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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Even if you lose the case on the merits, the law allows plaintiffs to make the defendant pay their legal fees and additional civil penalties if they can show that they did it to "disparage agriculture" or that it had the effect of hurting an agricultural business. where do you see this? Is it not this law? http://sdlegislature.gov/statutes/DisplayStatute.aspx?Statute=20-10A&Type=Statute
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Ol Standard Retard posted:^^ well at least there was SOME context He thought since the Warriors publicly decided not to show that they had booked the Cavs for a Whitehouse visit instead, is my explanation. He thinks any NBA team would ever want to see him is the funny part.
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Crow Jane posted:That'll never cease to amaze me. I'm acutely aware of the fact I live in a blue bubble, but honestly, what's to like? I keep trying to see the appeal and coming up with nothing He's an out of shape dumb bigot who says mean things because he's angry and scared of change. Now I've got some bad news for you about much of the US.....
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Even if you lose the case on the merits, the law allows plaintiffs to make the defendant pay their legal fees and additional civil penalties if they can show that they did it to "disparage agriculture" or that it had the effect of hurting an agricultural business. Jesus, how can you even field a test case against that kind of statute? That's loving insane.
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Josh Lyman posted:Then why do 100% of hospital bills seem outrageous? Probably late on this but being a nonprofit doesn't mean anything. I know one hospital in the state where I live that has about 300 million in liquid assets. They keep these assets in a separate foundation to keep them off of their main set of books in order to not deter potential donors who want to see how needy the organization they're giving to is. It would be difficult for anyone to get to that money, but one operation amassing that kind of wealth certainly isn't acting in the spirit of a nonprofit. Execs all get crazy bonuses and salaries too. E: also I meant to quote the guy you were quoting, aware you're probably agreeing with the point I'm trying to make. vaginite fucked around with this message at 21:10 on Jun 28, 2017 |
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Josh Lyman posted:Then why do 100% of hospital bills seem outrageous? To be fair, the NFL is non-profit, but the teams themselves very much are not
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haveblue posted:The wording of that tweet makes it sound like he supports making it essential (pushing back against removing it from essential health benefits). I've used this very argument in my FB with some of my idiot co workers. The responses were..... Interesting.
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If you want a solid cry or a brutal contrast with the America of 2017, then look at this video of what the President of the United States was doing exactly two years ago and try to imagine this happening with President Donald J. Trump. http://wapo.st/1LBbIdF
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:If you want a solid cry or a brutal contrast with the America of 2017, then look at this video of what the President of the United States was doing exactly two years ago and try to imagine this happening with President Donald J. Trump. Just the fact that someone as ignorant, incompetent and vile as Trump can get elected President will debase the office for the rest of the time it exists.
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Jun 28, 2017 21:18
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mcmagic posted:Just the fact that someone as ignorant, incompetent and vile as Trump can get elected President will debase the office for the rest of the time it exists. By those standards it was already debased a long time ago.
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Jaxyon posted:By those standards it was already debased a long time ago. This is a new low.
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mcmagic posted:Just the fact that someone as ignorant, incompetent and vile as Trump can get elected President will debase the office for the rest of the time it exists. You mean the thing the Bushes, Nixon, Reagan, Jackson and Wilson had but apparently didn't debase?
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In terms of straight disrespecting the office of President who would be second on the list assuming Trump is already at the top? Nixon?
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mcmagic posted:This is a new low. In terms of professionalism and demeanor, probably*. In terms of presidential evil, it's hard to do worse than literally owning and raping humans as chattel. *I mean, it's really loving hard to beat Jackson or Harrison's comatose body.
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So Collins, Heller and Paul seem a million miles away from supporting the bill at this point. And then you still have to deal with the other tea party crazies. I am cautiously optimistic.
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Jun 28, 2017 21:29
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Crabtree posted:You mean the thing the Bushes, Nixon, Reagan, Jackson and Wilson had but apparently didn't debase? He's more incompetent stupider and more vile than all of them. That doesn't mean he's a worse president, yet.
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Like at the end of the day, if the country is still around and is powerful, the world's gonna talk poo poo about America even if it becomes the most benevolent force on earth and gives everyone free money and prosperity. Trump wasn't going to change this, its just new context for anyone around the world to bring up. We could have a dog for 46 and they'd scratch his ears and go, "Look who isn't saying bad things about Mexicans - yes its you!"
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Crabtree posted:Like at the end of the day, if the country is still around and is powerful, the world's gonna talk poo poo about America even if it becomes the most benevolent force on earth and gives everyone free money and prosperity. Trump wasn't going to change this, its just new context for anyone around the world to bring up. We could have a dog for 46 and they'd scratch his ears and go, "Look who isn't saying bad things about Mexicans - yes its you!" So, you think all the poo poo talk is entirely unwarranted?
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Crabtree posted:Like at the end of the day, if the country is still around and is powerful, the world's gonna talk poo poo about America even if it becomes the most benevolent force on earth and gives everyone free money and prosperity. Trump wasn't going to change this, its just new context for anyone around the world to bring up. We could have a dog for 46 and they'd scratch his ears and go, "Look who isn't saying bad things about Mexicans - yes its you!" I strongly support the campaign of President Dog, particularly his strong stances on walks, which continue the campaign laid down by First Lady Michelle Obama to reduce childhood obesity.
