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CrazySalamander posted:I'm having a brain fart staring at the Trump graph. What makes it wrong aside from the white out? Was medicaid scheduled to skyrocket or is the graph indicative of funds being shifted or what? Because I believe 538 over Trump when it comes to whether or not there's medicaid cuts. I can't tell whether the graph is a complete lie Trump pulled out of his rear end or if it's a misleading data trick. Can someone clear it up for me? Here is an article that puts the graph into context for you. https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/6/28/15890750/trump-medicaid-chart-fix Basically, spending goes up under the BCRA plan, but not nearly as much as it would under the ACA. Since the current law is the ACA, the BCRA is a cut to medicaid spending since the amount spent is going down from what it would have been.
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tetrapyloctomy posted:Jesus loving Christ. "to make them scream racism and sexism and xenophobia." Jesus loving christ Jesus loving christ Jesus loving christ It is literally now, "I will accuse the people that disagree with me of my own worst actions. In triplicate" clenched fist of AAAaaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAhhhhAAAhhhRRGH gently caress ALL. KickerOfMice fucked around with this message at 04:28 on Jun 29, 2017 |
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Gun manufactures like it when theres a Dem in the White House so the NRA has gotta be sweating. 
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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:https://twitter.com/poniewozik/status/880248398921838594 Life needs to get its own schtick soon because art has got to be getting ready to sue
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CrazySalamander posted:I'm having a brain fart staring at the Trump graph. What makes it wrong aside from the white out? Was medicaid scheduled to skyrocket or is the graph indicative of funds being shifted or what? Because I believe 538 over Trump when it comes to whether or not there's medicaid cuts. I can't tell whether the graph is a complete lie Trump pulled out of his rear end or if it's a misleading data trick. Can someone clear it up for me? Beaten
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Jun 29, 2017 04:26
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These are my people. South jersey represent.
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https://twitter.com/burgessev/status/880264013342486528 capuito and portman have gotten their bribes, not sure who wanted the HSAs
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Inspector Hound posted:Life needs to get its own schtick soon because art has got to be getting ready to sue Truth has always been stranger than fiction, but reality is mocking us openly at this point.
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evilweasel posted:https://twitter.com/burgessev/status/880264013342486528 The pretend libertarian?
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Jun 29, 2017 04:59
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CNN is going to ensure that Trump gets another term. Nice job, guys!
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HSAs are pretty much the perfect Libertarian solution: a tax shelter for rich people who can already afford to pay non-covered expenses out of pocket, woefully inadequate for everyone else, a double gently caress-you to the poor who can't afford to have them, and a fig leaf to blame all the failures and bad outcomes on a nationwide lack of moral fiber and dearth of personal responsibility.
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business hammocks posted:It hasn't happened any of the hundreds of times a white male boomer has enacted the violent fantasies of talk radio, cable news, freep, or strormfront. For some reason he's always mentally ill and needed help. Hell The Oregon Stupid from 2015Q4 to 2016Q1 had a jury null. LOL White people can't be trusted to vote for anything.
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VitalSigns posted:HSAs are pretty much the perfect Libertarian solution: a tax shelter for rich people who can already afford to pay non-covered expenses out of pocket, woefully inadequate for everyone else, a double gently caress-you to the poor who can't afford to have them, and a fig leaf to blame all the failures and bad outcomes on a nationwide lack of moral fiber and dearth of personal responsibility. Couldn't have said it better myself. Except I'd use gently caress and poo poo a lot more.
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evilweasel posted:https://twitter.com/burgessev/status/880264013342486528 Does this mean they might be able to pass this?
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CDHiggs posted:CNN is going to ensure that Trump gets another term. Nice job, guys! That's a weird way to spell a failing education system.
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This is really cool. https://www.facebook.com/NRA/videos/1605896562755373/
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Covok posted:Does this mean they might be able to pass this? If you're genuinely surprised by this, well...poo poo, maybe politics just aren't the right venue for you, my sweet innocent summer child.
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CDHiggs posted:CNN is going to ensure that Trump gets another term. Nice job, guys! What?
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VitalSigns posted:HSAs are pretty much the perfect Libertarian solution: a tax shelter for rich people who can already afford to pay non-covered expenses out of pocket, woefully inadequate for everyone else, a double gently caress-you to the poor who can't afford to have them, and a fig leaf to blame all the failures and bad outcomes on a nationwide lack of moral fiber and dearth of personal responsibility. Also remember that the benefit increases as your tax bracket does. If your top tax rate is 39.6% your HSA gives you more than twice the benefit per dollar put in as someone whose top tax rate is 15%.
