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Schlesische
Jul 4, 2012

Rotten Cookies posted:

https://twitter.com/StapeNewsday/status/880423426288230400

:psyboom:

What the gently caress? What was that Isles offer again....?

Duchene's going to Vegas for Sbisa, Emelin and a 3rd rounder.

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Darude - Adam Sandstorm
Aug 16, 2012

Rotten Cookies posted:

https://twitter.com/StapeNewsday/status/880423426288230400

:psyboom:

What the gently caress? What was that Isles offer again....?

They have two RD making a lot of money. They're probably looking for LD.

ThinkTank
Oct 23, 2007

Darude - Adam Sandstorm posted:

They have two RD making a lot of money. They're probably looking for LD.

They have two defencemen under contract at the moment. I don't think they can be picky about handedness. It's not like they're going to be a hot stop for free agents.

Hand Knit
Oct 24, 2005

Beer Loses more than a game Sunday ...
We lost our Captain, our Teammate, our Friend Kelly Calabro...
Rest in Peace my friend you will be greatly missed..

https://twitter.com/JeffMarek/status/880424322397024257

He's before my time, but there has always been a soft spot in my heart for people like him and Gino Odjick.

Darude - Adam Sandstorm
Aug 16, 2012

ThinkTank posted:

They have two defencemen under contract at the moment. I don't think they can be picky about handedness. It's not like they're going to be a hot stop for free agents.

I don't disagree but paying 16 million for one side of your defense and needing to fill the other half through free agency is an awful idea.

The Golden Man
Aug 4, 2007

RIP cementhead

ThinkTank
Oct 23, 2007

Darude - Adam Sandstorm posted:

I don't disagree but paying 16 million for one side of your defense and needing to fill the other half through free agency is an awful idea.

They're in trouble no matter what happens, if they can get any sort of top-4 defenceman for Duchene they should take it. They can always ship Johnson or Barrie out to balance things. They need a complete gutting. MacKinnon, Rantanen, Jost and Barrie are the only guys worth keeping for the long haul.

Darude - Adam Sandstorm
Aug 16, 2012

I agree but nothing points to the Avs wanting to do a total tear down.

Ginette Reno
Nov 18, 2006

How Doers get more done
Fun Shoe

ElwoodCuse posted:

It's not even just yinzer yokels, it's Mark Madden and Mark Madden Lite Colin Dunlap. If Kevin Stevens isn't famous he'd be in prison. He's lucky to be alive tbh, his drug issues are by no means recent or slight.

He's been given a ton of chances for sure. I hope he turns it around for good. I'm sure it was fun to get coked up and win cups and fights earlier in his life but come on dude you're in your 50s now.

ThinkTank posted:

If the stars align Sprong will have a handful of 40 point seasons in his career. That's if everything goes right. He's a good but not amazing prospect. If you can get a legitimate top line forward for him, you make that move in a second. Duchene had just completed a 67 point NHL season at the age Sprong is now.

Sprong was ranked 49th among prospects not in the NHL in February. He's like a B+ level type at best.

http://www.tsn.ca/test1-1.677389

Yeah I like the way he's trending but Duchene is a good NHL forward now who is much better than Bonino. Our center depth would be pretty studly with him.

There is the issue of finding pkers/d-zone draw type guys in the event you pick up a Duchene. You don't want to have to force feed Crosby all the tough d-zone starts and obviously Malkin/Duchene you're gonna want deployed more offensively.

Old Man Cullen please step right up and take 80% d-zone starts again thank you.

bewbies
Sep 23, 2003

Fun Shoe
What were Dave Semenko's possession numbers? I need a chart. One dimensional punchmen, bad.

CBJSprague24
Dec 5, 2010

another game at nationwide arena. everybody keeps asking me if they can fuck the cannon. buddy, they don't even let me fuck it

https://twitter.com/Aportzline/status/880401207508033539

Go on...

a false
Mar 5, 2009

I DECIDE
WHO LIVES
AND WHO DIES

Hand Knit posted:

https://twitter.com/JeffMarek/status/880424322397024257

He's before my time, but there has always been a soft spot in my heart for people like him and Gino Odjick.

speaking of gino odjick, i was surprised to find out that apparently he is healthy now :unsmith:

Kilza
Oct 4, 2013


https://twitter.com/JSportsnet/status/880424311823224832

Yikes. :smith:

DJExile
Jun 28, 2007


jesus, that's awful

Kilza
Oct 4, 2013

https://twitter.com/FriedgeHNIC/status/880456560849416193

Well this is highly unexpected.

Look Around You
Jan 19, 2009


Wait I thought their roster was set?

Darude - Adam Sandstorm
Aug 16, 2012


Excited to have an uneccessary cap hit when the team is in cap hell!

Levitate
Sep 30, 2005

randy newman voice

YOU'VE GOT A LAFRENIÈRE IN ME
Hey Avs nick Holden is a top 4 defenseman! You even know it, you played him as one when he was with your team!

Aphrodite
Jun 27, 2006

When you're about to pay your young players so much you even need 1/3 of Benoit Pouliot's salary back.

Darude - Adam Sandstorm
Aug 16, 2012

The Oilers don't actually have a cap problem this year though. They should have waited another year to do this, unless they suddenly need the money now.

