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hanales posted:There are some really sad stories on there The guy who tried to outrun a train and killed two other people in the process 
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FogHelmut posted:Speaking as an American, you have pretty good health insurance if you only paid $450. I've been told that before. It's the mandatory student health insurance international students have to get over here, regardless of income, age, or academic pursuit. On the upside, it covers a shitton...by American standards. By my native standards...well...lol I've heard friends dismiss my 450 Bill with a scoff and a laugh, because their appendicitis cost them 4 figures including post-surgery care.
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The_end posted:This is grounds to have all their licenses pulled and possible criminal charges pressed. Depends on how important the game is 
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Duzzy Funlop posted:I've been told that before. It's the mandatory student health insurance international students have to get over here, regardless of income, age, or academic pursuit. On the upside, it covers a shitton...by American standards. $100,000 for my appendix. Go America!
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The_end posted:This is grounds to have all their licenses pulled and possible criminal charges pressed. I'd put money on the people who would be responsible for enforcing this being busy watching the game at the time.
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Jun 30, 2017 19:49
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Duzzy Funlop posted:I've been told that before. It's the mandatory student health insurance international students have to get over here, regardless of income, age, or academic pursuit. On the upside, it covers a shitton...by American standards. My appendix in 2013 was billed $32,000 , insurance rate was like $18000, I owed $1500 out of pocket. Baby last year was $5200 out of pocket split between my wife and son's deductibles. I have really lovely insurance. Anyone hiring?
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The_end posted:This is grounds to have all their licenses pulled and possible criminal charges pressed. Yeah, maybe in america, where people are a bunch of babies. In whatever_european_country nobody has any problem with consenting adults watching the game while performing minor surgery
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mds2 posted:$100,000 for my appendix. Go America! I'm gonna need to hear that story
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Duzzy Funlop posted:I'm gonna need to hear that story Gonna guess out of network hospital?
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DirtRoadJunglist posted:Gonna guess out of network hospital? A loving hundred thousand?
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Duzzy Funlop posted:I'm gonna need to hear that story Surgeon hosed up. Caused a massive infection and I had to miss 2 months of work and have a second surgery to fix the first. I had to go the hospital twice a day to have my side drained. Nearly died. Good news if you are a Dr in this state, the laws here make it virtually impossible to sue you.
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i had two colonectomies and the bills for each were ~130k, I think i was about 2600 out of pocket total for both the surgeon makes like, $1500 per surgery. the rest of the money is for the operating room and staff and 5k a day for a room to recover in. any time you go under full anesthetic is gonna cost you edit: wife's c section was like 37k. we paid $1100. insurance owns boar guy fucked around with this message at 21:21 on Jun 30, 2017 |
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Jun 30, 2017 21:19
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FogHelmut posted:My appendix in 2013 was billed $32,000 , insurance rate was like $18000, I owed $1500 out of pocket. I am of the opinion that the only reason the majority of American babies are circumcised for non-religious reasons is to get another line item on the hospital bill
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Jun 30, 2017 21:21
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JFairfax posted:I am of the opinion that the only reason the majority of American babies are circumcised for non-religious reasons is to get another line item on the hospital bill until you read a r/asktheDR post about if the penis should have been cleaned ever at the tender age of 18. We don't have a good enough comfort wrt sex or nudity for people to know their dick shouldn't stink.
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Submarine Sandpaper posted:until you read a r/asktheDR post about if the penis should have been cleaned ever at the tender age of 18. We don't have a good enough comfort wrt sex or nudity for people to know their dick shouldn't stink. Or talk to someone whos worked in a nursing home.
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JFairfax posted:I am of the opinion that the only reason the majority of American babies are circumcised for non-religious reasons is to get another line item on the hospital bill Docs push for C sections specifically because they are so expensive and covered by insurance. Too bad it's leading to a shitload of deaths due to placenta accreta but hey they got their $$$ so gently caress women.
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Jun 30, 2017 21:27
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Actually a profit driven medical industry spurs innovation and gives patients the access to the best medical care!
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Oh look, another derail! I tried to find a recent 'third rail' incident to get us back with, but I have failed. So, am I the only one wondering why there's carpet in that 'operating room'? Are we sure this isn't some back room operation in a rented office space?
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Moto42 posted:Oh look, another derail! Here's a 3rd rail incident on skytrain https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-AtzN7y-84
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Moto42 posted:Oh look, another derail! it's so the patient doesn't wake up from the noise the surgeon's clogs make
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Baronjutter posted:Actually a profit driven medical industry spurs innovation and gives patients the access to the best medical care! And profits are up! WAY up! The US medical industry just can't get enough $$$$$$$!!   Shame that the 'people not dropping dead' stat didn't follow tho  But those profits are super healthy!
