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namaste faggots posted:Help me understand how a politician goes to bed at night thinking that suppressing voters is a legitimate political tactic. They dream of killing all non whites with their ARs.
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boner confessor posted:grant was an alcoholic but he was largely functional and his drinking was mostly a response to being bored and away from his family. his drinking was totally exaggerated by unkind rumors and military politics but it wasn't a fabrication, he did have a drinking problem Also, even if he was a drunk, the man's accomplishments far outweigh any personal failings in the balance of things.
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Yawgmoft posted:You better go tell McPherson. i mean it really depends on how you define 'drunk' but grant was pretty solidly an alcoholic, his first resignation was tied directly to his excessive consumption of alcohol whether or not that was actual dereliction of duty or, more likely, just pissing off the wrong man. i can't get access to mcpherson's argument so unless you paraphrase it i'm going to assume that he just went along with the typical argument which is "grant struggled with alcoholism but this almost certainly had no impact on his performance during the civil war or as president" by the time of the civil war he was largely sober with occasional relapses but his bad reputation followed him around and gave his political opponents an easy angle to criticize him
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farraday posted:https://twitter.com/LarrySabato/status/880516753155014665 I can see him smugly dodging it. "I can't control who sends me emails" 
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Fraction Jackson posted:
Didn't they offer him immunity a while back and then rescind it? Either he's got nothing particularly damning on anyone other than himself or the case is so rock solid against the conspirators that they don't need his testimony. I know which possibility I've been conditioned to think is more likely.
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Deified Data posted:Didn't they offer him immunity a while back and then rescind it? Either he's got nothing particularly damning on anyone other than himself or the case is so rock solid against the conspirators that they don't need his testimony. I know which possibility I've been conditioned to think is more likely. He asked for immunity and they more or less laughed at him.
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Deified Data posted:Didn't they offer him immunity a while back and then rescind it? Either he's got nothing particularly damning on anyone other than himself or the case is so rock solid against the conspirators that they don't need his testimony. I know which possibility I've been conditioned to think is more likely. or maybe he wouldn't roll up the food chain so they told him to pound sand
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Deified Data posted:Didn't they offer him immunity a while back and then rescind it? Either he's got nothing particularly damning on anyone other than himself or the case is so rock solid against the conspirators that they don't need his testimony. I know which possibility I've been conditioned to think is more likely. No, he offered to testify in exchange for immunity and they told him to gently caress off. Flynn is hosed.
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Is..the insane conspiracy theory actually true? It looked like Trump cooperated with Russia and he actually did? Am I merely believing what I want to believe, or is it pretty much a lock now?
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business hammocks posted:Is..the insane conspiracy theory actually true? It looked like Trump cooperated with Russia and he actually did? Am I merely believing what I want to believe, or is it pretty much a lock now? This has been obvious for months now where have you been?
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Jun 29, 2017 23:50
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Is it socially unacceptable mocking to ask which loving eye I'm supposed to follow when Sanders is talking? I don't want to flaunt my able privilege but wouldn't all that money daddy got from gubmintin' cover a procedure to fix that poo poo? e: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-mxBDuRaZ8
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business hammocks posted:Is..the insane conspiracy theory actually true? It looked like Trump cooperated with Russia and he actually did? Am I merely believing what I want to believe, or is it pretty much a lock now? Its fake news. The FBI is colluding with the CNN to take down Trump because hes trying to drain the swamp.
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Jun 29, 2017 23:52
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business hammocks posted:Is..the insane conspiracy theory actually true? It looked like Trump cooperated with Russia and he actually did? Am I merely believing what I want to believe, or is it pretty much a lock now? This has been obvious for some time, whether it was actually going to be provable is the questioned part. Considering that Donald Trump is consistent on one and only one issue, ever, in his entire life, and that's defending the incredibly bad government of Russia....
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business hammocks posted:Is..the insane conspiracy theory actually true? It looked like Trump cooperated with Russia and he actually did? Am I merely believing what I want to believe, or is it pretty much a lock now? People working on his campaign. Still nothing pointing directly to trump. But at this point it's probably coming.
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business hammocks posted:Is..the insane conspiracy theory actually true? It looked like Trump cooperated with Russia and he actually did? Am I merely believing what I want to believe, or is it pretty much a lock now? He literally asked them to hack clinton's emails on live television during a debate.
