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YOLOsubmarine
Oct 19, 2004

When asked which Pokemon he evolved into, Kamara pauses.

"Motherfucking, what's that big dragon shit? That orange motherfucker. Charizard."

Auron posted:

Who gives a poo poo if it ever happened before? That's a poo poo argument. They are the match makers looking to make a higher profile fight because his division is essentially cleaned out.


Yeah there's been multiple instances where fighters have been open about their purse not exactly being their pay; Cowboy has come forward on multiple occasions IIRC.

Yes, DJ wants to make money, then loving fight somebody that's going to make you more money and/or help your brand.

A fighter saying "my purse does not equal my pay" doesn't mean that all fighters also get those locker room bonuses, or in the same amount. The UFC intentionally keeps fighter pay obscure and uses those bonuses to discourage fighters collectively advocating for higher pay. Nobody knows what anyone makes, but everyone knows that Dana is a liar, all the time.

And it wasn't an argument, it was a question.

Skip My Posts posted:

at least you've moved on to accepting that he's ducking him

I've never said otherwise. I think h'd rather get his record against an easy touch and the UFC hasn't done enough to dissuade him otherwise because they don't really give a poo poo about flyweight. I think he'd probably fight TJ after he gets the record, but maybe not. But given how many champions try to avoid deserving guys in their own division I can't get too incensed about a guy not wanting a tough fight against a guy who has never even fought in his weight class.

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A Salty Affair
Oct 9, 2012

The best possible ending to all of this is Ray "Borg" Borg dunking on DJ and killing the streak

Skip My Posts
Aug 15, 2005

by FactsAreUseless

big money big clit posted:




I've never said otherwise. I think h'd rather get his record against an easy touch and the UFC hasn't done enough to dissuade him otherwise because they don't really give a poo poo about flyweight. I think he'd probably fight TJ after he gets the record, but maybe not. But given how many champions try to avoid deserving guys in their own division I can't get too incensed about a guy not wanting a tough fight against a guy who has never even fought in his weight class.

fair enough but i dunno why people are so invested in counting mighty mouse's money for him

Auron
Jan 10, 2002
<img alt="" border="0" src="https://fi.somethingawful.com/customtitles/title-auron.jpg"/><br/>Drunken Robot Rage

Scrapez posted:

So since Cowboy got some extra money that means MM will too? I have a hard time believing that especially given the fact that Dana and the UFC aren't particularly fond of MM since he doesn't follow along like a yes man with their plans.

The TJ fight isn't going to make him more money, that's the point everyone is making. The TJ fight isn't going to help his brand if he loses it and it may not help even if he wins because TJ isn't a marquee name. It has awful risk/reward which is the point.

And call it ducking or whatever the hell you want. If someone turns down a fight for monetary reasons, I have a hard time calling that "ducking." Is McGregor ducking every UFC fighter because he's going to fight Mayweather for gobs of cash?

Thanks for admitting he's ducking, that'll be all


so have we heard anything on when Cody is supposed to return so TJ can finally get a fight?

Auron fucked around with this message at 17:54 on Jun 30, 2017

YOLOsubmarine
Oct 19, 2004

When asked which Pokemon he evolved into, Kamara pauses.

"Motherfucking, what's that big dragon shit? That orange motherfucker. Charizard."

Skip My Posts posted:

fair enough but i dunno why people are so invested in counting mighty mouse's money for him

I don't really care about his money except insofar as money is a good motivator and if properly motivated he'd probably fight TJ and it would be a good fight. But the UFC is instead going with their standard tactic having a fat red faced blowhard call one of their longest reigning champions ever a stupid lying coward who should just shut up and do what they tell him, and so here we are.

Work Friend Keven
Oct 24, 2015

I'M A BIG STUPID IDIOT WHO GETS TRIGGERED FROM THE WORDS SPORTS BALL AND HAS SHIT OPINIONS ABOUT CARD GAMES. ALSO I SAID I WAS GOING TO QUIT HEARTHSTONE OUT OF SPITE OF A TAIWANESE WINNING THE CHAMPIONSHIP SO REPORT ME IF YOU SEE ME POST IN A HS THREAD
He's actually the shortest reigning champion.

YOLOsubmarine
Oct 19, 2004

When asked which Pokemon he evolved into, Kamara pauses.

"Motherfucking, what's that big dragon shit? That orange motherfucker. Charizard."

Auron posted:

so have we heard anything on when Cody is supposed to return so TJ can finally get a fight?

He could fight someone else.

Skip My Posts
Aug 15, 2005

by FactsAreUseless

big money big clit posted:

He could fight someone else.

he was gonna but the guy ducked him

YOLOsubmarine
Oct 19, 2004

When asked which Pokemon he evolved into, Kamara pauses.

"Motherfucking, what's that big dragon shit? That orange motherfucker. Charizard."

