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Kurtofan posted:who's bacchus borloo EDIT: music for page 4: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRTDC9Z5UdE
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Kurtofan posted:who's bacchus
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Flowers For Algeria posted:borloo that was an easy one
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Raspberry Jam It In Me posted:What's going on with all these African interventions that France is involved in? I assume they are protecting some business interests/resource extractions? France signed defense and cooperation treaties with most of its former African colonies after their independence, so you've got a long list of assistance against rebels; a few times against other African nations (mostly against Libya). There are also a lot of protection and evacuation of French and other foreign citizens during times of unrest or civil war; and more than a few participation to peacekeeping. There has been some shady stuff (it's basically unavoidable) but the only thing that can really be qualified of protecting resource extraction interests was the defense of that railroad in Mauritania. So for a list of French interventions in Africa after 1962: -1964: put an end to the coup in Gabon -1968-1972: fight against Libya-backed rebels in Chad -1977-1978: fight against the Polisario Front in Mauritania to secure a railroad route and free kidnapped French citizens -1978: new fight against Libya-backed rebels in Chad -1979: put a (temporary) end to Bokassa's Central African Empire, restored Central African Republic -1983: again, fight against Libya-backed rebels in Chad -1986: destruction of an Libyan military base on Chadian territory -1986 also: thwarting attempted coup in Togo -1989: fight against Bob Denard's mercenary takeover in Comoros -1990: evacuation of foreign citizens in Gabon during a time of civil unrest -1990-1993: pushing back rebels invading Rwanda from Uganda, until negotiation of a truce between rebels and government (in 1994, the murder of Rwandan president by shooting down his plane would restart the civil war and turn into a full-fledged genocide) -1991: protection of Djibouti against attempted Ethiopian invasion -1992-1993: participation in UN-peacekeeping in Somali -1993: evacuation of foreign citizens from Zaire (DR Congo, Kinshasa) after civil unrest leading to the murder of French ambassador -1994: evacuation of European citizens from Rwanda during civil war, participation to (tragically insufficient) UN peacekeeping -1995: fight against Bob Denard's new mercenary takeover of Comoros -1996: assistance to Cameroun in the Bakassi border dispute with Nigeria -1997: evacuation of foreign citizens in Congo (not-Zaire, Brazzaville) -1998: evacuation of foreign citizens and assistance to African Union peacekeeping in Guinea-Bisseau -1998: evacuation of French citizens in Congo (ex-Zaire, Kinshasa) -1999: protection of Djibouti during Eritrean-Ethiopian fight -2002-2004: peacekeeping in Cote d'Ivoire to prevent fights between northern rebels and southern loyalists and to protect foreign citizens -2003: participation to EU peacekeeping operation in Congo (ex-Zaire, Kinshasa) -2006: it had been a while: fight against Libya-backed rebels in Chad -2007: fight against rebels targeting the peacekeeping forces in Central African Republic -2008: defense of the Ndjamena airport in Chad against rebels -2008: participation to EU anti-piracy operation in the Gulf of Aden -2011: ousting of Gbagbo in Cote d'Ivoire, end of civil war -2011: intervention in Libya -2013: peacekeeping and protection of French citizens in Central African Republic against Islamic militia -2013-ongoing: intervention against jihadists in Mali at the urgent request of Malian government; this was later generalized to the entire "Sahara-Sahel band". -2013: failed attempt at rescuing a hostage in Somalia
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Our own personal South America.
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Is it true that the word nègre is equivalent to the n-word and is still in relatively common use/is not taboo-d? Cued from this blog post https://www.lrb.co.uk/blog/2016/04/01/musab-younis/n-is-for-muslim/ quote:Manuel Valls, the prime minister, was once filmed complaining there were too many dark-skinned people at a market: ‘Give me a few blancs, a few whites, a few blancos,’ he said. A senior member of the Socialist Party was expelled in 2007 after complaining about the number of black players on the French football team. For many people, Rossignol’s use of the term ‘nègre’ to condemn the way Muslim women dress demonstrated the ongoing links between anti-Muslim and anti-black prejudice in France. 
