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There's an interesting documentary called Bronies which, well, you see a little bit of their world and how it helped all these shy nerds come out of their shells, but it still didn't help me understand why so many grown people would love such a simplistic kid's show. Pick posted:I think it's weird that they randomly inserted taye diggs as a hot cat ... brb while I watch the trailer
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Nothing wrong with simple; Totoro is certainly Ghibli's simplest film and remains many people's favorite of their lineup.
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Jun 29, 2017 22:13
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Desperado Bones posted:
It's probably pretty deep by their standards, you're not exactly gonna see a lot of fans of My Little Pony who have opinions about which translation of The Stranger is best.
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Jun 29, 2017 22:16
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That is so sad, I would be like super interested in going to a women only gaming con, considering that is rare for me to find another woman willing to talk about games outside the internet. I'm a bit sick of the whole "gaming is for booooyyyzzz only" mentality. 
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Hedrigall posted:There's an interesting documentary called Bronies which, well, you see a little bit of their world and how it helped all these shy nerds come out of their shells, but it still didn't help me understand why so many grown people would love such a simplistic kid's show. Assuming this is the one hosted by John DeLancie that was on Netflix (yes there are multiple brony documentaries) it was just OK because it was made by bronies so they were trying to look their best and mostly just throwing softballs. There were a few funny bits but it was mostly just boring and yeah they don't really do much to explain why they actually like the show.
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Generally what I've heard is that people liked it because it was a safe and friendly cartoon that filled an emotional niche (minimally violent friendly emotional encounters) that rarely get marketed to boys and/or manchildren. The fact some of them took it to become "I want to sex/kill the ponies' is because there are a lot of hosed up people out there who are at once attracted to the safe low-effort emotional candy that is a MLP cartoon but unable to divorce it from the other hobbies they've made central to their life.
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The show's just nice. Like yeah, it's obviously not deep, but in my opinion it's a nice show. Low-key lessons about being a good friend. If anyone doesn't know those basic tenets of friendship by our age,... uh, poo poo. Maybe they do need to watch it. I watched seasons 1 and 2 and occasionally later episodes if the description made me curious (like bringing back Tirak, who was from the 80s cartoon). It started off strong and got boring when they ran out of steam, kind of the same way I felt about 90% of the last season of SU. Like, part of the simplicity of the show is they flat-out tell the kids the moral at the end, so it's pretty easy to tell what the point of the show is, and yeah it's just manners basically. quote:I have learned a very valuable lesson about friendship: I was so afraid of being thought of as a showoff that I was hiding a part of who I am. My friends helped me realize that it's okay to be proud of your talents, and there are times when it's appropriate to show them off... Especially when you're standing up for your friends. It's stuff a 6-year-old should be learning and a 30-year-old man ought to already know. But if a 30-year-old guy doesn't know that yet, blame their parents, not cartoons. Pick fucked around with this message at 22:40 on Jun 29, 2017 |
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Jun 29, 2017 22:34
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Taye Diggs cat thrown in at the end there like "Sir Not-Appearing-In-This-Film" 
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Pick posted:Nothing wrong with simple; Totoro is certainly Ghibli's simplest film and remains many people's favorite of their lineup. Similarly, one of the best animated films in recent years was Shaun the Sheep, which is the very definition of simple, low-key entertainment.
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Samuel Clemens posted:Similarly, one of the best animated films in recent years was Shaun the Sheep, which is the very definition of simple, low-key entertainment. It's like a good loaf of French bread. It's not about being fancy, it's about something simple done well.
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Desperado Bones posted:
The GeekGirlCon in the Seattle area ended up getting bomb threats for bullshit gamergate reasons, and I heard a lot of fans threw a bitch fit over the Sailor Moon announcement thingy hosted by a women's mag was pretty much women only (men were only allowed if a woman brought them, they can't just go in alone).
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I don't mind simple, but I could never quite understand why MLP specifically. My niece watches Doc McStuffins, Paw Patrol and Carebears and they're all very simple, wholesome shows, but for some reason no one latched onto those. I sincerely just don't understand why MLP. And I can literally watch a kid tie her hair up in a ponytail in Ghibli animation and be enthralled by its finesse. That's some god tier 2D there.
