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Gatts
Jan 2, 2001

Goodnight Moon

Nap Ghost

Dimebags Brain posted:

If you're not using Wrestlemania as a chance to rise out of the stage on a skull throne, dressed as Conan the Barbarian, while Motorhead blares through a giant stadium, then what the gently caress are you doing being a wrestler?

I actually agree with this statement. Like, seriously, this is what this poo poo was made for.

Don't forget holding a pile of Terminator skulls then riding down to the ring on a motor bike driven by your Wench who is the company owner's daughter.

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Strawberry Panda
Nov 4, 2007

Breakfast Defecting, Slow Dick Touching, Root Beer Barreling SwagVP
HHH also gave himself the nickname of The Creator in his feud with Seth.

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

pig slut liza is running a tournament about old (100+ years ago) stories of people being bad with money. It probably predates the glory days of money marks blowing their fortunes on pro-wrestlers' coke habits, but if any of you know details of turn of the century would-be promoters sinking big bucks into pro-wrestling and getting taken to the cleaners, it might be something to consider entering.

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

THE LIAR

Strawberry Panda posted:

HHH also gave himself the nickname of The Creator in his feud with Seth.

At the very least, Mick called him out on that one being horseshit.

...before Stephanie low blowed him.

God, Mick deserved better. :sigh:

The_Rob
Feb 1, 2007

Blah blah blah blah!!
Coming out as a sick rear end barbarian is good, coming out as a weekend dad for a ride on his stupid dad motorcycle as he rides with the boys in blue is really good.

rovert
Jun 10, 2013
WWC twitter has said that Primo and Epico have requested a release from WWE. Sad if true but big potential for the Island.

https://twitter.com/WWCPR/status/880649255161090049

The_Rob
Feb 1, 2007

Blah blah blah blah!!
Who could blame them really. They were brought in with the most heatless boring gimmick of all time and then their gimmick was taken away where they are literally no one.

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

THE LIAR
It looked like they'd get a push for five seconds after the Superstar Shakeup. They deserve credit for even sticking around that long.

They always struck me as dudes who are really good in the ring and try really hard to make the terrible gimmicks given to them work. That their one chance at a real push fizzled out pretty much instantly is proof that the brass ring doesn't exist.

The_Rob
Feb 1, 2007

Blah blah blah blah!!

VJeff posted:

It looked like they'd get a push for five seconds after the Superstar Shakeup. They deserve credit for even sticking around that long.

They always struck me as dudes who are really good in the ring and try really hard to make the terrible gimmicks given to them work. That their one chance at a real push fizzled out pretty much instantly is proof that the brass ring doesn't exist.

They are great in ring. They are very smooth and have a good hard hitting style. But since wwe is all about lame gimmicks they never got far.

rovert
Jun 10, 2013
Hope he gets a graphic on Raw

https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/880644079243190273

That DICK!
Sep 28, 2010


i knew this information 30 hours ago but i didn't want gary de carlo fans to come after me.

https://twitter.com/people/status/880202782518763520

Abroham Lincoln
Sep 19, 2011

Note to self: This one's the good one



That DICK! posted:

i knew this information 30 hours ago but i didn't want gary de carlo fans to come after me.

You are very brave for posting this

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer

The_Rob posted:

Who could blame them really. They were brought in with the most heatless boring gimmick of all time and then their gimmick was taken away where they are literally no one.

To this day I do not understand that gimmick. Like, at all. It's like... did Vince travel to Puerto Rico and have a terrible time and this was revenge?

That DICK!
Sep 28, 2010

Maxwell Lord posted:

To this day I do not understand that gimmick. Like, at all. It's like... did Vince travel to Puerto Rico and have a terrible time and this was revenge?

Which gimmick

The_Rob
Feb 1, 2007

Blah blah blah blah!!

That DICK! posted:

Which gimmick

Shooting stars

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold
before they became timeshare scammers were the shining stars heels? or were they too boring to have an alignment

The_Rob
Feb 1, 2007

Blah blah blah blah!!

Raskolnikov38 posted:

before they became timeshare scammers were the shining stars heels? or were they too boring to have an alignment

I think they were supposed to be heels but I never knew why other than saying Puerto Rico was pretty good.