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Crabtree posted:Like at the end of the day, if the country is still around and is powerful, the world's gonna talk poo poo about America even if it becomes the most benevolent force on earth and gives everyone free money and prosperity. Trump wasn't going to change this, its just new context for anyone around the world to bring up. We could have a dog for 46 and they'd scratch his ears and go, "Look who isn't saying bad things about Mexicans - yes its you!" As woke an opinion as "haters gonna hate" is, there's plenty of good sentiment towards America, much of it earned, much of it not, around the world. Obama was GREAT for our image. Trump confirms all of the world's worst fears. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7APmRkatEU
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Crabtree posted:Like at the end of the day, if the country is still around and is powerful, the world's gonna talk poo poo about America even if it becomes the most benevolent force on earth and gives everyone free money and prosperity. Trump wasn't going to change this, its just new context for anyone around the world to bring up. We could have a dog for 46 and they'd scratch his ears and go, "Look who isn't saying bad things about Mexicans - yes its you!" If a country's population can elect someone like Trump President that signals to the rest of the world that that population is completely untrustworthy, unstable and unreliable and that will change the way countries deal with us forever, even if the next few presidents are nothing like Trump.
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Mind_Taker posted:In terms of straight disrespecting the office of President who would be second on the list assuming Trump is already at the top? Nixon? The dude who sexually assaulted an intern in the oval office has gotta be up there
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Quorum posted:I strongly support the campaign of President Dog, particularly his strong stances on walks, which continue the campaign laid down by First Lady Michelle Obama to reduce childhood obesity. President V. Goodboy 2020
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:So Collins, Heller and Paul seem a million miles away from supporting the bill at this point. And then you still have to deal with the other tea party crazies.
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FizFashizzle posted:Can we talk about trump going to Paris after the G20 summit because it doesn't make any sense at all. I like to think he's been assured that his visit will be only exposed to supporters and dignitaries, and at some point he'll be faced with hundreds of thousands of protesters jeering him and Marcon shrugging it off as "free speech". Probably not, but who knows, it's not like Macron has to pretend they're best buds.
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evilweasel posted:yeah, if you ever try reading legislation it is completely loving unreadable and no amateur could ever do it Rules and Regulations on the other hand tend to be very easy to read and understand.
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stillvisions posted:I like to think he's been assured that his visit will be only exposed to supporters and dignitaries, and at some point he'll be faced with hundreds of thousands of protesters jeering him and Marcon shrugging it off as "free speech". Probably not, but who knows, it's not like Macron has to pretend they're best buds. Macron: if you get back on board with the Paris Agreement we'll rebrand the Eiffel Tower as Trump Tower Paris and the Arc de Triomphe as the Arc de Trump. Trump: ok that sounds tremendous.
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stillvisions posted:I like to think he's been assured that his visit will be only exposed to supporters and dignitaries, and at some point he'll be faced with hundreds of thousands of protesters jeering him and Marcon shrugging it off as "free speech". Probably not, but who knows, it's not like Macron has to pretend they're best buds. It's heartwarming to remember that Trump is statistically more likely to run into a Guillotine in France than anywhere else. And they have a history of rudely awakening nepotistic despots.
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lol even morning joe is mocking trump over the time cover https://twitter.com/JoeNBC/status/880165816125325312
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awesmoe posted:The dude who sexually assaulted an intern in the oval office has gotta be up there Except that for most of the world it was a consensual encounter between two adults and really none of our loving business.
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the monica thing was sleezy as hell but it was consensual there's definitely power dynamics at issue which is part of why it was sleezy as hell but those pale in comparison to pussy-grabber-in-chief
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awesmoe posted:The dude who sexually assaulted an intern in the oval office has gotta be up there You don't know a lot of presidential history, do you?
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Shifty Pony posted:Rules and Regulations on the other hand tend to be very easy to read and understand. I don't really know a lot about American law books. But in Germany the laws are written in an extremely obtuse and unreadable, but ridiculously exact way. Like all the complicated text has to be added, in order to clarify the exact statement and tighten loopholes so much, that not even a jinn could slip through. In a way it's actually quite beautiful. But as a mathematician, I am rather fond of exact statements which define a well ordered system. I've always assumed it worked similarly with your laws. But then again, it's also easy to hide obscene abuses in such texts.
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I'm not saying he's number one worst president ever, but the question was "disrespect the office of the president" and using the figurative office to procure sex and the literal office to perform it in is disrespectful. thats without getting into the capital p problematic power issues between an intern and the president of the united states
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Skippy Granola posted:So, you think all the poo poo talk is entirely unwarranted? No, any nation who isn't powerful suffers from those who are on top. Its why we won the American Revolution in the first place, everyone loving hated England when they were on top and for mostly justifiable reasons.Trump is a nightmare, but I'm also remembering back when people said poo poo about Dubya and the horror stories people gave about Reagan era goosestepping that would make Trump look like its nothing if only because of how good they were at being evil and victorious. Depending on what he does he'll either just be an embarrassment and murderer of people in his own country or outside of it depending on he actually succeeds in dragging us into another war or escalating the War on Terror. Obama sure as poo poo didn't stop the drone strikes of civilians but people seem to love him now especially when Trump's at the helm.
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