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Yes and hell the gently caress no, unless you're a black person yourself trying to reclaim the word (see: "négritude"). Rossignol deserves all the poo poo she got for using that word, especially to make that idiotic argument. Edit: Well, okay, there are several expressions using that word (like the French for "ghostwriter" that's brought up in that article, but also some pastries and stuff). Those are in a gray area at best. Edit2: https://twitter.com/leLab_E1/status/881116667211862016 "For labour minister Muriel Pénicaud, the labour code "is only designed to be a bother to businesses" Kassad fucked around with this message at 13:07 on Jul 1, 2017 |
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I think it's more comparable to "negro" in contemporary American usage - stinks of historical racism, not acceptable in polite conversation but not a career-ending slur either.
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Not when Manuel "put more whites in front of the cameras" Valls is your boss, no. Remarks like hers were still a factor in the PS crashing and burning the way it did.
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my favorite old timey racist moment was when when in an interview JP guerlain said he worked like a negro on his perfume https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfooMyKM84o very awkward for the interviewer lol Kurtofan fucked around with this message at 13:32 on Jul 1, 2017 |
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Jul 1, 2017 13:26
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You forgot the next sentence: "I don't know if the negros have ever worked all that much"
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Yeah my bad, it's almost like he realized he said something very racist and is trying to make it better but made it infinitely worse
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Jul 1, 2017 13:38
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Is it a saying in France? My country has a similar one which is used ("I work as if I was black") but I don't know if it's connected to black people working as slaves (a bit doubtful since it's an old saying) or people geting a tan from working in the fields for a long time (since the word for "getting a tan" could be literally translated as "blackening").
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https://twitter.com/benoithamon/status/881190392246435840 Who's even left in the PS at this point?
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Barbe Rouge posted:Is it a saying in France? My country has a similar one which is used ("I work as if I was black") but I don't know if it's connected to black people working as slaves (a bit doubtful since it's an old saying) or people geting a tan from working in the fields for a long time (since the word for "getting a tan" could be literally translated as "blackening"). Personally I've never heard it. I've heard several variants, though, with "Roman", "angel", or even "ant". That said there is allegedly a tradition in some prestigious schools, notably Polytechniques and Saint-Cyr, to call "nègre" the best student in his class and that would derive from the idea that they were the ones who worked the most. At least it's a somewhat prestigious thing rather than an insult, but still...
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Kassad posted:https://twitter.com/benoithamon/status/881190392246435840 Got my answer: https://twitter.com/jccambadelis/status/881210483285647361
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Kassad posted:https://twitter.com/benoithamon/status/881190392246435840 Is Hollande still in? Or did they kick him out for destroying the party?
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Nope, they gave him a painting.
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Macron inaugurated the freshly opened Paris Rennes LGV with a speech about how we're now past ambitious infrastructure projects and we need to work on "la mobilité du quotidien" with no further explanation. What is he on about ? Being Macron I assume he's not talking about overhauling the TER or RER network but rather on a cool idea where everyone is an uber.
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unpacked robinhood posted:Macron inaugurated the freshly opened Paris Rennes LGV with a speech about how we're now past ambitious infrastructure projects and we need to work on "la mobilité du quotidien" with no further explanation. Privatizing roads in major cities and auctioning them to the highest bidder
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unpacked robinhood posted:Macron inaugurated the freshly opened Paris Rennes LGV with a speech about how we're now past ambitious infrastructure projects and we need to work on "la mobilité du quotidien" with no further explanation. La pensée complexe maybe
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unpacked robinhood posted:Macron inaugurated the freshly opened Paris Rennes LGV with a speech about how we're now past ambitious infrastructure projects and we need to work on "la mobilité du quotidien" with no further explanation. Is Macron the French Cuomo?
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I suspect Macron will try to implement economic policies along the lines of Pinochet et al. You know, those policies that have repeatedly proven themselves to be destructive.
