Golden Sun is absolutely horrendous and it never fails to surprise(?) me when every few months there's a neogaf thread about "Golden Sun: a masterpiece" quite possibly the worst loving RPG story ever created, with some of the most braindead "puzzles" I've ever played
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I wouldn't suggest Xenoblade if what they wanted was fun combat....
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i like the thing in golden sun where you can read the npc thoughts
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Mak0rz posted:Play Xenoblade Chronicles (the original, not XC X) Play XC X as well.
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In Training posted:I got to world 4 and died QQ. I think arcade mode is just a teensy bit too long, especially if theres a full two worlds after 5 that I havent seen yet. Dude i lost on verteran to the supreme ai final boss. Lost all my powerups. Then He took 36 continues from me and i lost at the wire on the last life. Game over. He is so hard i basically has to scrub a whole continue if i didnt get the right subweapon. I said gently caress this is too hard. I juump into rookie and get ending credits after 1cc'ing like 4 worlds. No supreme ai fight in rookie... I was so mad. Supreme ai is my bitch now. Never playing on a harder difficulty though.
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DLC Inc posted:Golden Sun is absolutely horrendous and it never fails to surprise(?) me when every few months there's a neogaf thread about "Golden Sun: a masterpiece" I only ever completed that game once, I was super annoyed because I saved at a point that was a point of no return so I could only fight the final boss and complete the game or I could just restart the game if I wanted to try to complete it 100%. I don't remember anything about that game outside of the cool battle music though and that it was neat to be able to use your skills to manipulate parts of the environment. I always hear people complain about the amount of text, but what about the story itself and the puzzles were bad? I mean, like I said, I don't remember much so if you could fill me in that'd be cool 
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Going into space in FF8 was cool. Also it had the best ability in the entire series http://i.imgur.com/Sq9dO99.gifv
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Monkey Fracas posted:I remember thinking the rhythm-based button press attacks in Legend of Dragoon made the battles fun and engaging but I haven't played that game in years Mother 3 (Barkley's Shut Up and Jam Gaiden)
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chumbler posted:Play XC X as well. Yeah didn't mean to imply that it's bad. I just haven't played it and didn't want to recommend something I wasn't sure was good or not.
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XCX completely deserved the fate of releasing on a slowly dying console. At least WiiU getting shot behind the shed perhaps spared people from playing that poo poo.
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I heard they brought back Triple Triad for FF14, that would be the biggest incentive for me to go check it out
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:Going into space in FF8 was cool. Also it had the best ability in the entire series This is my favourite 
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FirstAidKite posted:What are some jrpgs where status effects actually mattered? Earthbound has some pretty darn useful ones. FF5, well, it still suffers from Final Fantasy mainstream series' biggest problem of being the series that introduced the idea of status ailments and death spells being pointless, but there are edge cases where that stuff suddenly becomes crazy useful and can be used to completely break bosses. You can look at the fiesta thread for some details. Help Im Alive posted:This is my favourite *miss*
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Jay Rust posted:I've never used stat-boosting or stat-decreasing moves in Pokemon because I don't compete against other humans  Monkey Fracas posted:Are there any other RPGs that have sorta turn-based combat with some manner of engagement beyond picking your moves and watching your characters do them and does it really help the battle system at all? Remember all of the Paper Mario games and all of the Mario+Luigi games being like this Undertale
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oddium posted:there's only one rpg that made good use of statuses and stat buffs. i'm talking about pokemon and maybe earthbound but it's been a very long time mother 3 was pretty big on buffs and debuffs, but never in normal encounters, at least until the part of the game where the boss fights start to get scripted
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:I heard they brought back Triple Triad for FF14, that would be the biggest incentive for me to go check it out holy poo poo they even kept the music lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSYqDJD4_M8
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:I heard they brought back Triple Triad for FF14, that would be the biggest incentive for me to go check it out Yes but it is an MMO so it isn't quite as simple as beating an opponent and taking their card. Each card has a rarity and you only have a chance of getting it after a win (think of it as a rare drop), and also you have to chase specific NPCs to get them and most of them are only available maybe ten minutes every two hours.
