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What is the best flav... you all know what this question is:
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Labour 907 49.92%
Theresa May Team (Conservative) 48 2.64%
Liberal Democrats 31 1.71%
UKIP 13 0.72%
Plaid Cymru 25 1.38%
Green 22 1.21%
Scottish Socialist Party 12 0.66%
Scottish Conservative Party 1 0.06%
Scottish National Party 59 3.25%
Some Kind of Irish Unionist 4 0.22%
Alliance / Irish Nonsectarian 3 0.17%
Some Kind of Irish Nationalist 36 1.98%
Misc. Far Left Trots 35 1.93%
Misc. Far Right Fash 8 0.44%
Monster Raving Loony 49 2.70%
Space Navies Party 39 2.15%
Independent / Single Issue 2 0.11%
Can't Vote 188 10.35%
Won't Vote 8 0.44%
Spoiled Ballot 15 0.83%
Pissflaps 312 17.17%
Total: 1817 votes
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Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Pissflaps posted:

Maybe he had a headache?

Migraines are far more serious than headaches and as a pedant you should know this.

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Pissflaps
Oct 20, 2002

by VideoGames

Miftan posted:

Migraines are far more serious than headaches and as a pedant you should know this.

Is a migraine the reason being given for his absence?

Murderion
Oct 4, 2009

2019. New York is in ruins. The global economy is spiralling. Cyborgs rule over poisoned wastes.

The only time that's left is
FUN TIME

Miftan posted:

Migraines are far more serious than headaches and as a pedant you should know this.

He's not a pedant, he's a hair-splitter.

TinTower
Apr 21, 2010

You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.
Yeah, it's almost definitely certain that something came up.

Mind you, MPs sometimes get accidentally waylaid. Just ask Michael Gove about the time he lost his first vote as Chief Whip by getting locked in the toilets.

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

My god flaps, every time I think you're on top of your game you outdo yourself at being unbearable. I don't think a reason was given yet.

Apologies to the thread in general for replying to flaps. I can't stop myself sometimes. :smith:

Pissflaps
Oct 20, 2002

by VideoGames
Until they give a reason I'll stick with headache/migraine.

TinTower
Apr 21, 2010

You don't have to 8e a good person to 8e a hero.
Apparently, Lewis had to delay his honeymoon because of the election.

Fair play, lad, but you should have really waited until the recess before jetting off.

JFairfax
Oct 23, 2008

by FactsAreUseless
The Government’s austerity policy descended into chaos today as Downing Street suggested it was ready to abandon a 1 per cent cap on public sector pay rises, only to insist hours later that the cap remained in place.

The “U-turn on a U-turn” was blamed on the ongoing “war” between Theresa May and Philip Hammond, after the Treasury reportedly demanded a retraction of the announcement. It led to speculation that the Chancellor had been intending to claim credit for the policy change at his next budget.

Three Cabinet ministers appeared to have been briefed that the pay cap was coming to an end as they openly talked about the need to consider lifting it, and Sir Oliver Letwin, the influential backbench MP, even went into detail about how taxes would have to be increased to fund it.

Number 10 then backed up their comments in a lunchtime briefing by saying it was ready to “listen” to voters who had made it clear they were “weary” of the spending squeeze. A spokesman added that ministers were “working through” the recommendations of independent pay review bodies and that a decision would be taken at a future budget.

But just three hours later Downing Street was desperately trying to put the genie back in the bottle by saying that “the policy has not changed”. The Treasury then confirmed that Government policy was for the pay cap - imposed by George Osborne in 2012 - to remain until 2020.

John McDonnell, the shadow chancellor, described the confusion as a “shambles”, adding: “This war between Number 10 and the Treasury isn’t sustainable.”

Tim Farron, the outgoing Liberal Democrat leader, said: “The Tories are in utter chaos. They have U-turned on their own U-turn within the space of a few hours.”

Sir Oliver Letwin, one of the architects of austerity as David Cameron’s minister for policy, set the ball rolling by saying on Radio 4’s Today programme that taxes should go up to pay for more spending on “crucial” public services.


