a bone to pick posted:

...It took you 2 hours to get through Skyrim's tutorial?

You're just not very good at modern videogames are you?

Nebelwerfer posted:

numberoneposter posted:

if you like collecting things forever you should check out the MadMax game

its like a 6.5/10 kind of game but oh boy you can collecting things FOREVER

really queer Christmas posted:

Hello, this is me.

Dyna Soar posted:

back at you, champ. fallout 2's tutorial is a good 15 minutes long.

a bone to pick posted:

Fallout 2 is not a modern game.

Arcanum has very similar gameplay but beats Fallout 2 in every conceivable way.

For instance, I can actually kill the mobs at the beginning of the game and it doesn't take hours.

a bone to pick posted:

Fallout 2 is not a modern game.

Arcanum has very similar gameplay but beats Fallout 2 in every conceivable way.

For instance, I can actually kill the mobs at the beginning of the game and it doesn't take hours.

Dyna Soar posted:

you're right, it's an old game. killing things doesn't take hours in fallout 2. arcanum has abysmal game balance. you can win every fight by spamming the first spell you get in RT combat. technology is next to useless. the turn based combat is just as slow as fallout 2's.it was full of bugs at release and they abandoned it like after a single patch that barely made it playable.

uh, what's it better at again?

Nebelwerfer posted:

The thing I liked about Arcanum was the multiple paths your party or specific character can take depending your actions

Dyna Soar posted:

it was ambitious and had they pulled it off, it had been the ultimate classic crpg (instead of PS:T I guess). who woulda thunk making a game with so many paths and options was a bitch to QA

a bone to pick posted:

better gameplay, pacing, and dialogue mostly but I see you live in a parallel universe so there's no point arguing about the turn-based combat.

You must be a No Mutants Allowed member or something.

Zombiepop posted:

Old Gods(VIKINGS! and a new start date) and Way of Life is probably the most important ones.

Other than that, it depends on where you want to play, Sword of Islam for muslims, Rajas of India for India, Horse Lords for some OP Horde poo poo, Sons of Abraham is nice If you play as a christian or jew, The republic for merchant republics, Reapers due and Monk and Mystics are both really good, tho Monks and Mystics is mostly for the organized religions(christianity, islam). Charlemagne pushed backs the timeline and add some story campaign stuff.
People are still out on conclave but I think it's good. Legacy of rome adds retines which is nice when you are big but makes no difference if you are a count.

Skip the ruler designer and eu 4 converter, just get a mod and never convert you game.
The portrait packs are nice for some flavour If you know you are gonna put a couple of 100 into the game.

Fake edit: http://www.ckiiwiki.com/Downloadable_content

Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:

Was combat in new vegas all that engaging to you? I still felt like I was playing a mushy mess. I mean shooting then nuke gun or whatever was fun but mostly it was sorta bad feeling guns or punching or whatever. Like, fallout 2 combat isn't something I reminisce fondly about but I didn't exactly look forward to combat sections in new vegas either. I mean it's better than godawful elder scrolls combat but that's not saying much.

Basically every grandiose open world rpg ought to be compared to dark souls and witcher 3. If it doesn't excel in the way one of those two games did then it's not worth playing. One day a game will do both and unite the tribes or something but until then we're gonna keep getting mushy-rear end randomly generated fetch quest bethesda nonsense.

canpakes posted:

Steam summer fail

Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:

Was combat in new vegas all that engaging to you? I still felt like I was playing a mushy mess. I mean shooting then nuke gun or whatever was fun but mostly it was sorta bad feeling guns or punching or whatever. Like, fallout 2 combat isn't something I reminisce fondly about but I didn't exactly look forward to combat sections in new vegas either. I mean it's better than godawful elder scrolls combat but that's not saying much.

Basically every grandiose open world rpg ought to be compared to dark souls and witcher 3. If it doesn't excel in the way one of those two games did then it's not worth playing. One day a game will do both and unite the tribes or something but until then we're gonna keep getting mushy-rear end randomly generated fetch quest bethesda nonsense.

Bob James posted:

Look at the savings.

Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:

Was combat in new vegas all that engaging to you? I still felt like I was playing a mushy mess. I mean shooting then nuke gun or whatever was fun but mostly it was sorta bad feeling guns or punching or whatever. Like, fallout 2 combat isn't something I reminisce fondly about but I didn't exactly look forward to combat sections in new vegas either. I mean it's better than godawful elder scrolls combat but that's not saying much.

Bob James posted:

Look at the savings.

a bone to pick posted:

I was talking about arcanum in that post.

The combat in fallout 3 was pretty bad, in New Vegas they let you use iron-sights with every weapon which helps the FPS crowd. New Vegas was at least an RPG/FPS hybrid, fallout 4 is barely an RPG.

One of the cool things about new vegas is how you can avoid combat. You can dress up as a raider or NCR to blend in and sneak by enemies, combined with stealth and a high persuasion you can pretty much get out of any combat scenario.

really queer Christmas posted:

New vegas combat is a lot better with project Nevada which lets you set how much damage and health everything has. Makes things a lot more interesting and combat a lot more deadly without being stupid

Bob James posted:

Look at the savings.

a bone to pick posted:

...It took you 2 hours to get through Skyrim's tutorial?

You're just not very good at modern videogames are you?

a bone to pick posted:

I thought Survival mode already pretty much did that? Basically making it like 'realistic' mode in the original Deus Ex.

There was a mod made by one of the devs on NV that made the game a lot more challenging and I usually run with that and just a few other tweaks when doing a playthrough.

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:Josh_Sawyer%27s_Mod

Inept posted:

Flight Simulator 98 looks pretty bad now. Thanks for the free game, Gateway 2000.

Maya Fey posted:

lol at the concept of "being good at Skyrim"

really queer Christmas posted:

The only cool thing survival mode does is make stims heal over time. It adds stupid hunger/thirst/sleep meters that have to go down, and adds weight to ammo. As well it makes companions able to permanently die. It's real bad and unfun without making combat any more difficult or less bullet spongey.

mike12345 posted:

Isn't Skyrim some babby game for reddit idiots?

numberoneposter posted:

are there any other games wehre you can contract malaria and have to take medication????

a bone to pick posted:

Yeah and it apparently took some old-school pro videogame man 2 hours to get through the tutorial.

Dyna Soar posted:

is there honestly any AAA crpg without a tutorial similar to the temple of trials, even if it's a bit more engaging?

a bone to pick posted:

Arcanum.

You crashland in a open area, meet some priest who's on your dick, then you can stay around and pick up some supplies and fight low-level wildlife or just go to the next area and continue the journey.