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Jun 30, 2017 21:48
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So these insane medical bills, those can not possibly be the actual cost of the treatments, right?
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:And profits are up! WAY up! The US medical industry just can't get enough $$$$$$$!! The market, it has spoken and decided those people didn't need to live that long. Today I was told that workplace "red tape" is killing industry and that the actual workers on the ground know safety best and if someone thinks their workplace isn't safe they just don't have to show up for work, they can work at a better site. Also unsafe worksites are not good for business so it's illogical for owners and bosses to run things in an unsafe way.
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JFairfax posted:I am of the opinion that the only reason the majority of American babies are circumcised for non-religious reasons is to get another line item on the hospital bill No, it’s because it was thought to decrease the likelihood of self‐abuse.† †An old‐timey euphemism for masturbation.
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Efexeye posted:edit: wife's c section was like 37k. we paid $1100. insurance owns yeah but if the alternative to this was 'it just costs $1k and that's that' then insurance, instead, sucks a big one
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there were at least 8 people involved including a guy who tapped her spine for an epidural (after keeping us waiting so he could finish watching a Final Four game), so it felt like a pretty good value for $1100. i think i can dig out an itemized statement. to contribute to the thread, the surgeons were listening to bob marley in the OR but there were no tvs.
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anesthesia is where you get hosed, because often they're considered out of network but no one will tell you that till you get billed enough to buy a house.
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Can you imagine any other transaction in your life that costs as much that you just agree to without any negotiating or foreknowledge and just basically write the hospital a blank check and hope it turns out ok? It's insane.
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Imagined posted:Can you imagine any other transaction in your life that costs as much that you just agree to without any negotiating or foreknowledge and just basically write the hospital a blank check and hope it turns out ok? It's insane. Sadly it wasn't always this bad! (with insurance, it has always sucked to not have it) Growing up on my parents insurance was awesome, $15 co-pay for literally everything, and most surgeries were fully covered. I fractured the tibia in my leg, I'm SURE the cost was north of 15k, my parents didn't pay poo poo out of pocket. Fractured my hip, nothing to pay. Fractured 5th meta carpal in my hand, total cost? 10k, what did my parents pay? Dick all.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ee2WSAvR7pU subways flooded ....AGAIN.
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Lime Tonics posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ee2WSAvR7pU I was waiting for the tanker truck to crash through the ceiling
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I had a diagnostic laproscopy that was done under general anesthesia, but outpatient (left the hospital the same day, no overnight stay). I'd done my insurance due diligence, so I knew about what I was going to be paying (around $2k total on some $30k in surgery costs). Shortly after, I got a bill for the anesthesiology part alone -- to the tune of 5 figures. Plus it was arriving late, because I'd just moved, and it had to forward to my new address. And I had to wait until morning to call and freak out at someone in billing over the phone to boot. "Oh, just ignore that," the receptionist said. "We bill you before we get the payment from insurance. They'll pay it, and if there's a balance, we'll rebill you then." gently caress the insurance system.
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Anta posted:So these insane medical bills, those can not possibly be the actual cost of the treatments, right? It is. Welcome to the wonderful world of inelastic demand.
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DirtRoadJunglist posted:I had a diagnostic laproscopy that was done under general anesthesia, but outpatient (left the hospital the same day, no overnight stay). I'd done my insurance due diligence, so I knew about what I was going to be paying (around $2k total on some $30k in surgery costs). Shortly after, I got a bill for the anesthesiology part alone -- to the tune of 5 figures. Plus it was arriving late, because I'd just moved, and it had to forward to my new address. And I had to wait until morning to call and freak out at someone in billing over the phone to boot. Stop opening your mail.
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Central europe loving loves floods
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Efexeye posted:i had two colonectomies and the bills for each were ~130k, I think i was about 2600 out of pocket total for both It does not follow 
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cool looks like I'll check back in with this thread in about 9 pages or so
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FCKGW posted:cool looks like I'll check back in with this thread in about 9 pages or so Everyone should fight and complain about health care in the US at every possible opportunity because of how loving stupid it is and it is about to get worse
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Icedude posted:I was waiting for the tanker truck to crash through the ceiling Still miss that ride.
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Gumbel2Gumbel posted:Everyone should fight and complain about health care in the US at every possible opportunity because of how loving stupid it is and it is about to get worse 
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