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business hammocks posted:Is..the insane conspiracy theory actually true? It looked like Trump cooperated with Russia and he actually did? Am I merely believing what I want to believe, or is it pretty much a lock now? there is so far no evidence that trump PERSONALLY cooperated with russia. there appears to be (and has for... a year?) a shitload of evidence that individuals within his campaign cooperated with Russia. There may or may not be evidence that his campaign as an organization cooperated with russia. e: ZobarStyl posted:Is it socially unacceptable mocking to ask which loving eye I'm supposed to follow when Sanders is talking
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So I guess that means they're really going for it.
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Yawgmoft posted:Don't meet your heroes. Do you remember that short lived cartoon that was supposed to teach kids about history? Woof. Are you talking about Histeria? Lots of Futurama voice actors on that show. Also, how is a former counter-terrorism and Intelligence leader so bad at covering his tracks?
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Blind Pineapple posted:Are you talking about Histeria? Lots of Futurama voice actors on that show. a woman that worked across a desk from flynn for a few years in afghanistan(?) basically described him as a savant at gathering intel and absolutely lost on how to interpret and utilize it he's failed up as hard as anyone in the current administration
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So why isn't all of this Russia stuff being shouted from the highest mountain, instead of Trump's tweet storm this morning?
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Dick Trauma posted:I think someone better take Johnny's quill away... "I hereby pass the Alien, Sedition, and Covfefe Act."
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Your Taint posted:So why isn't all of this Russia stuff being shouted from the highest mountain, instead of Trump's tweet storm this morning? Because it has been for like 2 months now? Just because the media is focusing on something else for a single day doesn't mean people have forgotten. Or did you just miss all of the 24/7 Comey drama?
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Your Taint posted:So why isn't all of this Russia stuff being shouted from the highest mountain, instead of Trump's tweet storm this morning? It just dropped. Give it a minute.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Because it has been for like 2 months now? Just because the media is focusing on something else for a single day doesn't mean people have forgotten. Or did you just miss all of the 24/7 Comey drama? I was talking about this particular element of it, not the story in general. No pun intended but evidence of collusion trumps Donny Dipshit's latest triggered butthurt Twitter rants.
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Cheekio posted:So I guess that means they're really going for it. I'll take a selfie and post it here when my head finally splits clean the gently caress in two. Watching government dismantle itself must be like a conservative wonderland.
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Your Taint posted:I was talking about this particular element of it, not the story in general. The article that brought this up was literally just released, whereas Trump's stupid tweet was made in the early morning. The endless 24 hour news cycle has ample time to cover all this idiocy.
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Your Taint posted:So why isn't all of this Russia stuff being shouted from the highest mountain, instead of Trump's tweet storm this morning? What would you like to happen that isn't happening?
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Your Taint posted:So why isn't all of this Russia stuff being shouted from the highest mountain, instead of Trump's tweet storm this morning? I think the media's a little gunshy after the CNN "FAKE NEWS!!!" nonsense, and it's also a little more complex of a story than just Trump being his old misogynist self. They're parsing it, but it will probably get some play tonight and definitely tomorrow.
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So I finally got around to reading Guns of August, and every time Kaiser Willhelm II comes up I can't help but feel I've seen this behavior in someone before, then it hit me that he is motherfucking Trump, Bare with me here. Born to wealth and power and had everything given to him, despite every advantage given to him by this he turned out to be a colossal moron. Complained to foreign leaders he/his country wasn't getting the respect they deserved from the other nations/leaders, everything he touched he seemed to screw up with the only exceptions being things handled by competent underlings (and he took/tried to take credit for every success). Unnecessarily aggravated and pissed of other leaders, held grudges to a stupid degree. Sure no two people in history are ever completely the same but man I just can't help but think Willhelm II was last centuries Trump, and to wrap it all up Trumps family is German descended and Trumps birth year is only 5 years after the Kaisers death.
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:What would you like to happen that isn't happening? Did.... Did I not make myself clear?
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Your Taint posted:I was talking about this particular element of it, not the story in general. It just got dropped late in the day when everyone was pretty focused on the tweet story, and they probably want to verify stuff and do some work before running with it especially after the CNN thing earlier this week? If its got legs then it will be in prime time or tomorrow morning. I assume Maddow will definitely have something to say about it.
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Internet Kraken posted:The article that brought this up was literally just released, whereas Trump's stupid tweet was made in the early morning. I was unaware as to how long this story had been out. I retract if it's only been an hour or so.
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Millions of new coal jobs, any day now!
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:What would you like to happen that isn't happening? People going to jail.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:Millions of new coal jobs, any day now! *robots mining coal intensifies*
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Pollyanna posted:People going to jail. plenty of people are going to jail they're just all black
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