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Kassad posted:Nope, they gave him a painting. This is an especially cruel article.
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x-post from suck zone: https://twitter.com/evepeyser/statu...r%3D133%23pti27
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Why does France keep electing people it hates? It doesn't seem to matter who they elect it's always milquetoast neo liberal.
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Flowers For Algeria posted:This is an especially cruel article. I speak fairly limited French, but I know enough to read the newspapers and to interpret the stories in a fairly literal way. I know I'm missing a lot of the nuance. Is "François Hollande n’a jamais témoigné le moindre penchant pour les arts, excepté le cinéma et le théâtre, peut-être." a reference to his affair? I wish these were annotated. 
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unpacked robinhood posted:Macron inaugurated the freshly opened Paris Rennes LGV with a speech about how we're now past ambitious infrastructure projects and we need to work on "la mobilité du quotidien" with no further explanation. lol, you can now do Paris-Rennes (373km) in the same time you can do Rennes-Châteaubriand (61km) or Brest-Quimper (91km). I can't wait for everyone who isn't a rich Parisian to get priced out of the city and have to move somewhere awful like Saint Brieuc. Arglebargle III posted:Why does France keep electing people it hates? It doesn't seem to matter who they elect it's always milquetoast neo liberal. France hates everyone (especially themselves) so it's kinda unavoidable. Soviet Commubot fucked around with this message at 03:35 on Jul 2, 2017 |
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Condiv posted:x-post from suck zone: https://twitter.com/evepeyser/statu...r%3D133%23pti27 lol he wants to be emperor
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Lawman 0 posted:lol he wants to be emperor http://www.lci.fr/elections/emmanue...es-2029227.html
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Arglebargle III posted:Why does France keep electing people it hates? It doesn't seem to matter who they elect it's always milquetoast neo liberal. we dont like anyone
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Condiv posted:x-post from suck zone: https://twitter.com/evepeyser/statu...r%3D133%23pti27 The Fifth Republic is literally a republican monarchy, so that's hardly a hot take.
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Plus every french right-wing politician wants to be the next DeGaulle or Bonaparte, they just forget that they left office hated and with mass protests.
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Agnosticnixie posted:Plus every french right-wing politician wants to be the next DeGaulle or Bonaparte, they just forget that they left office hated and with mass protests. Uh... that's a very strange characterization of the way Bonaparte's reign ended. Who knows, maybe they like the idea of spending their later days on a tropical island?
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lost in postation posted:I think it's more comparable to "negro" in contemporary American usage - stinks of historical racism, not acceptable in polite conversation but not a career-ending slur either. I think this is more correct, I remember my mom (who left France in the mid-80s) using it when I was a kid, never, ever as a slur but rather just as the word to be used to refer to black people. I haven't heard her use the term in a long while though so my guess is one of her sisters told her it's no longer a word that's used.
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Arglebargle III posted:Why does France keep electing people it hates? It doesn't seem to matter who they elect it's always milquetoast neo liberal. You might say it's the system that results in all 'viable" candidates all being milquetoast neoliberals. There were only bad choices this year. Absurd Alhazred posted:Uh... that's a very strange characterization of the way Bonaparte's reign ended. Who knows, maybe they like the idea of spending their later days on a tropical island? I'm pretty sure he's thinking of Napoleon III here. Paris Commune and all that. Although that was after he was caught by the Germans. Kassad fucked around with this message at 07:16 on Jul 2, 2017 |
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Lawman 0 posted:lol he wants to be emperor
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Uh... that's a very strange characterization of the way Bonaparte's reign ended. Who knows, maybe they like the idea of spending their later days on a tropical island? I was thinking of Napoleon III, whose government collapsed incredibly hard the moment the Franco-Prussian war went sour (and there used to be conspiracy theories that the liberals in parliament had sabotaged him)
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I've listened to the station speech, lmao, what the hell? i understand why he doesn't want to do interviews i really like to know what the elites think of me though
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Kurtofan posted:I've listened to the station speech, lmao, what the hell? i understand why he doesn't want to do interviews
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