Work Friend Keven posted:

He's actually the shortest reigning champion.

Never seen his dong, can't confirm.

YOLOsubmarine
Oct 19, 2004

When asked which Pokemon he evolved into, Kamara pauses.

"Motherfucking, what's that big dragon shit? That orange motherfucker. Charizard."

Skip My Posts posted:

he was gonna but the guy ducked him

There are only two other men in the 125 to 135 pound divisions combined? This is a problem!

CommonShore
Jun 6, 2014

A true renaissance man


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CommonShore fucked around with this message at 18:22 on Jun 30, 2017

Skip My Posts
Aug 15, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
He should fight ray borg

tesilential
Nov 22, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
Lot of MMA noobs in here today.



Scrapez posted:

And call it ducking or whatever the hell you want. If someone turns down a fight for monetary reasons, I have a hard time calling that "ducking." Is McGregor ducking every UFC fighter because he's going to fight

It would be ducking if it weren't a much harder challenge.

It'd be like if mcgregor cleaned our LW, then exchamp Woodley drops down and McGregor demands to fight Ross Pearson instead.

Auron
Jan 10, 2002
<img alt="" border="0" src="https://fi.somethingawful.com/customtitles/title-auron.jpg"/><br/>Drunken Robot Rage

tesilential posted:

Lot of MMA noobs in here today.


It would be ducking if it weren't a much harder challenge.

It'd be like if mcgregor cleaned our LW, then exchamp Woodley drops down and McGregor demands to fight Ross Pearson instead.

Thanks for defining ducking with another great example of what a duck would be

YOLOsubmarine
Oct 19, 2004

When asked which Pokemon he evolved into, Kamara pauses.

"Motherfucking, what's that big dragon shit? That orange motherfucker. Charizard."

tesilential posted:

It'd be like if mcgregor cleaned our LW, then exchamp Woodley drops down and McGregor demands to fight Ross Pearson instead.

What's crazy is you calling other people MMA noobs (who still says this) while implying that Conor Mcgregor will ever defend a belt. But really, Conor would absolutely say Woodley hasn't earned his shot and demand a year off to play 1v1 vs Lebron on PPV and then fight Nate Diaz again on his return.

Auron
Jan 10, 2002
<img alt="" border="0" src="https://fi.somethingawful.com/customtitles/title-auron.jpg"/><br/>Drunken Robot Rage

big money big clit posted:

What's crazy is you calling other people MMA noobs (who still says this) while implying that Conor Mcgregor will ever defend a belt. But really, Conor would absolutely say Woodley hasn't earned his shot and demand a year off to play 1v1 vs Lebron on PPV and then fight Nate Diaz again on his return.

Connor would duck Woodley because Woodley sucks and is a bore and nobody wants to see Woodley ever fight. Who wouldn't want to play LeBron 1v1 on PPV or fight Heavyweight contender Nate Diaz for the third time for a bajillion dollars.

Skip My Posts
Aug 15, 2005

by FactsAreUseless
im curious to see how dana promotes this fight. will he eventually switch from bitterly making GBS threads on it and start talking up borg as a legit threat to mm?

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Nov 11, 2013

Work Friend Keven posted:

He's actually the shortest reigning champion.

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Dec 3, 2004

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Work Friend Keven posted:

He's actually the shortest reigning champion.

chaleski
Apr 25, 2014

Mighty Mouse being called a coward might be the dumbest thing I've read in a while

tesilential
Nov 22, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
I find it funny that some of the same people who think that 2 inches of height makes all the difference in a fight are the people stating that a number one contender dropping down from a bigger weight class is not a legitimate contender at a smaller weight class. That's leaving out the fact that 125 doesn't HAVE any contenders.

The next best guy is Henri Cejudo.

Scrapez
Feb 27, 2004

The Assassination of Dana White's Character by The Coward Demetrious Johnson

YOLOsubmarine
Oct 19, 2004

When asked which Pokemon he evolved into, Kamara pauses.

"Motherfucking, what's that big dragon shit? That orange motherfucker. Charizard."

tesilential posted:

I find it funny that some of the same people who think that 2 inches of height makes all the difference in a fight are the people stating that a number one contender dropping down from a bigger weight class is not a legitimate contender at a smaller weight class. That's leaving out the fact that 125 doesn't HAVE any contenders.

The next best guy is Henri Cejudo.

Sure, as long as you assume that the guy who has never fought at 125 can make the weight without significantly diminishing his ability to fight. Luke Rockhold would also be a really great contender at 170 under this assumption.

Skip My Posts
Aug 15, 2005

by FactsAreUseless

big money big clit posted:

Sure, as long as you assume that the guy who has never fought at 125 can make the weight without significantly diminishing his ability to fight. Luke Rockhold would also be a really great contender at 170 under this assumption.

lmao luke is a huge 185 and tj is a smaller 135

YOLOsubmarine
Oct 19, 2004

When asked which Pokemon he evolved into, Kamara pauses.