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Robindaybird posted:The GeekGirlCon in the Seattle area ended up getting bomb threats for bullshit gamergate reasons, and I heard a lot of fans threw a bitch fit over the Sailor Moon announcement thingy hosted by a women's mag was pretty much women only (men were only allowed if a woman brought them, they can't just go in alone). In the Spanish one manchildren were planning to gather up and attend pretending to be transwomen to troll everyone. Their rationalization was in the vein of "these women are discriminating against men, how can they talk about equality when they do that?? there's nothing wrong with gamer culture so why can't they attend normal gamer gatherings instead of making one that's only for women??". Cool guys.
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Das Boo posted:I don't mind simple, but I could never quite understand why MLP specifically. My niece watches Doc McStuffins, Paw Patrol and Carebears and they're all very simple, wholesome shows, but for some reason no one latched onto those. I sincerely just don't understand why MLP. I think it's due to Lauren Faust's involvement at the start. It's what some of my animator friends were telling me to try to sell me on it 
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PenguinKnight posted:I think it's due to Lauren Faust's involvement at the start. I don't think they'd care if it were done by anyone else when it premiered. Huh! That helps a bit, though I'm surprised she has that big of a fanbase with Joe Schmoe 20-something.
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Das Boo posted:Huh! That helps a bit, though I'm surprised she has that big of a fanbase with Joe Schmoe 20-something. A lot of us grew up watching Power Puff Girls and Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends, so that was brought up a lot when trying to get people to watch it.
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Das Boo posted:Huh! That helps a bit, though I'm surprised she has that big of a fanbase with Joe Schmoe 20-something. I think it's because of Powerpuff Girls and Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends, honestly. Also, the fandom is still going, just not as crazily as it was. I think the crazed people are gone and just people who like the animation or writing are left. I stopped watching the show because, after Faust left, there was pretty much zero character development as everyone constantly learns the same lessons over and over and over. I would watch the movie because the animation is nice and all, but I don't want to buy a ticket and seem like a creeper. I would much rather watch the new Jumanji or something. Das Boo posted:I don't mind simple, but I could never quite understand why MLP specifically. My niece watches Doc McStuffins, Paw Patrol and Carebears and they're all very simple, wholesome shows, but for some reason no one latched onto those. I sincerely just don't understand why MLP. I have a friend who got REALLY defensive when I told him I didn't understand the hype that people my age (late 20s, early 30s) have for Paw Patrol. He kept asking "What's wrong with that? Nothing's wrong with that! It's a GOOD show. There is NOTHING wrong with that." I still don't understand it as I couldn't make it through the first episode where they saw a kitten about to drown and, instead of helping, they ran off to their secret base to talk about how awful the situation was and how they had to do something. It was kind of hilariously bad writing. Maybe that's why. Anyway, to talk about animated movies....uhhh...well I guess MLP actually counts. I would see the movie because I actually liked the writing at times but one, the fanboys ruined it and two, which is the big reason, the writers who are left over ruined it worse because they let the fanboys control what happens and they have no concept of character development.
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I was going to mention the Flash thing being a deterrent for animation nerds, but then I remembered Foster's and late PPG were Flash. Okay, so that makes sense. But THISThermoPhysical posted:... the hype that people my age (late 20s, early 30s) have for Paw Patrol. 
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Das Boo posted:I don't mind simple, but I could never quite understand why MLP specifically. My niece watches Doc McStuffins, Paw Patrol and Carebears and they're all very simple, wholesome shows, but for some reason no one latched onto those. I When the new Care Bears came out, Hasbro gave an honest try at trying to court the brony crowd, even coming up with the term "Belly Buddies" to refer to the hypothetical fandom. It didn't take, of course.
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It seems to me that the whole base just got worse and worse in their utter desperation to justify their enjoyment of something marketed to girls. So terrified of being insulted they took over the entire space and mocked actual little girls trying to enjoy it themselves. The only lasting good experience I've had with the drat thing is babysitting a kid who was excited I recognize her toys.
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Waffleman_ posted:When the new Care Bears came out, Hasbro gave an honest try at trying to court the brony crowd, even coming up with the term "Belly Buddies" to refer to the hypothetical fandom. It didn't take, of course. marketing never seem to understand weird fandoms like that resist being actively recruited and they tend to be spontaneous and nigh-impossible to predict.
