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| The Big3 Tourney |
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67 | 22.41% |
| Will Lakers draft Ball |
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40 | 13.38% |
| Where will the Pauls go |
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| Will LeBron jump ship to the Spurs or ?? |
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41 | 13.71% |
| Will every team in the league just pivot towards tanking |
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Someone please buy Jimmy Butler an account and give him the info via text or FaceTime. Let's get him to post here.
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Jun 29, 2017 23:50
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whats the risk? 2 ball dominant players can work fine together even without good offball games, and both players can easily work offball. is the risk that patrick beverly suddenly becomes a top 5 pg all time? that massively upgrading their team might not win them a championship at the cost of....absolutely 0 part of their future?
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Jun 29, 2017 23:52
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Strawberry Panda posted:I do not understand how a GM as good as Daryl Morey adds a top 10 player to a 55 win team and people think the trade is bad. from the weird complaints I've heard it seems like people WAAAAAY overrate Beverly. He's not in the ball park of league average starter at his position. He's just a rotation guy on an old money deal. That FRP is probably going to be 28. Lou Williams' contract is precisely as long as Paul's. Sam Dekker is Just A Guy. I mean, if Houston is paying Paul 40 million when he's 38 in 2023, that would be surprising and not great, but I suspect they'll avoid that somehow. e: and dont get me started on the montrezl harrell fans coming out of the woodwork on nba twitter. Bush Did Outer Heaven fucked around with this message at 23:56 on Jun 29, 2017 |
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Jun 29, 2017 23:52
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im excited for free agency to start Saturday  i wonder where gallo's gonna go!
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Jun 29, 2017 23:53
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Bush Did Outer Heaven posted:from the weird complaints I've heard it seems like people WAAAAAY overrate Beverly. He's not in the ball park of league average starter at his position. He's just a rotation guy on an old money deal. That FRP is probably going to be 28. Lou Williams' contract is precisely as long as Paul's. Sam Dekker is Just A Guy. I mean, if Houston is paying Paul 40 million when he's 38 in 2023, that would be surprising and not great, but I suspect they'll avoid that somehow. whoa I love the trade with all my heart but if you are going to diss bev, dekker, harrell, and sweet Lou we are going to fight I'll see you in Temecula, but the venue has a waiting list with R.D. Mangles constantly challenging people to bouts there
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Jun 29, 2017 23:56
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G-Hawk posted:There was probably 3 teams with a realistic chance at winning a title last year, with the Rockets and Celtics next in line. The Rockets were punching above their weight because of a historic season by James Harden, generally some pretty drat good luck with health, and a pretty clever group of well fitting players, good coaching, and obsession with offensive efficiency. But they didn't have enough talent, at all. In the playoffs, their limitations got exposed and by round 2, they hit their ceiling when an offense thats just basically James Harden runs the pick n roll and makes a good decision and they either bomb 3s or charge at the rim could be stopped. Just want to say this is an excellent drat post and I agree 100%. Nothing further to even add.
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Jun 29, 2017 23:56
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pubic works project posted:https://twitter.com/tribjazz/status/880533104980508672 Let's trade for Kris Dunn and Cam Payne, and also let's try to resign Rondo and add another 30 year old PG to our tanking roster
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Jun 29, 2017 23:57
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Ah people just get attached to role players I guess. Like how I was disappointed when I was 13 when Lamar Odom and Brian Grant got traded for Shaq.
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Jun 30, 2017 00:00
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zoux posted:Facetime is better owns
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Jun 30, 2017 00:00
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Strawberry Panda posted:Ah people just get attached to role players I guess. Like how I was disappointed when I was 13 when Lamar Odom and Brian Grant got traded for Shaq. I got mad when the Rockets traded Otis Thorpe for Clyde Drexler, come at me To take this into baseball, I got mad when the Astros traded Glenn Davis for Steve Finley, Pete Harnisch and Curt Schilling to make room on the roster for Jeff Bagwell
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Jun 30, 2017 00:01
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https://twitter.com/capelaclint/status/880471649941954560
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Jun 30, 2017 00:01
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My sister recently moved to Miami but when she was still living in downtown Houston she found out that Clint Capela lived in her apartments when she ran into him on an elevator She refused to introduce me 
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Jun 30, 2017 00:03
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:itshappening: https://twitter.com/IanBegley/status/880561088898637824
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Jun 30, 2017 00:05
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Welp, LeBron is going to NYC.