"Motherfucking, what's that big dragon shit? That orange motherfucker. Charizard."

Anthony Pettis wasnt a big lightweight but he still hosed up his cut to feather. Trying to eyeball who can and can't comfortably make which weight doesn't work very well.

Auron
Jan 10, 2002
<img alt="" border="0" src="https://fi.somethingawful.com/customtitles/title-auron.jpg"/><br/>Drunken Robot Rage

who's luke rockhold

is he that idiot that bitches about middleweight being a mess but want to fight old guys and a heavyweight?

Novum
May 26, 2012

That's how we roll
Anthony Johnson would be amazing at 125

tesilential
Nov 22, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

big money big clit posted:

Anthony Pettis wasnt a big lightweight but he still hosed up his cut to feather. Trying to eyeball who can and can't comfortably make which weight doesn't work very well.

I agree, I really have no idea if TJ can make 125.

I do however, know with complete certainty, that Borg sometimes can and sometimes can't.

Neither guy is a lock. One guy is at least a real person.

YOLOsubmarine
Oct 19, 2004

When asked which Pokemon he evolved into, Kamara pauses.

"Motherfucking, what's that big dragon shit? That orange motherfucker. Charizard."

tesilential posted:

Neither guy is a lock. One guy is at least a real person.

Debatable. TJ looks like he's made of slowly melting wax.

Skip My Posts
Aug 15, 2005

by FactsAreUseless

big money big clit posted:

Anthony Pettis wasnt a big lightweight but he still hosed up his cut to feather. Trying to eyeball who can and can't comfortably make which weight doesn't work very well.

lol

YOLOsubmarine
Oct 19, 2004

When asked which Pokemon he evolved into, Kamara pauses.

"Motherfucking, what's that big dragon shit? That orange motherfucker. Charizard."

TJ can definitely make 125 because he's small, which is why even smaller guys like John Lineker and Ray Borg never struggle to make 125.

Auron
Jan 10, 2002
<img alt="" border="0" src="https://fi.somethingawful.com/customtitles/title-auron.jpg"/><br/>Drunken Robot Rage

big money big clit posted:

TJ can definitely make 125 because he's small, which is why even smaller guys like John Lineker and Ray Borg never struggle to make 125.

TJ surrounds himself with professionals (Ludwig is questionable). Ray Borg is a guy (I think) who probably can't afford the best coaching and John Lineker is brazillian

tesilential
Nov 22, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
We all understand MM is great but the only legitimate reason for wanting him to fight a lesser opponent is so he has a better chance at breaking the record.

I get why he wants to. I don't get why you dorks wanna see him crush another can who won't even be in the UFC in 12 months.

YOLOsubmarine
Oct 19, 2004

When asked which Pokemon he evolved into, Kamara pauses.

"Motherfucking, what's that big dragon shit? That orange motherfucker. Charizard."

Where is the post where someone said "I would rather see MM fight Ray Borg than TJ Dillashaw"?

Auron
Jan 10, 2002
<img alt="" border="0" src="https://fi.somethingawful.com/customtitles/title-auron.jpg"/><br/>Drunken Robot Rage

Lets stop talking about MM and start talking about relevant fighters and weight classes, this is getting tiresome.

How about that WOMEN'S 125 lbs division?

chaleski
Apr 25, 2014

Auron posted:

Lets stop talking about MM and start talking about relevant fighters and weight classes, this is getting tiresome.

How about that WOMEN'S 125 lbs division?

Roxanne Modaferri is gonna be a UFC champion

Duzzy Funlop
Jan 13, 2010

Hi there, would you like to try some spicy products?

chaleski posted:

Roxanne Modaferri is gonna be a UFC champion

:3:

Skip My Posts
Aug 15, 2005

by FactsAreUseless

big money big clit posted:

TJ can definitely make 125 because he's small, which is why even smaller guys like John Lineker and Ray Borg never struggle to make 125.

Your only defense to tj not being able to make weight is to bring up other random fighters

YOLOsubmarine
Oct 19, 2004

When asked which Pokemon he evolved into, Kamara pauses.

"Motherfucking, what's that big dragon shit? That orange motherfucker. Charizard."

Skip My Posts posted:

Your only defense to tj not being able to make weight is to bring up other random fighters

Your argument is "well, we don't know he can't" which is also true of a lot of guys who've never fought at 125.

Maybe he can. Who knows? No one, because he's never done it.

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InfiniteZero
Sep 11, 2004

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chaleski posted:

Roxanne Modaferri is gonna be a UFC champion



She can do branded UFC Twitch streams with Mighty Mouse. Maybe play against Ray Borg.

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