He said: “It may well be, in one way or another, a large number of people will have to pay a little more tax if we are going to maintain the trend towards reduced deficits and yet spend a little more on the crucial public services that do need more spent on them.

“Those of us who are lucky enough to have higher incomes will have to bear more one way or another the costs of any increase in public service expenditure.”

Chris Grayling, the Transport Secretary, echoed his comments by saying that “in the wake of the general election we are going to have to think through what we do come the next budget”.

LOL

As Lord Buckethead predicted, it is a poo poo show.

And that's from the Telegraph


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/06/28/tory-austerity-policy-chaos-number-10-does-u-turn-u-turn-public/

mehall
Aug 27, 2010


Dear Theresa May,

If the economy is so strong, why do we still have a deficit, and why isn't there more money in the pot from the strong economy to increase public sector wages? Sirely any money public sector staff receive goes back into the economy?
Is it because your husband is busy taking money that should be taxed out to lovely little scenic havens all around the world?

Yrs, Mehall.

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009

mehall posted:

Dear Theresa May,

If the economy is so strong, why do we still have a deficit, and why isn't there more money in the pot from the strong economy to increase public sector wages? Sirely any money public sector staff receive goes back into the economy?
Is it because your husband is busy taking money that should be taxed out to lovely little scenic havens all around the world?

Yrs, Mehall.

Dear mehall,

thank you for your enquiry.
Firstly, let me be very clear by saying that the last labour government

jabby
Oct 27, 2010

Jon Snow is accused of chanting "gently caress the Tories" at Glastonbury.

Magic.

winegums
Dec 21, 2012


It'd be awful if a political commentator was left-wing. We need political neutrality in broadcast journalism

*drops stack of photos of Kuenssberg, Paxman, Davies*

winegums fucked around with this message at 21:08 on Jun 28, 2017

kustomkarkommando
Oct 22, 2012

Quite optimistic the NI abortion amendment will be selected tomorrow, there's been good persistent noise in the commons about it and its raked up 100+ signatures so it seems well placed for a division

Still wouldn't hold my breath over it passing though interestingly the DUP have said they do not see this is as a devolved issue and its purely a matter for the English NHS which could spell some interesting triangulation

JFairfax
Oct 23, 2008

by FactsAreUseless

jabby posted:

Jon Snow is accused of chanting "gently caress the Tories" at Glastonbury.

Magic.

HAha good lad

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



JFairfax posted:

Tim Farron, the outgoing Liberal Democrat leader, said: “The Tories are in utter chaos. They have U-turned on their own U-turn within the space of a few hours.”

Imagine being such a catastrophic fuckup that Timothy James Farron, on June 28th in This Year of Our Lord Two Thousand and Seventeen, manages to brutally dunk all over you :laffo:

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

Mister Adequate posted:

Imagine being such a catastrophic fuckup that Timothy James Farron, on June 28th in This Year of Our Lord Two Thousand and Seventeen, manages to brutally dunk all over you :laffo:

Farron's Undead Legion still landing the hits.

Deltasquid
Apr 10, 2013

awww...
you guys made me ink!


THUNDERDOME

jabby posted:

Jon Snow is accused of chanting "gently caress the Tories" at Glastonbury.

Magic.

I'm not a Brit nor a regular UKMT poster, and I just popped in to lurk, and I have to say I am severely disappointed this wasn't a joke about the Game of Thrones character.

Mr. Nemo
Feb 4, 2016

I wish I had a sister like my big strong Daddy :(

jabby posted:

Jon Snow is accused of chanting "gently caress the Tories" at Glastonbury.

Magic.

Oh, I thought this was going to be a Game of Thrones. I'll take it though.

Edit: goddamit

Lord of the Llamas
Jul 9, 2002

EULER'VE TO SEE IT VENN SOMEONE CALLS IT THE WRONG THING AND PROVOKES MY WRATH
So basically the Tories have ensured that tomorrow all the papers will have headlines talking about how they voted to block ending the public sector pay freeze. Of course the irony is that the more Labour lead in the polls the more Tory MPs are scared of another election which means this shambles continues making Labour even more popular. It'll have to snap sooner or later though.

learnincurve
May 15, 2014

Smoosh

Deltasquid posted:

I'm not a Brit nor a regular UKMT poster, and I just popped in to lurk, and I have to say I am severely disappointed this wasn't a joke about the Game of Thrones character.

