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Do you HAVE to read the Horus Heresy books in order to really enjoy/understand them?
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Jun 28, 2017 05:39
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rocket_man38 posted:Do you HAVE to read the Horus Heresy books in order to really enjoy/understand them? Not at all especially if you like kinda know who Horus and the Primarchs are so you aren't just like uh who if someone's naming dropping someone important into a scene. There are however a handful of novels that cover story arcs that should be read in a particular order like the first 3, the Thousand son/Prospero Burns/wolf books/ the two about the angels and uh know no fear/mark of calth all that poo poo.
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Jun 28, 2017 05:48
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rocket_man38 posted:Do you HAVE to read the Horus Heresy books in order to really enjoy/understand them? The first three tell a pretty connected story, so those should be read in order. But you don't have to read them first. The same with Descent of Angels and Fall of Angels, they tell the story of the schism in the Dark Angels and you want to read Descent before Fall. There's also sort of sub series about the Ultramarines. Know no Fear starts the story of the Ultramarines and Guilliman's involvement in the heresy at Ultramar. That stories continues on in Mark of Calth and Unremembered Empire and so on. Beyond that, not really
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Jun 28, 2017 05:51
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Not really, it helps at times to maybe understand some of the background of what's happening and they sometimes give enough little quick summaries or the characters themselves have no idea either on what's happening.
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Jun 28, 2017 05:52
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Vadoc posted:Not really, it helps at times to maybe understand some of the background of what's happening and they sometimes give enough little quick summaries or the characters themselves have no idea either on what's happening. There's sort of three basic timeframes for HH era stories: Leading up to the Heresy, or "where were you when poo poo hit the fan". We have "betrayal happened and demons are real" from the POV of at least two Loyalist legions". now. Reactions to the Heresy. Loyalists hit back, traitors scheme. Aren't we at Terra yet ? The Heresy is an established fact, stories happen in that context.
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Jun 28, 2017 05:59
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mllaneza posted:There's sort of three basic timeframes for HH era stories: As of master of mankind we are up to the traitor legions fight over mars and establishing the siege of terra.
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Jun 28, 2017 12:11
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At this rate we'll have the dubious pleasure of dying by the thousands at the Eternity Gate in the actual 30th millennium before any actual books covering the siege are released.
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Jun 28, 2017 22:08
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Have any Jews ever shown up in the 30th or 40th millennium? I know that they inexplicably appear in the later Dune books, and since this series cribs so much from that I got to wondering...
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Jun 29, 2017 05:38
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Personal theory: the Navigators are Jews Their secretive mutant bloodline evolves the ability to navigate the warp late in the year 10,000 But, spoiler; they've always had a third eye on their foreheads, they've just managed to distract everyone from them so far
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Jun 29, 2017 05:41
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One Legged Cat posted:Personal theory: the Navigators are Jews 5
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Jun 29, 2017 05:50
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This thread went Reddit real fast. Never go full Reddit.
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Jun 29, 2017 13:42
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Warpcraft is actually practical Kabbalah.
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Jun 29, 2017 17:03
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Hot Dog Day #82 posted:Have any Jews ever shown up in the 30th or 40th millennium? I know that they inexplicably appear in the later Dune books, and since this series cribs so much from that I got to wondering... I think by the 40th millennium cultures are so homogenized etc. that such distinctions are long extinct. I could be wrong though.
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Jun 29, 2017 17:44
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rocket_man38 posted:I think by the 40th millennium cultures are so homogenized etc. that such distinctions are long extinct. I could be wrong though. Catholics appear by implication in a couple of the Horus Heresy novels (as "Catherics") but that's about it for real-world religions getting talked about in 40k. Dune is a different kettle of fish. Jews appearing in that series isn't so inexplicible once you understand that the Fremen and Tleilaxu are Muslims just without ever using that exact word.
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Jun 29, 2017 18:09
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Cythereal posted:Catholics appear by implication in a couple of the Horus Heresy novels (as "Catherics") but that's about it for real-world religions getting talked about in 40k. Fremen practice a form of Zensunni I think, so it's explicitly stated. 
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Jun 29, 2017 18:27
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Man, I finished Galaxy in Flames the other day and it's such a shame they couldn't get a better author to do the momentousness of it all justice.
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Jun 29, 2017 19:38
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Hot Dog Day #82 posted:Have any Jews ever shown up in the 30th or 40th millennium? I know that they inexplicably appear in the later Dune books, and since this series cribs so much from that I got to wondering... From what I've seen, this is the closest you're getting.
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Jun 29, 2017 20:51
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Lead Psychiatry posted:From what I've seen, this is the closest you're getting. Janissaries are/were Ottoman, unless I'm missing something.