Web Jew.0
May 13, 2009

Feels Villeneuve posted:

HHH is totally going to try to make his annual Mania match into the same big deal that the Undertaker match was, isn't he

Vince told Punk that wrestling Triple H at WrestleMania is like being in the main event.

Big Coffin Hunter
Aug 13, 2005

VJeff posted:

HHH absolutely should have the biggest, most obnoxious entrance each year because in case you missed the point at Wrestlemania 30, the point was that HHH, the character is an insecure jackass who feels the need to make himself look like some kind of badass warrior king by giving himself the most ostentatious entrance possible. And then Daniel Bryan just walked out being Daniel Bryan and everybody loved him 10x more.

And at Wrestlemania 33, they essentially did the same thing with him coming down with a loving police escort, immediately followed by Seth symbolically burning all of his over the top poo poo down.

It's subtext, I tell you! SUBTEXT!

i really liked seth's entrance this year, as did the people i was watching with ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Golden Bee
Dec 24, 2009

I came here to chew bubblegum and quote 'They Live', and I'm... at an impasse.
They gave people tickets but they were economy. In a business that's all about traveling, that's considered unforgivable.

Benne
Sep 2, 2011

STOP DOING HEROIN
Does anyone under the age of 50 (or under a median income of, like, $500K) actually give a poo poo about timeshares? Who the hell thought that gimmick would get heat with wrestling crowds in 2016/17?

SunshineDanceParty
Feb 7, 2006

One Road. Two Friends. One Ass.

The_Rob posted:

Who could blame them really. They were brought in with the most heatless boring gimmick of all time and then their gimmick was taken away where they are literally no one.

I mean even before that they've been a tag team on the main roster since 2011. Hopefully they made alright money and it's not hard to imagine them doing well elsewhere.

SunshineDanceParty fucked around with this message at 09:39 on Jun 30, 2017

Prokhor Zakharov
Dec 31, 2008

This is me as I make another great post


Good luck with your depression!

Benne posted:

Does anyone under the age of 50 (or under a median income of, like, $500K) actually give a poo poo about timeshares? Who the hell thought that gimmick would get heat with wrestling crowds in 2016/17?

An old rich man with a timeshare?

TheHoosier
Dec 30, 2004

The fuck, Graham?!

rovert posted:

WWC twitter has said that Primo and Epico have requested a release from WWE. Sad if true but big potential for the Island.

https://twitter.com/WWCPR/status/880649255161090049

I love that 'liberación' can translate as deliverance, release, and rescue. seems appropriate for their situation. i'm sure the money was nice but eventually you figure out you're definitely going nowhere

Big Coffin Hunter
Aug 13, 2005

TheHoosier posted:

I love that 'liberación' can translate as deliverance, release, and rescue. seems appropriate for their situation. i'm sure the money was nice but eventually you figure out you're definitely going nowhere

modern_capitalism.txt

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

No offense to Primo and Epico because I'm sure they tried their best with the lovely gimmicks they were eternally saddled with, but weren't they purely brought back in as a gesture to Carlos Colon when they inducted him into the Hall of Fame?

Benne
Sep 2, 2011

STOP DOING HEROIN

Jerusalem posted:

No offense to Primo and Epico because I'm sure they tried their best with the lovely gimmicks they were eternally saddled with, but weren't they purely brought back in as a gesture to Carlos Colon when they inducted him into the Hall of Fame?

They were brought in several years before Carlos got inducted, but yeah, I think WWE just kept them around as a favor to the family despite giving them the worst bottom-of-the-card gimmicks.

Shayna Baszler
Oct 24, 2001

i'll always take care of you
Muldoon
looks like the colons, have evacuated

bradzilla
Oct 15, 2004

The Colons have been in WWE for like 10 years. They were the Colons, then Los Matadores, then the Shining Stars, now the Colons again. I might even be missing another bad gimmick in there.

Mulaney Power Move
Dec 30, 2004

Their best gimmick was as matadors with a midget in a bull costume but then they took away the midget.