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Elman posted:In the Spanish one manchildren were planning to gather up and attend pretending to be transwomen to troll everyone. I want to apologize for the derail, BUT HOLY gently caress. We get treated like literal trash on video games, like our gender is what makes us automatically be bad and suck and turn us in to a target of vicious mockering because reasons, to the point that I don't reveal my real life gender in online gaming unless is someone I really really know and these guys dare to whine and whine because some girls just don't want to stand next to a total rear end in a top hat and want to socialize with other girls that share their hoobies????? Oh well, back to the thread, Waffleman_ posted:When the new Care Bears came out, Hasbro gave an honest try at trying to court the brony crowd, even coming up with the term "Belly Buddies" to refer to the hypothetical fandom. It didn't take, of course. I really liked the Care Bears when I was a little kid (my fav bear was the grumpy one  ), but I wasn't even aware they tried a reboot. How bad it was?
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Hey, there's a festival over in Europe right now that's premiering some promising stuff! I love the art style for "Big Bad Fox and Other Tales," a French 2D animated flick that looks like it's the follow-up to Ernest and Celestine - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G55ToR5lP6A Good reviews, and yes, it's from that film's director - http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/review/big-bad-fox-tales-review-1013377 A major surprise is that Animal Crackers got good reviews. Still not sure if it ever sees release in the States, as it doesn't have a distributor and Weinstein moved Leap! to its supposed release here - http://variety.com/2017/film/reviews/animal-crackers-review-1202465654/
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I think another key to the MLP thing was that it was on a brand new channel that showed reruns of BTAS, Batman '66, Animaniacs, etc. So weirdos who wanted to watch cool poo poo ended up latching to this weird thing, and it was all downhill from there.
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Hub was a cool network. Family Ties, Doogie Howser, Transformers, and Batman TAS was a solid lineup.
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ThermoPhysical posted:I have a friend who got REALLY defensive when I told him I didn't understand the hype that people my age (late 20s, early 30s) have for Paw Patrol. I have never met such people, and God willing, I never will. My kids love it, but they're 7 and 8 and it's mostly because they love dogs. I can't conceive of wanting to watch it for the writing or deep plots or whatever. We saw an episode on some kids' channel in Britain a couple of weeks ago, and I was amused by the fact that the show is re-dubbed with British VAs there, though. Detective No. 27 posted:Hub was a cool network. Family Ties, Doogie Howser, Transformers, and Batman TAS was a solid lineup. I can't believe we're talking about The Hub and nobody has mentioned Dan Vs. or The Aquabats! Super Show! raditts fucked around with this message at 02:17 on Jun 30, 2017 |
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I just learned something kinda hilarious: apparently The RZA directed a movie scheduled to come out this year starring noted Terrible-at-Twitter rapper Azealia Banks called Coco. So everyone start working on your awkward questions to ask Lee Unkrich about how it was working with a member of Wu Tang and someone who was so terrible on the internet that they got banned from Twitter.
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Where do I find this to buy and own forever? I will even get it in French despite not knowing any of it.
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raditts posted:I have never met such people, and God willing, I never will. I know some parents who say that as far as shows their kids make them watch Paw Patrol is OK because of how bonkers it is (like the mayor having a talking pet chicken that lives in her purse and it also the Sheriff of the city, apparently?) but I have thankfully never met a grown adult who watches it on their own. And yeah, Aquabats! Super Show! was a lot of fun and it's a shame that it never really found an audience. You'd think with the Homestar Runner and Mega64 guys working on it that it would have gotten more internet attention.
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I forgot about Aquabats and Dan Vs. Both were fantastic. It took me a while to figure out if I loved or hated it, but I ended up loving it. Everyone knows a Dan.
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*steps up to mic* *blows into it softly, taps twice* Hi, I watched My Little Pony when I was in college. It was fun, it had the same style of humour as shows from my childhood, and it made me feel less stressed after a hard week of school and work. I remember posting in the MLP thread here in SA, which was a feel good thread with a bunch of dorks who went so far as to actually buy toy ponys in real life, the dorks, and thats about as bad as that thread got, but once the mods gassed it and a forum wide pony ban was enforced, I tried venturing out into the wild internet to find other pony fans. gently caress. Holy gently caress. Stopped watching the show after season two since I wasn't in college anymore and didn't see the point since Lauren Faust left, that and the fandom meant I wasn't enjoying it anymore. That's my story, thanks. Also apparently Cars 3 is in theatres already? Has nobody in this thread seen it?
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I saw Cars 3 earlier last weekend, it was far better then Cars 2, but the plot was pretty cut and dry the ending was pretty good through and pretty much the logical end for McQueen. Also the short before it was very charming.