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CDHiggs posted:CNN is going to ensure that Trump gets another term. Nice job, guys!  
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A GIANT PARSNIP posted:Also remember that the benefit increases as your tax bracket does. If your top tax rate is 39.6% your HSA gives you more than twice the benefit per dollar put in as someone whose top tax rate is 15%. Yeah that's why it's a double gently caress-you to the poor: they can't afford to save much and what they scrape together qualifies for the least amount of benefit E: really a triple gently caress-you because once that money is in an HSA they can't spend it on other necessities, whereas richer people have the flexibility to take advantage of restricted-use tax shelters.
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Covok posted:Does this mean they might be able to pass this? I don't think either Capuito or Portman were really in question. In fact I think most people suspected opiod funding wasn't originally included for exactly this kind of bullshit kabuki. Collins, Cruz, and Lee are the ones to watch.
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Edible Hat posted:What? CNN ran a story saying one of Trump's advisors was being investigated by the Senate as a part of their Russia probe when he actually wasn't. They retracted the story and three people resigned over it, and now Fox and their allies in Right Wing Media are running up and down the halls banging on the pots and pans about how CNN has obliterated its credibility forever and should just shut down... because reasons. And now garbage websites like Mediaite are flooding their front pages with Fox signal boosting about how CNN has destroyed journalism and Donald Trump has won the media forever because they said one guy was maybe being investigated and then went "no, sorry he actually isn't, our bad".
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Coca Koala posted:Here is an article that puts the graph into context for you. Trying going into ANY large corporation and telling them that making less money isn't losing money and see how fast they'll kick your rear end to the curb. gently caress I was a cashier at Toys R Us for years and they drilled this lesson into my head Covok posted:Does this mean they might be able to pass this?
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business hammocks posted:Did we mention this loving insane NRA ad that all but calls for the murder of protestors? Holy gently caress. That was a Two Minutes Hate.
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VitalSigns posted:HSAs are pretty much the perfect Libertarian solution: a tax shelter for rich people who can already afford to pay non-covered expenses out of pocket, woefully inadequate for everyone else, a double gently caress-you to the poor who can't afford to have them, and a fig leaf to blame all the failures and bad outcomes on a nationwide lack of moral fiber and dearth of personal responsibility. It's also a long con, because it gives a false perception of control and choice. Until you have to come to terms with the fact that oh poo poo, this is a lot of appointments and medical care for a whole family, and then you have to start making real tough decisions.
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I read his book and I think he's running.
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nine-gear crow posted:CNN ran a story saying one of Trump's advisors was being investigated by the Senate as a part of their Russia probe when he actually wasn't. They retracted the story and three people resigned over it, and now Fox and their allies in Right Wing Media are running up and down the halls banging on the pots and pans about how CNN has obliterated its credibility forever and should just shut down... because reasons. Running and then retracting that story was the most evil, horrible crime that has ever been committed and everyone who has ever been part of, watched or even heard the name of CNN should be arrested and executed for highest treason, so sayeth rightwing media and facebook posts right now.
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I've learned more about American healthcare by listening to the two last vox weeds podcasts than ever before.
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Smol posted:I've learned more about American healthcare by listening to the two last vox weeds podcasts than ever before. I honestly like Vox a lot. They try to convey complex issues in a way that is understandable to the average Sometimes they err a bit on the side of simplicity, and they're not entirely bereft of bias, but they try.
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empty whippet box posted:Running and then retracting that story was the most evil, horrible crime that has ever been committed and everyone who has ever been part of, watched or even heard the name of CNN should be arrested and executed for highest treason, so sayeth rightwing media and facebook posts right now. Did Fox make an outright fabricated graph about it?
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The phoney graph budget got used up on fake Medicaid graphs.
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empty whippet box posted:Running and then retracting that story was the most evil, horrible crime that has ever been committed and everyone who has ever been part of, watched or even heard the name of CNN should be arrested and executed for highest treason, so sayeth rightwing media and facebook posts right now. Breitbart, Fox, Rush and etc. havent ever retracted anything and therefore are upstanding, reliable sources of information 
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OddObserver posted:The pretend libertarian? I dunno saying one thing and then doing another is about as for-realsy libertarian as you can get
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A GIANT PARSNIP posted:Also remember that the benefit increases as your tax bracket does. If your top tax rate is 39.6% your HSA gives you more than twice the benefit per dollar put in as someone whose top tax rate is 15%. Just one more way for Republicans to push the idea of a Flat Tax
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