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LordNat
May 16, 2009

Deltasquid posted:

To be quite honest, rangers does imply some sort of ranged ability. Not swords lol

rang·er
ˈrānjər/Submit
noun
noun: ranger; plural noun: rangers
"A soldier in the U.S. Army who has special training especially in fighting at close range."

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Iymarra
Oct 4, 2010




Survived AGDQ 2018 Awful Games block!
Grimey Drawer
Photobooth stuff comes from Eurogamer. One of their guys had a sit down with Jake Solomon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpLcPIWqK18

I just want to know if Long War 2 will be compatible or if they'll work it in someway. Seems like a waste of official support of Pavonis if they were just going to make all that stuff invalid by an official expansion not too long after release of said mod-overhaul.

Zomborgon
Feb 19, 2014

I don't even want to see what happens if you gain CHIM outside of a pre-coded system.

LordNat posted:

rang·er
ˈrānjər/Submit
noun
noun: ranger; plural noun: rangers
"A soldier in the U.S. Army who has special training especially in fighting at close range."

That is an incredibly specific and bad definition.

Also, close-quarters combat can mean up to 100m in range, which is basically just up to Squadsight in game terms.

JohnnyOso
Oct 9, 2007

a more refined age

Zomborgon posted:

That is an incredibly specific and bad definition.

Also, close-quarters combat can mean up to 100m in range, which is basically just up to Squadsight in game terms.

...But that's a pretty good description of XCOM 2 Rangers, compared to the other classes.

Bremen
Jul 20, 2006

Our God..... is an awesome God
I don't see the problem with "Shinobi" myself. They're a stealthy class that uses a sword, and calling them "Ninjas" would make me think the developers were about ten years old.

Coolguye
Jul 6, 2011

Required by his programming!
there are a lot of words you could have used for it that carried no overt ethnic implications at all

saboteur
infiltrator
spy
assassin
agent

i'm sure there are others

any of these would have made goons happier

me personally i dgaf but that's the argument you're gonna get

monster on a stick
Apr 29, 2013

Coolguye posted:

there are a lot of words you could have used for it that carried no overt ethnic implications at all

saboteur
infiltrator
spy
assassin
agent

i'm sure there are others

any of these would have made goons happier

me personally i dgaf but that's the argument you're gonna get

Commando, but only if throwing a grenade/setting off the X4 charges results in the voice line "I got a present for ya!"

Back Hack
Jan 17, 2010


Scout, I would have just called them Scouts. :effort:

Bremen
Jul 20, 2006

Our God..... is an awesome God

monster on a stick posted:

Commando, but only if throwing a grenade/setting off the X4 charges results in the voice line "I got a present for ya!"

Doesn't really fit the sword focus, but I definitely think the new Reaper class seems like Commando might have been a better fit. They probably wanted something "cool" sounding, though.

Edit: Well, I guess Reaper is both the class and the faction, and Commandos wouldn't fit so well as a faction name.

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

The answer is to give park rangers katanas.

Vib Rib
Jul 23, 2007

God damn this shit is
fuckin' re-dic-a-liss

🍖🍖😛🍖🍖
"Scout" would've been really good. Shinobi is dumb and doesn't fit with any other class name; it's definitely the odd one out. Also it doesn't match its class icon, which looks like it was made for something more like "commando" in the first place.

Bremen posted:

I don't see the problem with "Shinobi" myself.
A+ avatar/post combo.

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

Shinobi's dumb and Scout's better but insecure nerds keep harping on about it because they're afraid girls will find out they used to watch DBZ

monster on a stick
Apr 29, 2013
Naruto class. Make it happen, Pavonis.

Or a Pokemon class where the perk at each level is choosing which pokemon. Pikachu or Dragonrite? :ohdear:



EDIT: VVV - found the weeaboo

monster on a stick fucked around with this message at 23:01 on Jun 28, 2017

Bogart
Apr 12, 2010

by VideoGames
Yep! When I edited LW2 to try and make it fun (failed, by the way. Took like two weeks. Good God) I turned Shinobi into Scout.

e: it is spelled DRAGONITE you uncultured swine

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

monster on a stick posted:

EDIT: VVV - found the weeaboo

How dare you, I'm right here

Annointed
Mar 2, 2013

monster on a stick posted:

EDIT: VVV - found the weeaboo

Sounds like someone had a Pokemon deficient childhood.

Deltasquid
Apr 10, 2013

awww...
you guys made me ink!


THUNDERDOME

LordNat posted:

rang·er
ˈrānjər/Submit
noun
noun: ranger; plural noun: rangers
"A soldier in the U.S. Army who has special training especially in fighting at close range."

Well I'll be damned, I thought US army rangers were trained for long-distance scouting and harrassment since the civil war or something.

monster on a stick
Apr 29, 2013
Close range? :stare:

Count Uvula
Dec 20, 2011

---

If a US Army Ranger touches you they can absorb your body through the point of contact. Their advanced training also allows them to dislocate their limbs and rubberize their bones freely which they can use to cram themselves in to small air vents, allowing them to close the distance in urban environments.

Suspicious
Apr 30, 2005
You know he's the villain, because he's got shifty eyes.
Aragorn was a ranger and he would gently caress up orcs with a sword.

marshmallow creep
Dec 10, 2008

I've been sitting here for 5 mins trying to think of a joke to make but I just realised the animators of Mass Effect already did it for me

"Google posted:

rang·er
[...]
a mounted soldier.

Get on it, Jake!

Fangz
Jul 5, 2007

Oh I see! This must be the Bad Opinion Zone!
Rangers are depicted in Shadow of Mordor.

upgunned shitpost
Jan 21, 2015

Rangers are actually small pick-up trucks, but also faceless, at the same time.