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Jun 29, 2017 21:16
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Shroud posted:Janissaries are/were Ottoman, unless I'm missing something. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maccabees
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Jun 29, 2017 21:18
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Dark Crusade featured a human turned Necron Pariah named Tomas Macabee.
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Jun 29, 2017 21:30
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Emperors Text to Speech are looking for female VA talent. https://youtu.be/Z3fWzeR5828 Hope this means they plan on having more permanent female characters in future episodes. MariusLecter fucked around with this message at 03:09 on Jun 30, 2017 |
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Jun 30, 2017 03:07
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Does anyone have a link for the asoiaf-40k story? Turns out the link from earlier is the thread is dead now.
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Jun 30, 2017 14:44
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The new Helsreach is up: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jahCLBmqHnI
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Jun 30, 2017 17:29
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So, got a question. Last year I got through round 1 of that short story competition BL held. I've not heard anything since. Any fellow goons been in the same boat as me?
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Jun 30, 2017 19:18
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Pendent posted:The new Helsreach is up: Just watched all six parts. Thanks for posting.
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Jun 30, 2017 19:24
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Cooked Auto posted:Does anyone have a link for the asoiaf-40k story? Turns out the link from earlier is the thread is dead now. I dunno how thorough this is cause I never got around to reading it despite having the bookmark for months, but try this.
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Jun 30, 2017 22:33
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Pendent posted:The new Helsreach is up: So he's been using his kinect to do the mocap he then ports into Source Filmmaker? I love his dedication and that's a great DIY solution to make the videos faster.
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Jul 1, 2017 00:18
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KramFoot posted:So, got a question. Last year I got through round 1 of that short story competition BL held. I've not heard anything since. Any fellow goons been in the same boat as me? Congratulations, they didn't like my 500 word sample.
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Jul 1, 2017 00:25
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Arcsquad12 posted:So he's been using his kinect to do the mocap he then ports into Source Filmmaker? I love his dedication and that's a great DIY solution to make the videos faster. This dude has literally been making the best 40k animations out there. It's incredibly remarkable.
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Jul 1, 2017 00:47
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Pendent posted:This dude has literally been making the best 40k animations out there. It's incredibly remarkable. Seriously. I hope he gets a job out of all of this, or at least puts these videos up as part of a demo reel; ABD loves them too and has been pimping them out on his Facebook page whenever they get released.
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Jul 1, 2017 01:58
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Graham McNeil is bad at prose
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Jul 1, 2017 02:27
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Hot Dog Day #82 posted:Seriously. I hope he gets a job out of all of this, or at least puts these videos up as part of a demo reel; ABD loves them too and has been pimping them out on his Facebook page whenever they get released. I hope GW pays him to direct a Gaunts Ghosts animated series. It's not HBO, but I'd definitely be fine with seeing those stories in this style.
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Jul 1, 2017 02:41
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Moose_Knuck posted:Warpcraft is actually practical Kabbalah. I mean if you want to keep the metaphor going, The Emperor is a literal ubermensch who appears and unites his people in a race-centric fascist state after they had experienced a period of poverty and suffering following a giant war they fought in and survived but certainly didn't win, and he was building a webway connection in order to make the navigators (space Jews) obsolete and to be done away with in his gene-pure ideal utopia. SEE WHERE I'M GOING WITH THIS
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Jul 1, 2017 06:22
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One Legged Cat posted:
Please don't invoke GodEmperor's law
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Jul 1, 2017 07:49
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Lead Psychiatry posted:I dunno how thorough this is cause I never got around to reading it despite having the bookmark for months, but try this. Sadly it's none of those.
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Jul 1, 2017 11:19
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One Legged Cat posted:I mean if you want to keep the metaphor going, And then it all fell apart in corruption, incompetence, and fire. Truth in 40k.
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Jul 1, 2017 14:46
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just finished prospero burns, there's some good abnett. a wet leopard-growl
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Jul 1, 2017 17:34
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Pendent posted:The new Helsreach is up: This is my first time watching this series as well. Thank you for posting it. This is how I imagined Warhammer would be. Honestly, all of Warhammer should be animated, it just adds so much depth and gravity to the universe. I would take one of these animated shorts over a modern horror movie any day. The sense of dread is just so palpable.
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Jul 1, 2017 18:39
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Pendent posted:The new Helsreach is up: So loving good. When this series is over I hope he goes right into doing more or at least gets put in charge of something epic for GW. But who am I kidding, they'd never do something cool and awesome like that.
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Jul 1, 2017 20:13
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AndyElusive posted:So loving good. Somebody earlier was posting about how ADB was gushing about these on his facebook page. If this guy has a champion like ADB on the inside at GW I could totally see this turning into something more. On a side note I'm really glad my posting that video got more people into this series. This artist definitely deserves as much attention for his work as he can get.
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Jul 1, 2017 20:44
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