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Carmant posted:Have they ever said why the glamour system is so unintuitive. In both of their other MMOs you literally just equip the gear and click a button and bam thats what you look like now. You can even use gear from other classes as an appearance. Was it some dumb server thing or ps3 limitation or holdover from the 1.0 engine. essentially they're so terrified of players losing data that they are hamstrung in what they can do
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I figured it was designed how it was so that crafters could make money on glamour prisms. Does their database not allow the possibility of players having just a "cosmetic" gear tab? Anything you wear in that tab would just overwrite what you're wearing in your "real" gear slots and you're done. I think that's how EQ2 does it? But that'd also cut out glamour prisms (fine by me, as a non-crafter).
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A vanity tab would still be lovely since it wouldn't alleviate the need for retainers full of bullshit you might want to glamour someday. Diablo 3 has the best system where anything you bind gets added to a list of available glamours you can apply for a small fee. In FF14 it could be a right click option "recover for glamour" that destroys the gear and adds it to your list. I'd expect that to be cleaner in a database than discrete pieces of gear with all of their inventory slot/materia/soulbind/durability data.
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Boogalo posted:A vanity tab would still be lovely since it wouldn't alleviate the need for retainers full of bullshit you might want to glamour someday. Diablo 3 has the best system where anything you bind gets added to a list of available glamours you can apply for a small fee. In FF14 it could be a right click option "recover for glamour" that destroys the gear and adds it to your list. I'd expect that to be cleaner in a database than discrete pieces of gear with all of their inventory slot/materia/soulbind/durability data. This is also how WoW works as of Legion. Go to transmog dude, select item you want your gear to look like, done.
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Jun 30, 2017 16:43
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Hell yeah, shuffled into two lines and got the Khloe minion.
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I'm not saying the extreme primals need to all be as hard as Thordan Ex was for pugs, but being harder than Bismarck seems like a fair metric to aspire to. The weakness change undoubtedly has something to do with it though since these fights don't seem to have meaningful dps checks. Though surprisingly the SSS for Scholar for both requires about 2100 dps.
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I really wish we could glamour gear from other classes. I want my samurai to look armored. No good reason for not allowing it, as tanks (for example) can already look like casters because most of the cosmetic stuff looks like cloth.
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Philonius posted:I really wish we could glamour gear from other classes. I want my samurai to look armored. There's absolutely no good reason for it because you can even see the armor combinations using the Try On feature.
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Philonius posted:I really wish we could glamour gear from other classes. I want my samurai to look armored. The Omega raid is apparently going to drop some Samurai style armor for everyone.
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Jun 30, 2017 17:09
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I've seen a few armoured-looking Samurai out there. Nothing like full-plate tin-can like tanks can get, but more armoured than most monk gear would look.
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Jun 30, 2017 17:11
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I just want lamellar Shogun armor.
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Orcs and Ostriches posted:I've seen a few armoured-looking Samurai out there. Nothing like full-plate tin-can like tanks can get, but more armoured than most monk gear would look. isn't there a pvp chest for monks which looks like a metal breastplate only chiseled into awesome abs form?
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Rhymenoserous posted:isn't there a pvp chest for monks which looks like a metal breastplate only chiseled into awesome abs form? It's got a bit of a leathery texture to it, so you'd have to use a metallic dye in order to have the shiniest pecs.
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 Play a Paladin today!
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Ah yes after a whole expansion of repression the Paladins have their day. They'll probably keep it too, while WARs discuss the marginal changes to them that patches bring.
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it's going to be Most Excellent when SE sees the current situation and responds by lowering Holy Spirit's potency, making Spear and Spire even worse, and no other changes
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Rhymenoserous posted:isn't there a pvp chest for monks which looks like a metal breastplate only chiseled into awesome abs form? Metal breastplate? Nah, it's only got a bit of metal on the shoulder and elbows. 
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Gnath torso.
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Bleu posted:
It's not optional in Savage, but you can get away with it in normal. Speaking of, it turns out that if you unsync A12S, you don't get enough LB gauge to use tank LB3 before Divine Judgment, so every non-tank dies. Oops! (e: well unless you wait in the add phase for a long time but pffft) Bobfly posted:Gnath torso. I would wear the Gnath torso forever if the goddamn shell didn't clip into the haft of my axe World War Mammories fucked around with this message at 18:24 on Jun 30, 2017 |
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You're supposed to do that, it's not optional.
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YoshiOfYellow posted:
Is this accurate? I never got my paladin too high, but this looks manageable.
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I like the numerical system so it's easier to notate rotations.
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Alternatively, it's actually fun and good being able to go into an EX primal and actually clear it with a party finder group after a few wipes, instead of trying ten times over a week and timing out each time because the fight expects a static communicating over voice chat
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Evil Fluffy posted:I'd love to know what the deal was with that plotline. Like did they always plan to have it go full Poochy on us or did they just have to scrap it so it wouldn't be a loose end* when Stormblood hit? It definitely felt weird. They might be setting up for a far off plot point, sorta like how Omega was first brought up during A Realm Reborn and then barely mentioned until the lead in to Stormblood. It certainly seemed like they were putting a pin on the subject of "What's happening in the Reflections" for us to keep in mind.
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OB_Juan posted:Is this accurate? I never got my paladin too high, but this looks manageable. Apparently you want to delay Fight or Flight until right before your first Goring Blade so you can fit in two Goring's and get Requiescat off right at the last second of the buff. Other than that though it's pretty much spot on.
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thordan was the only unreasonably difficult primal in heavensward, and coincidentally his was also the best fight. i didn't even have a static back then, by the way. if every party finder group you go into spontaneously combusts, you may want to search within your own heart. namaste.