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ThermoPhysical posted:Where do I find this to buy and own forever? I will even get it in French despite not knowing any of it. I will force my boyfriend to watch with me and translate in realtime like he works for the UN or something >:3
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CRINDY posted:Hey, there's a festival over in Europe right now that's premiering some promising stuff! Thank you, I am always glad for animal movie news 
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Guy Mann posted:I know some parents who say that as far as shows their kids make them watch Paw Patrol is OK because of how bonkers it is (like the mayor having a talking pet chicken that lives in her purse and it also the Sheriff of the city, apparently?) but I have thankfully never met a grown adult who watches it on their own.  I haven't either found an adult that watches it because they like it. I've only watched Paw Patrol because my nephew got obsessed with it for a while. And that was last year, when he was 5, it's quite repetitive, but then it's a show for little kids so I don't see anything wrong about it.
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Guy Mann posted:I know some parents who say that as far as shows their kids make them watch Paw Patrol is OK because of how bonkers it is (like the mayor having a talking pet chicken that lives in her purse and it also the Sheriff of the city, apparently?) but I have thankfully never met a grown adult who watches it on their own. Shows like that that are specifically for really young kids, the kind of thing you'd see on Nick Jr, were sometimes some of the weirdest stuff. Years and years ago I saw this show called Wonder Pets, and it starred... a duck? I think? And a hamster? And something else. And they had a little song they sung too. And they just went around saving animals who were in dire need. But like one was a BABY ELEPHANT who was stuck in a tree somehow?? I also remember there was one where a pidgeon or... something, wanted to join as a fourth member but he kept loving things up and most of the episode was them trying to get rid of him cause he was too much of a fuckup to join the team.
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SatansBestBuddy posted:It was fun, it had the same style of humour as shows from my childhood, and it made me feel less stressed after a hard week of school and work. Yeah, that's the main thing, but I don't get how this developed into affection for things like Paw Patrol. I think a big part of my enjoyment was seeing something that was, like, "ours" (i.e. for girls) adapted into something modern with actual heart and effort, because mostly things for boys have gotten the resources for high-budget reboots--Transformers, TMNT, Ghostbusters, GI Joe--and left those of us with girlier memories of 80s cartoons with very little. I mean, things like Lady Lovely Locks were garbage but our garbage was just forgotten, not handed hundreds of millions of dollars to become billionaire blockbusters. I only watched the early episodes, but that said, I still do check for when they have episodes that cross over with one of my other favorite childhood shows, Star Trek: The Next Generation. Since, you know, they put Q in MLP. Like, it's exactly the same character. He has the same powers, uses them for the same reasons, has the same personality, and has the same villain->wildcard->"friend with excuse to set episode in Robin Hood times or some poo poo" arc. He even does Q's teleportation thing and finger snap. Oh and also he's, yanno, voiced by John de Lancie. Why the gently caress is Q in my little pony, I don't know the answer to that   Oh well, thanks for giving John de Lancie a job!
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There was a live action Josie and the Pussycats but that was total garbage, but yeah - girls' shows don't really get the benefits of it, though I heard JEM and the Holograms got a comic series, which also means they didn't have to write around the children's television censorship or the need to abide by certain rules like 'conform or you're wrong'
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Robindaybird posted:There was a live action Josie and the Pussycats but that was total garbage, but yeah - girls' shows don't really get the benefits of it, though I heard JEM and the Holograms got a comic series, which also means they didn't have to write around the children's television censorship or the need to abide by certain rules like 'conform or you're wrong' are you forgetting the JEM movie that came out? Because I think everyone else is too. edit: also wait hold on I've never seen it but from what I understand the live-action Josie and the Pussycats is actually an awesome satire of late-90's pop music/culture/commercialism.
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Macaluso posted:Shows like that that are specifically for really young kids, the kind of thing you'd see on Nick Jr, were sometimes some of the weirdest stuff. Years and years ago I saw this show called Wonder Pets, and it starred... a duck? I think? And a hamster? And something else. And they had a little song they sung too. And they just went around saving animals who were in dire need. But like one was a BABY ELEPHANT who was stuck in a tree somehow?? I also remember there was one where a pidgeon or... something, wanted to join as a fourth member but he kept loving things up and most of the episode was them trying to get rid of him cause he was too much of a fuckup to join the team. I must have seen this in a YTMND or thought I hallucinated it until I decided to check if it actually happened. The Wonder Pets mull over their dining and urinary habits.
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