I have thing for you then...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_OaoEyEApk

communism bitch
Apr 24, 2009

Deltasquid posted:

I'm not a Brit nor a regular UKMT poster, and I just popped in to lurk, and I have to say I am severely disappointed this wasn't a joke about the Game of Thrones character.

People on twitter were saying that guy was at glastonbury, shitfaced, and singing a somg about corbyn.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


TinTower posted:

Apparently, Lewis had to delay his honeymoon because of the election.

Fair play, lad, but you should have really waited until the recess before jetting off.

Yeah, it does seem a bit off missing a vote as important as this. I get that perhaps the missus has a job where she could only get off at this exact time rather than during recess, but still, it's a bit disappointing. Especially when you've got other MPs coming in to vote 2 days after having surgery. Ultimately his one vote wasn't the difference maker but still. Poor timing to say the least.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

forkboy84 posted:

Yeah, it does seem a bit off missing a vote as important as this. I get that perhaps the missus has a job where she could only get off at this exact time rather than during recess, but still, it's a bit disappointing. Especially when you've got other MPs coming in to vote 2 days after having surgery. Ultimately his one vote wasn't the difference maker but still. Poor timing to say the least.

Given that attending this vote would have been noting but beneficial given his politics, and given how important it was, it seems safe to assume that something serious came up.

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006
This is Clive "burn neoliberalism not people" Lewis we're talking about, he certainly wouldn't peace out of this vote just because he didn't feel like walking over to the chamber.

Borrovan
Aug 15, 2013

IT IS ME.
🧑‍💼
I AM THERESA MAY


jabby posted:

Jon Snow is accused of chanting "gently caress the Tories" at Glastonbury.

Magic.
Today's Channel 4 News was a fun watch (apart from the very sad Grenfell & Hillsborough stuff).

Tory shill [in the process of getting EVISCERATED by Labour activists]: "Not everybody hates the Tories as much as you do, Jon".
Jon Snow: "You can say that, but that is a very unpleasant thing to have done." [end interview]

e: Also, Graun coverage was better:

Graun posted:

It demonstrates, though, the seriousness of Snow’s commitment to neutrality, and I’m sure that he did not chant anything rude, in public, about the Conservative party. Unless he was drunk.

Borrovan fucked around with this message at 21:40 on Jun 28, 2017

Captain Fargle
Feb 16, 2011

Lord of the Llamas posted:

So basically the Tories have ensured that tomorrow all the papers will have headlines talking about how they voted to block ending the public sector pay freeze. Of course the irony is that the more Labour lead in the polls the more Tory MPs are scared of another election which means this shambles continues making Labour even more popular. It'll have to snap sooner or later though.

Or talking about how Number 10 is in a feud with the Treasury.

Marenghi
Oct 16, 2008

Don't trust the liberals,
they will betray you
Anyone watching this yoke in BBC where landlords move into their tenants gaff. Some guy buying houses and turning them into HMOs. Has tenants support him and his girlfriends lifestyle of vacationing the world.

She moved out after one night saying he should experience on his own as the tenant is single.

Place is crawling with rats. England is really reverting to the Victorian era.

TomViolence
Feb 19, 2013

PLEASE ASK ABOUT MY 80,000 WORD WALLACE AND GROMIT SLASH FICTION. PLEASE.

Jon Snow seems a good lad, and like our Jezza he spent some of his youth campaigning against apartheid and volunteering abroad. Also came close to shooting Idi Amin at one point, though as a Scotsman I don't know how I feel about the prospect of an Englishman killing our king.

Adam Vegas
Apr 14, 2013



Marenghi posted:

Anyone watching this yoke in BBC where landlords move into their tenants gaff. Some guy buying houses and turning them into HMOs. Has tenants support him and his girlfriends lifestyle of vacationing the world.