So who are the Oilers about to overpay on July 1st?

hifi
Jul 25, 2012

it's weird because 2 years from now their UFAs they can get rid of by then are fayne, the korpedo's buyout, letestu, and maroon. their core group for better or worse is all out into the 2020s. i think they should have just buried him to get actual relief in 2019 and 2020

Mike_V
Jul 31, 2004

3/18/2023: Day of the Dorks

Darude - Adam Sandstorm posted:

The Oilers don't actually have a cap problem this year though. They should have waited another year to do this, unless they suddenly need the money now.

So who are the Oilers about to overpay on July 1st?

Karl Alzner at 8/48

Iodised QQ
Jul 23, 2004

Rotten Cookies posted:

https://twitter.com/StapeNewsday/status/880423426288230400

:psyboom:

What the gently caress? What was that Isles offer again....?


https://twitter.com/stapenewsday/status/880426882310840320

a false
Mar 5, 2009

I DECIDE
WHO LIVES
AND WHO DIES

id be perfectly happy if the rangers signed him cheap for a couple years. he's a good bottom 6 player still

Technetium
Oct 26, 2006

TRILOBITE TECHNICIAN
QUITE POSSIBLY GAY


They're delusional

CBJSprague24
Dec 5, 2010

another game at nationwide arena. everybody keeps asking me if they can fuck the cannon. buddy, they don't even let me fuck it

Aaron Portzline is suggesting Jenner+Murray+1st could be the haul for the Avs if the CBJ were to make a run at Duchene.

The Golden Man
Aug 4, 2007

Darude - Adam Sandstorm posted:

The Oilers don't actually have a cap problem this year though. They should have waited another year to do this, unless they suddenly need the money now.

So who are the Oilers about to overpay on July 1st?

Bizarre

Truther Vandross
Jun 17, 2008

CBJSprague24 posted:

Aaron Portzline is suggesting Jenner+Murray+1st could be the haul for the Avs if the CBJ were to make a run at Duchene.

I would do this as it's basically Jenner for Duchene because gently caress Ryan Murray but this will not happen in a million years.

Kilza
Oct 4, 2013

Another buyout:
https://twitter.com/mirtle/status/880478830951092225

Darude - Adam Sandstorm
Aug 16, 2012


Ya it really doesn't make sense unless they're about to pay someone 5 million a year.

Maybe Marleau or Thornton? I'm really confused.

Kilza
Oct 4, 2013

Darude - Adam Sandstorm posted:

Ya it really doesn't make sense unless they're about to pay someone 5 million a year.

Maybe Marleau or Thornton? I'm really confused.

Nope, seems like their plan is to do nothing with the added cap space right now.
https://twitter.com/Bob_Stauffer/status/880464806649581568

Which makes this buyout more dumb.

Look Around You
Jan 19, 2009

Kilza posted:

Nope, seems like their plan is to do nothing with the added cap space right now.
https://twitter.com/Bob_Stauffer/status/880464806649581568

Which makes this buyout more dumb.

I don't think you can buyout mid season.

But then, I don't think you're reliably going to add someone that hefty during the regular season either.

St. Dogbert
Mar 17, 2011
Injured players can't be bought out without their consent. If Pouliot happened to be injured during next year's buyout period and didn't consent to a buyout, the Oilers would be screwed - better to do it now, just in case.

jsoh
Mar 24, 2007

O Muhammad, I seek your intercession with my Lord for the return of my eyesight

St. Dogbert posted:

Injured players can't be bought out without their consent. If Pouliot happened to be injured during next year's buyout period and didn't consent to a buyout, the Oilers would be screwed - better to do it now, just in case.

players who dont play dont get injured

Darude - Adam Sandstorm
Aug 16, 2012

Kilza posted:

Nope, seems like their plan is to do nothing with the added cap space right now.
https://twitter.com/Bob_Stauffer/status/880464806649581568

Which makes this buyout more dumb.

But they already had like 4 million including if all the bonuses were reached. Not to mention whatever relief they're going to get with Sekera out 'til January.

ThinkTank
Oct 23, 2007

Look Around You posted:

I don't think you can buyout mid season.

But then, I don't think you're reliably going to add someone that hefty during the regular season either.

You can't buyout during the season, but this make some sense. Cap space is cumulative, so rather than spending to the cap now Chia is giving himself a bit of freedom to make a move at the deadline. $2M today can mean adding $6ish of salary at the deadline. That's a good player as opposed to a depth guy.

Look Around You
Jan 19, 2009

ThinkTank posted:

You can't buyout during the season, but this make some sense. Cap space is cumulative, so rather than spending to the cap now Chia is giving himself a bit of freedom to make a move at the deadline. $2M today can mean adding $6ish of salary at the deadline. That's a good player as opposed to a depth guy.

Is it? I thought only LTIR was cumulative?

CBJSprague24
Dec 5, 2010

another game at nationwide arena. everybody keeps asking me if they can fuck the cannon. buddy, they don't even let me fuck it


Aw drat, RIP Fartsmell. Go win a Cup. :(

This pretty much seals in my mind that something big is coming, as the Clarkson buyout more than allowed space to re-sign Anderson and Wennberg.

Do a fun thing now, Jarmo. :unsmigghh:

Aurora
Jan 7, 2008

I hope he doesn't win a cup

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Levitate
Sep 30, 2005

randy newman voice

YOU'VE GOT A LAFRENIÈRE IN ME
keeps being rumored that Vladimir Tkachev is at least going to attend Rangers training camp...he bought out his KHL contract and was supposed to be at the prospect camp they're having now but had visa issues. Could be interesting, very skilled and still young, put up good numbers in the KHL last season. Pretty slight though. Also a winger, don't know how that would pan out when teh Rangers need centers unless there are more moves to be made this summer

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