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Jun 30, 2017 00:06
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Hahaha what the
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Jun 30, 2017 00:06
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Calipari is a great pickup for when we need to secretly give our players money, not sure what else he brings tho
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Jun 30, 2017 00:12
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I think he's a meh coach but that would be a good role for him. It adds credibility with guys. It's pretty much the hire they would want to make if they didn't want stars to think they're a huge joke like they do right now.
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Jun 30, 2017 00:17
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Strawberry Panda posted:I do not understand how a GM as good as Daryl Morey adds a top 10 player to a 55 win team and people think the trade is bad. Has anyone said it's a bad trade? I have some reservations about the long-term viability if they give Paul a max extension, but the Rockets definitely won the trade on personnel alone, let alone that it's only a 1-year opt-in right now.
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Jun 30, 2017 00:19
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EvanTH posted:Hah, even when people acknowledge he's cooked he's still overrated. By the numbers he's a slightly below average shooter and an overall very inefficient shooter. Why are you bringing up stats related to things I didn't mention at all? Melo is a ~41.7% 3pt shooter on catch and shoot situations(0 dribbles)(around the same as Anderson's 42.4) All your stats show is that Melo is not at good as Chris Paul(one of the best PG's of all loving time) and takes a ton of bad shots. Which I don't think anyone is really debating. So sure if you want to reduce it. Melo is Ryan Anderson, but a version of him who can if necessary act autonomously. Which is something that Ryan Anderson can't do. So like I said, the issue with Melo is would be getting him to play in a team concept lower his usage and him probably playing more spot up than he has at any other point in his career. The price difference between Melo and Anderson(~5-6 million or so) is what you are paying for someone who in theory(to once again use your comparison) can be Ryan Anderson, but also if forced to make a play on his own can do so.
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Jun 30, 2017 00:21
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EvanTH my man, I couldn't have said it better myself. Everyone else, take it from us Knicks fans. We have been watching Melo for years. You don't want him on your team. I get we all have those memories of him scoring 61, the one or two nights out of the hundreds he's played where he couldn't miss. That one time he blocked a shot. That's not Melo. That's not who you're getting.
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Jun 30, 2017 00:21
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EvanTH posted:Calipari is a great pickup for when we need to secretly give our players money, not sure what else he brings tho College Athletics at the level Calipari operates at is perfect for a Team president/GM job.
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Jun 30, 2017 00:23
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NYK: nah https://mobile.twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/880564076153372673
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Jun 30, 2017 00:26
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Dexo posted:Why are you bringing up stats related to things I didn't mention at all? Ryan Anderson and Melo are both overpaid ding dongs
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Jun 30, 2017 00:27
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I mean, Isiah Thomas just turned you down to keep with his WNBA team so your choices here are probably getting slim.
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Jun 30, 2017 00:28
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Dexo made my point on Carmelo basically, but again I qualify I've barely watched him in games the last couple of years so I'm mostly just looking at stats. But basically, Ryan Anderson does little else but hit open 3s at a pretty good rate. (The really impressive thing in those shooting numbers is just how high his frequency of open shots was) Melo can do that also, and do some other things pretty well too. But he also can waste posessions, ball stop, and if hes going to complain about lower usage, thats an issue. Can/would he decrease his bad habits and tendacies and mostly focus on hitting open 3s, and sometimes creating offense when needed? I don't know, but if so, that would be pretty useful and perhaps worth the money.
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Jun 30, 2017 00:29
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Blind Pineapple posted:Has anyone said it's a bad trade? I have some reservations about the long-term viability if they give Paul a max extension, but the Rockets definitely won the trade on personnel alone, let alone that it's only a 1-year opt-in right now. Fast cars loose anus said the trade sucked.
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Jun 30, 2017 00:29
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It's less about what Carmelo does and more about what he refuses to do He's capable of being an insane playmaker who could help out any team in the league if he wished to. His passing is great. His on-court attitude and approach to the game sucks though and I would never presume to try to convince a Knicks fan otherwise
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Jun 30, 2017 00:33
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kiimo posted:Did Gregg Popovich grow up in Germany or something? His dad is Serbian, mother is Croatian; he was a trained intelligence officer in the U.S. Air Force and spent a decent portion of his young adulthood in Eastern Europe. There's also a small, but non-zero chance that he was engaged in a bit of "soft spying" on the U.S.S.R. for the U.S.
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Jun 30, 2017 00:37
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Cool Buff Man posted:It's less about what Carmelo does and more about what he refuses to do Yeah thats probably right, my hypothetical is basically good guy Olympic Melo. Anyway its a moot point I don't think Morey is going to trade for that contract and the more likely scenario would be if Melo is bought out and the Rockets sign him.