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FirstAidKite posted:I only ever completed that game once, I was super annoyed because I saved at a point that was a point of no return so I could only fight the final boss and complete the game or I could just restart the game if I wanted to try to complete it 100%. I don't remember anything about that game outside of the cool battle music though and that it was neat to be able to use your skills to manipulate parts of the environment. I always hear people complain about the amount of text, but what about the story itself and the puzzles were bad? I mean, like I said, I don't remember much so if you could fill me in that'd be cool Every single character is an exposition dumpster and nearly every part of the story is filled with moronic plotholes either due to bad writing or inconsistencies juxtaposed with the actual powers the game introduces. It happens constantly and by the end, the story pulls the worst poo poo ever by telling you that the bad guys are actually good and you've wasted your loving time doing all this menial work. Idk what about the puzzles or using your powers was neat, personally. It amounted to pushing loving rocks or pulling a thing 100 times over the course of the game. You have telekinetic powers and every puzzle amounts to pushing or pulling a thing. That's literally it.
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DLC Inc posted:Golden Sun is absolutely horrendous and it never fails to surprise(?) me when every few months there's a neogaf thread about "Golden Sun: a masterpiece" Someone in a previous chat thread posted about how it was "truly the best jrpg of all time" or something like that in this very year. Or maybe it was a chat thread on a different forum. Like, I can totally understand having nostalgia for it if you played it as a kid, but man is that not a good game. The absolute worst sin of the game is how the already incredibly slow and over-expositing dialogue is constantly interrupted by emoticons that take like 3 entire seconds to pop up. The only thing the game has going for it is that, for an early GBA Jrpg, it sure was pretty.
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Lurdiak posted:Someone in a previous chat thread posted about how it was "truly the best jrpg of all time" or something like that in this very year. Or maybe it was a chat thread on a different forum. Like, I can totally understand having nostalgia for it if you played it as a kid, but man is that not a good game. my favorite part of golden sun is where you need to cast water magic while in a tornado, except if you open the menu too late, the game disables inputs so it can kick you back to the world map
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The southpark game had good use of buffs and also an active combat system. I dont think i can sit through any more south park content personally even though all reports are that the grid combat system is done amazingly well.
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Help Im Alive posted:This is my favourite All of the strong attacks in FF8 are just so over the top. It's great. CharlieFoxtrot posted:I heard they brought back Triple Triad for FF14, that would be the biggest incentive for me to go check it out Didn't FF11 have Tetra Master? I'm glad they switched that garbage card game out.
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an actual dog posted:holy poo poo they even kept the music lol  I know what I'm doing when I get back to my gaming PC.
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:I heard they brought back Triple Triad for FF14, that would be the biggest incentive for me to go check it out Much like Gwent, I don't see how Triple Triad can work if it's balanced to be a multiplayer game. The whole fun of those games is gradually gaining an incredibly overpowered deck and crushing people. The White Dragon posted:my favorite part of golden sun is where you need to cast water magic while in a tornado, except if you open the menu too late, the game disables inputs so it can kick you back to the world map Mine is how its version of Mode 7 allowed it to make you fight enemies that were not only recolors, but also blown up to twice the size of the original enemy.
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Golden sun is dogshit the opening is like more meaningless text than my posts when i get off work itt. Like 50 bubbles from every character for an hour all saying inane poo poo i already know
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:
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I liked the Arena puzzle section from golden sun 2 because it's pretty neat as a puzzle thing. But I've been playing Wild Arms 3 and man that game does puzzle boss fights p well
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Lurdiak posted:Someone in a previous chat thread posted about how it was "truly the best jrpg of all time" or something like that in this very year. Or maybe it was a chat thread on a different forum. Like, I can totally understand having nostalgia for it if you played it as a kid, but man is that not a good game. I can understand how other people like games I don't like all the time but man, Golden Sun was truly extraordinary.I can't imagine playing a 30 to 40 hour JRPG with a poo poo-tier story, it's mainly why I couldn't finish a few FF games and XCX, and Golden Sun as a series deserves some kind of anti-Oscar for the script
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