Mr.Pibbleton
Feb 3, 2006

Aleuts rock, chummer.

jfood posted:

Rangers are actually small pick-up trucks, but also faceless, at the same time.

Pick-up trucks are faceless and the faceless were able to assume human shape logically they're transformers which are SPARK units, therefore the Shen's last gift DLC had recruitable advent forces in it.

winterwerefox
Apr 23, 2010

The next movie better not make me shave anything :(

Long War 2 Perk Pack talk. When the gently caress would I ever use the Ranger's Commisar ability? Yes. I want to execute my solder for getting mind controlled. Mod that poo poo to lightning hands.

Also I seem to be getting bugs were Gunners and Sharpshooters forget how to use pistols from time to time.

Bremen
Jul 20, 2006

Our God..... is an awesome God

winterwerefox posted:

Long War 2 Perk Pack talk. When the gently caress would I ever use the Ranger's Commisar ability? Yes. I want to execute my solder for getting mind controlled. Mod that poo poo to lightning hands.

Also I seem to be getting bugs were Gunners and Sharpshooters forget how to use pistols from time to time.

I think it's mostly a joke, though I guess it might actually be usable in the final level. You don't lose anything for it IIRC, since the LW perk pack gives multiple abilities at squaddie.

Moola
Aug 16, 2006
I think the word you're looking for is SPACE RANGER

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

Moola posted:

I think the word you're looking for is SPAAAAAAAAAACE RANGEEEEEEEER

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

Innerguard posted:

Photobooth stuff comes from Eurogamer. One of their guys had a sit down with Jake Solomon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpLcPIWqK18

I just want to know if Long War 2 will be compatible or if they'll work it in someway. Seems like a waste of official support of Pavonis if they were just going to make all that stuff invalid by an official expansion not too long after release of said mod-overhaul.

Second Wave options! :woop:

Fuzz
Jun 2, 2003

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Dunno if this was posted, but this dude has a drat expansive single stop rundown of everything in the expansion:

https://youtu.be/CpLcPIWqK18

I didn't give a poo poo after the trailer, but now I'm hype as gently caress. Why would Firaxis gently caress up a trailer that badly? I mean, jesus... It basically makes Long War pointless, it's kinda hilarious.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

Fuzz posted:

Dunno if this was posted, but this dude has a drat expansive single stop rundown of everything in the expansion:

https://youtu.be/CpLcPIWqK18

I didn't give a poo poo after the trailer, but now I'm hype as gently caress. Why would Firaxis gently caress up a trailer that badly? I mean, jesus... It basically makes Long War pointless, it's kinda hilarious.

:cripes:

It's on this page, and I even quoted it right above your post.

BexGu
Jan 9, 2004

This fucking day....
Let me know when some one puts it in a read-able article. I really don't want to sit through another youtube video.

Ramadu
Aug 25, 2004

2015 NFL MVP


BexGu posted:

Let me know when some one puts it in a read-able article. I really don't want to sit through another youtube video.

Yeah this. This trend towards video only content is loving miserable. I get that it's how they sell ads but it's getting intolerable and I'm already ad blocking them anyway.

Zore
Sep 21, 2010
willfully illiterate, aggressively miserable sourpuss whose sole raison d’etre is to put other people down for liking the wrong things
I mean like 99% of the stuff in that video has been talked about extensively in the thread since the reveal.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

Ramadu posted:

Yeah this. This trend towards video only content is loving miserable. I get that it's how they sell ads but it's getting intolerable and I'm already ad blocking them anyway.

I definitely agree. That video has some neat nuggets in it, but you can just listen to it since it just repeats the same video clips for 20 minutes.

Here's what I gleaned that was new:
- Photobooth pictures can appear plastered on walls as pro-XCOM propaganda posters. They also can be shared world wide. Bonded soldiers can have special poses in these pictures.
- Fear of Mutons is a shaken quirk
- The new psychic dudes can make an additional move after a successful attack
- The new half-alien allies can become Alien Rulers and make additional moves, and can cause an alien unit to ally with you.
- Second Wave Options! One of them doubles the mission timers. The other announced one was "Beta Strike" which increases hit points for both XCOM and the aliens.
- Certain missions have additional modifiers and are scaled to match, such as only 3 soldiers max, or everyone gets the new rifle allies shadow ability.
- Dark event "Lost World" where a horde of lost show up on every mission.

RBA Starblade
Apr 28, 2008

Going Home.

Games Idiot Court Jester

gently caress yeah Second Wave. Give me those random troops.

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

RBA Starblade posted:

gently caress yeah Second Wave. Give me those random troops.

:same: they only mentioned the two I posted so far though.

Zore
Sep 21, 2010
willfully illiterate, aggressively miserable sourpuss whose sole raison d’etre is to put other people down for liking the wrong things
I don't think you could do random perks in XCOM 2. Waaaay too many if them are tied to a single class' secondary weapon. Like half the Ranger tree is sword stuff. And a good 75% of the Specialist and Sharpshooter perks rely entirely on their equipment. Plus it wouldn't do anything for the 3 new classes, SPARKs or PsiOps and that's the majority of classes in the game.

The new AWC with the 3 random perks is probably as close as we'll get. And as the Reaper preview showed they're willing to put poo poo like Squadsight in there so :shrug:

Zore fucked around with this message at 15:36 on Jun 29, 2017

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit
Oh yeah, I forgot to mention apparently your soldiers can't bond with sparks per that video :smith:

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Jabor
Jul 16, 2010

#1 Loser at SpaceChem
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