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Jun 30, 2017 00:38
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Cool Buff Man posted:It's less about what Carmelo does and more about what he refuses to do This is probably sums up my feelings on it. And I get Knicks fans feelings on him. I just think if you put Melo next to two players like CP3 and Harden he would play more like he should.
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Jun 30, 2017 00:40
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I don't think its unreasonable to think that Carmelo might look a lot better (especially on efficiency) if he is on a better team and a better system. He won't be worth his contract, but if he goes to Houston for people who might literally not exist its not like they had cap room to do anything else.
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Jun 30, 2017 00:44
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Teodosic is going to be a good signing for whoever ends up with him. Cool Buff Man posted:I'm gonna say... Houstan... Houstan Rockettes... If we can just sign/trade for everyone who has Paul in their name this will have been a good offseason
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Jun 30, 2017 00:55
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Ryan Anderson is not terrible at attacking with the ball either. He can dribble drive into a dirk leg fadeaway that's actually tough to guard and sometimes he'll have it all game.
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Jun 30, 2017 00:55
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G-Hawk posted:Yeah thats probably right, my hypothetical is basically good guy Olympic Melo. Anyway its a moot point I don't think Morey is going to trade for that contract and the more likely scenario would be if Melo is bought out and the Rockets sign him. Dexo posted:This is probably sums up my feelings on it. And I get Knicks fans feelings on him. I just think if you put Melo next to two players like CP3 and Harden he would play more like he should. I hope he does end up somewhere where he's motivated to play up to his capabilities because he's really fun to watch when he's engaged and full of care about the game http://nbamath.com/pull-up-shooting/ This is cool
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Jun 30, 2017 01:04
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Panzeh posted:Ryan Anderson is not terrible at attacking with the ball either. He can dribble drive into a dirk leg fadeaway that's actually tough to guard and sometimes he'll have it all game. Anderson has mastered the Rockets flavor of "gently caress it shoot it from 33" which worked pretty well this season
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Jun 30, 2017 01:06
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Some days you regret getting yourself banned from Kentucky boards.
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Jun 30, 2017 01:08
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Dexo posted:Why are you bringing up stats related to things I didn't mention at all? Oh I was diving right past what you were saying, going into a Melo sucks rant. I've got some kinda PTSD from watching him play for the last 7 seasons, slightest reminder sets me off and I start foaming at the mouth and threatening bystanders. Ryan Anderson seemed like a handy comparison for a Rockets player doesn't play defense, can't do much on offense has a reputation for shooting and is probably overpaid. Chris Paul stats were in there just because I seen 'em while I was looking through numbers and they were fuckin' awesome. My eyes popped out of my skull and I had to put them back in like a cartoon wolf. Sorta "whoa look at what a great player can do." I don't remember CP3 having a better reputation than Melo as a shooter, but he oughta have it. What a great pickup for the Rockets Main thrust was that Melo really isn't good at a lot of the things that people still think he's good at, and I don't think Morey's going to ditch an overpaid player (Anderson) who can't do much and doesn't play any defense in order to pick up another player who also doesn't play defense and can't do much in a very similar way, plus is WAY overpaid. Even after a buyout I'm not sure what he could reasonably offer. edit: and I also don't think the Knicks buy him out, because they are proven dumb. Response to the bold it part is partial agreement, but again I think he's really, really not as good at "acting autonomously" as his reputation would suggest. Once Melo puts the ball on the floor his 3p% ducks under 30%. (Real weird stat here--like you said Melo's catch&shoot, 0 dribbles on a three is 41.7%, but then if he takes a single dribble it drops to 23.5%, back up to 31% with a second dribble). Absolutely Ryan Anderson shouldn't be depended on to put the ball on the floor, but it's not like Melo gets good outcomes when he does it. For the second bold part, Melo's shown himself to be actively hostile to anyone who tries to get him to play different, including the Rockets current head coach. Again I don't think Morey makes that trade. Ahah which wasn't anything I've seen argued in this section of the internet, but my already poo poo team is falling apart and I gotta post. I'm most of the way certain that Kristaps is done with us, Knicks are just gonna stunt his development for another year or two then lose him for nothing. EvanTH fucked around with this message at 01:14 on Jun 30, 2017 |
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Jun 30, 2017 01:08
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I had completely forgotten about D'Antoni's stint in New York somehow. Yikes.
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Jun 30, 2017 01:15
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Jun 30, 2017 01:15
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Are the knicks conducting a GM search via twitter.
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