She moved out after one night saying he should experience on his own as the tenant is single.

Place is crawling with rats. England is really reverting to the Victorian era.

Had to stop watching that show because it was making me unreasonably angry. Worth seeing, though.

jabby
Oct 27, 2010

Lord of the Llamas posted:

So basically the Tories have ensured that tomorrow all the papers will have headlines talking about how they voted to block ending the public sector pay freeze. Of course the irony is that the more Labour lead in the polls the more Tory MPs are scared of another election which means this shambles continues making Labour even more popular. It'll have to snap sooner or later though.

All the papers tomorrow are leading with Hillsborough.

Iymarra
Oct 4, 2010




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Marenghi posted:

Anyone watching this yoke in BBC where landlords move into their tenants gaff. Some guy buying houses and turning them into HMOs. Has tenants support him and his girlfriends lifestyle of vacationing the world.

She moved out after one night saying he should experience on his own as the tenant is single.

Place is crawling with rats. England is really reverting to the Victorian era.

That's disgusting. When I was landlord (yes, true) the place was kept decent. Mind you, it was managed by Reeds Rains (no comment..) on my behalf. Requests for maintenance from the tenants were granted and I was fair. Didn't put prices up or anything. Hell, the only problem I had was when a tenant moved out and left the place a poo poo hole. Had to pay to get it professionally cleaned for sale.

Gort
Aug 18, 2003

Good day what ho cup of tea
I'm hopeful that the obvious parallels between Hillsborough and Grenfell get drawn and the truth of Grenfell doesn't take 30 years to come out.

Borrovan
Aug 15, 2013

IT IS ME.
🧑‍💼
I AM THERESA MAY


jabby posted:

All the papers tomorrow are leading with Hillsborough.

Can't wait to see the Sun run a front page headline: "WE'RE SORRY"

Pissflaps
Oct 20, 2002

by VideoGames

Innerguard posted:

That's disgusting. When I was landlord

*record scratch*

Nuclearmonkee
Jun 10, 2009


Pissflaps posted:

*record scratch*

*tugs on rope hanging from lamp post*

:hai:

Borrovan
Aug 15, 2013

IT IS ME.
🧑‍💼
I AM THERESA MAY


Pissflaps posted:

*record scratch*
When I was (very briefly) a landlord, I had to keep asking the tenants if they were absolutely sure they didn't have a legal cause of action against me since I'd managed to extort an indemnity from the vendor, who had somehow forgotten that the tenants existed when selling. They did not :(

Lobster God
Nov 5, 2008

Innerguard posted:

That's disgusting. When I was landlord (yes, true) the place was kept decent. Mind you, it was managed by Reeds Rains (no comment..) on my behalf. Requests for maintenance from the tenants were granted and I was fair. Didn't put prices up or anything. Hell, the only problem I had was when a tenant moved out and left the place a poo poo hole. Had to pay to get it professionally cleaned for sale.

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Sapozhnik
Jan 2, 2005

Nap Ghost

Julio Cruz posted:

This is Clive "burn neoliberalism not people" Lewis we're talking about, he certainly wouldn't peace out of this vote just because he didn't feel like walking over to the chamber.

Yeah that tweet was ace

Somebody itt made a post along the lines of "Owen Smith said on the night of the election that he wishes they could bottle whatever stuff Jeremy Corbyn is made out of... I'm beginning to think Clive Lewis might be Subject Zero" and it gave me a hearty chuckle

e:

jabby posted:

Remember when Owen Smith said he wished they could bottle whatever Corbyn had so they could drink it?

Clive Lewis is Test Subject One.

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006

Pissflaps posted:

*record scratch*

That's not a record scratch, that's the sound of a blade being sharpened.

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willie_dee
Jun 21, 2010
I obtain sexual gratification from observing people being inflicted with violent head injuries

Gort posted:

I'm hopeful that the obvious parallels between Hillsborough and Grenfell get drawn and the truth of Grenfell doesn't take 30 years to come out.

All the Tories on my Facebook are claiming that Labour were in charge when the cladding was put on and inspections were cut, is this the case?

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