Mulaney Power Move
Dec 30, 2004

Then they grew goatees and briefly became heels before being put in the hyperbolic chamber and coming out as puerto ricans

Mulaney Power Move
Dec 30, 2004

johnnycash.hurt.mp3

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Benne posted:

They were brought in several years before Carlos got inducted, but yeah, I think WWE just kept them around as a favor to the family despite giving them the worst bottom-of-the-card gimmicks.

poo poo, I actually thought I remembered them being released, going back to Puerto Rico for awhile and then getting rehired around the time Carlos was inducted. They were just around the entire time? Good Lord.

Grendels Dad
Mar 5, 2011

Popular culture has passed you by.
I feel sorry for Primo especially because he's the Chavo to Carlito's Eddie, just adjusted for inflation. At least Carlito sniffed the Main Event a few times.

That Dang Dad
Apr 23, 2003

Well I am
over-fucking-whelmed...
Young Orc
Regarding Writer/Vince/HHH chat earlier in the thread, I have a stupid question:

Do you think WWE could, if they so chose, hire the showrunner of a successful "prestige TV" show to come do a "season" of WWE and help unfuck all the dumb writing and bad planning? Like would the skills translate? I'm thinking, like, could you throw some money at Game of Thrones' David Benioff and have him point WWE in the right direction? I mean, he runs a show with like 50 main characters where the whole point is people fighting and betraying each other. Do you think that would make him able to write WWE better?

If not an outside showrunner, who would you have replace HHH/Vince as the heads of Creative?

Go RV!
Jun 19, 2008

Uglier on the inside.

There's no reason why they couldn't, except for the fact that from what I've heard, Vince hates outsiders, and he's also still going to be Vince McMahon and everything flows through him. Further, Stephanie laughed at Chris Kreski for keeping track of storylines and motivations back in the Attitude Era, and I would not guess she's gotten any better.

The problems are baked into the company.

Erebus
Jul 13, 2001

Okay... Keep your head, Steve boy...

mary had a little clam posted:

Regarding Writer/Vince/HHH chat earlier in the thread, I have a stupid question:

Do you think WWE could, if they so chose, hire the showrunner of a successful "prestige TV" show to come do a "season" of WWE and help unfuck all the dumb writing and bad planning? Like would the skills translate? I'm thinking, like, could you throw some money at Game of Thrones' David Benioff and have him point WWE in the right direction? I mean, he runs a show with like 50 main characters where the whole point is people fighting and betraying each other. Do you think that would make him able to write WWE better?

If not an outside showrunner, who would you have replace HHH/Vince as the heads of Creative?

There's that story about Steph mocking the writer who tried to build a bible of character backstories, so the problem is they think all that "real" storytelling is lame stuff for babies.

In the fantasy universe where that doesn't apply: Maybe. The main issue would be regular TV guys aren't used to writing for a space where a central character might suddenly get injured and disappear for six months. Or a plot point might go over like a wet fart and the story going forward would have to change. There's a certain fluidity in storytelling to wrestling that "normal" TV showrunners wouldn't be experienced with.

They still couldn't do any worse than what's out there now, though.

Truther Vandross
Jun 17, 2008

mary had a little clam posted:

Regarding Writer/Vince/HHH chat earlier in the thread, I have a stupid question:

Do you think WWE could, if they so chose, hire the showrunner of a successful "prestige TV" show to come do a "season" of WWE and help unfuck all the dumb writing and bad planning? Like would the skills translate? I'm thinking, like, could you throw some money at Game of Thrones' David Benioff and have him point WWE in the right direction? I mean, he runs a show with like 50 main characters where the whole point is people fighting and betraying each other. Do you think that would make him able to write WWE better?

If not an outside showrunner, who would you have replace HHH/Vince as the heads of Creative?


They think they do everything better than everyone else. There's nothing that could be done to change anything until Vince is gone.

Seams
Feb 3, 2005

ROCK HARD
David Lynch for guest booker of Raw.

Failing that, maybe Wrestlemania can end with the babyface about to do their move and pin the heel but then the screen just suddenly goes black for 20 seconds followed by R-Truth shimmying across the screen as the WWE logo appears.

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pressedbunny
May 31, 2007

To A Brand New Galaxy

Erebus posted:

Or a plot point might go over like a wet fart and the story going forward would have to change.
Something not getting over has rarely stopped them from just repeating it until it does.

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