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launch ravana was also pretty rough, i guess, but that was more trying to do it in leveling gear than anything else
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I'm probably going to hit BLM 68 sometime tomorrow, and I've been trying to figure out how the trait for Flare affects the aoe rotation at that point. Am I correct in thinking you'd want to Fire 2/4 (depending on mob count) twice, Flare with your last heart, then Flare again with your remaining mana (then Convert Flare if it's up)? Or am I totally off track? Also more generally when do you throw out Thundercloud procs while AoEing, and how many targets do you want before you switch from Thunder 3 to 4? Ciaphas fucked around with this message at 18:56 on Jun 30, 2017 |
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YoshiOfYellow posted:Apparently you want to delay Fight or Flight until right before your first Goring Blade so you can fit in two Goring's and get Requiescat off right at the last second of the buff. Other than that though it's pretty much spot on. Yep, if you FoF first, you're missing that last Goring and Requiescat for just 100 more total potency on the first Fast and Riot Blade. Together, not each. Too much of a sacrifice when you consider a FoF Goring Blade alone is worth an additional 167.
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The SB launch Extreme Primals are significantly more difficult than Whale EX but a little easier than Ravana EX which I feel is a good place to start for EX fights in a new expansion.
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Ciaphas posted:I'm probably going to hit BLM 68 sometime tomorrow, and I've been trying to figure out how the trait for Flare affects the aoe rotation at that point. Am I correct in thinking you'd want to Fire 2/4 (depending on mob count) twice, Flare with your last heart, then Flare again with your remaining mana (then Convert Flare if it's up)? Or am I totally off track? That's the most efficient way to use your MP, but I've heard some debate about whether it's worth the bother of using Fire 2 at all, rather than just jumping straight to Flare and going through the entire cycle faster. I'm not an expert though.
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YoshiOfYellow posted:
I love everything about this 
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Evil Fluffy posted:I'd love to know what the deal was with that plotline. Like did they always plan to have it go full Poochy on us or did they just have to scrap it so it wouldn't be a loose end* when Stormblood hit? It does seem a little bit abrupt but it does serve a few purposes: 1. Gives a little bit more context to the Ascian's actions 2. Sets up the idea of parallel universes which almost certainly will be mined for content at some point in the future 3. Puts another couple datapoints into a slow-burning metaplot that our own power and ability to constantly destroy all challengers may actually have some negative affect on the fabric of reality, considering the WoDs are basically us after being successful for even longer 4. Introduces Heavensward-version Alisae as a proper red mage shitwrecker and all around Best Scion XIV's plotline is notable for keeping future plots on the back burner for long periods of time before they actually become the main focus, occasionally flipping back to remind you that they exist - consider all the buildup to Stormblood. The concept of Ala Mhigo and it's occupation was first being introduced as a concept way back in 2013 when we're all taking our first characters through Little Ala Mhigo. Follow that up with the end of 2.5 with Ilberd bringing the Ala Mhigo plot back into focus, prompting our flight to Ishgard, then a brief touch upon that plot with in HW when we go back and get Raubahn, and then allusions to it in 3.4's MSQ before 3.5 is pretty much all about that because now we're going into the Ala Mhigo expansion. The thing with the WoD plot line was that it wasn't a WoD plot line - it was an Ascian plot line, the longest plot arc passing through everything, and it was basically there just to remind you that the Ascians exist, and are assholes, and the entire world itself still has some serious problems that we will need to solve beyond which Evil Empire is currently causing problems on a given continent in this expansion. Fake Edit: Nostalgia4Infinity posted:I love everything about this "Is it safe to come out yet?" "NO." Makes me giggle every time.
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Doma Castle was a cool dungeon. Is it me or was the final boss a big step up in difficulty for MSQ bosses? My party didn't wipe but there was a ton of damage going out, we were all low on HP at points, and all the mechanics going out really required you to pay attention and think quickly. It almost felt like it could've been a normal mode Alexander boss. I like the trend SB seems to be showing of ramping up the MSQ bosses to be more involved, they were way too braindead in the past.
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Clarste posted:That's the most efficient way to use your MP, but I've heard some debate about whether it's worth the bother of using Fire 2 at all, rather than just jumping straight to Flare and going through the entire cycle faster. I'm not an expert though. I've also heard debate about whether using T4 is worthwhile at all. Honestly I'm a little tempted to just sit down and math it out myself. (Fun fact: at something like 28 enemies, F2 is actually more potency/second than Flare because of the falloff.)
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Tensokuu posted:Is rather content be clearable and slightly easy than slam my balls in a drawer hard to just barely squeak out a win. If that's the content you want then great - wait for savage - but EX primal should be able to be cleared by any non-brain dead group. What are you talking about? They already are able to be cleared by any non brain dead group. They're a walk over and have been since everything after Thordan, dying in 2-4 pulls from scratch The problem is you are playing with brain dead people or are bad.
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vOv posted:I've also heard debate about whether using T4 is worthwhile at all. Honestly I'm a little tempted to just sit down and math it out myself. There is a cap on the number of enemies an ability can actually hit, and I'm certain it is less than 28.
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YoshiOfYellow posted:
lmao, beautiful.
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numerrik posted:So thread, I am playing through 2.x stuff to farm the ponies, and was wondering besides the ponies/coils/24 mans is there any major 2.x content worth hitting up, or is everything else just xp fodder for the classes I haven't touched yet? I really enjoyed the delivery moogle quests. Bunch of side quests where you follow up on minor NPCs. Plus you get a cute hat and shiny subligar.
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