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simplefish
Mar 28, 2011

So long, and thanks for all the fish gallbladdΣrs!


Everyone knows the classy way to exit a plane mid-flight is with the rear stairs, a parachute, and a million dollars in cash

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Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

simplefish posted:

Everyone knows the classy way to exit a plane mid-flight is with the rear stairs, a parachute, and a million dollars in cash

:wrong:

The classy way to exit a plane mid‐flight is when you’re flying north of mach 3 and your aircraft breaks up around you.

simplefish
Mar 28, 2011

So long, and thanks for all the fish gallbladdΣrs!


I don't think that's you leaving the plane, technically, but the plane leaving you behind in the upper atmosphere and loving off elsewhere

Still :black101: as hell though

simplefish fucked around with this message at 06:34 on Jun 29, 2017

Nice piece of fish
Jan 29, 2008

Ultra Carp

Platystemon posted:

:wrong:

The classy way to exit a plane mid‐flight is when you’re flying north of mach 3 and your aircraft breaks up around you.

:psyduck: Jesus. That's like being told you can jump feet first into a human sized blender and be okay. How the hell do you survive that? Also, why are all SR71 stories such good reads?

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Nice piece of fish posted:

:psyduck: Jesus. That's like being told you can jump feet first into a human sized blender and be okay. How the hell do you survive that? Also, why are all SR71 stories such good reads?

Because even the 'boring' poo poo is still bonkers.

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"
“Though I Fly Through the Valley of Death, I Shall Fear No Evil. For I am at 80,000 Feet...and Climbing.”

Carth Dookie
Jan 28, 2013

That's one hell of a deep valley.

Duke Chin
Jan 11, 2002

Roger That:
MILK CRATES INBOUND

:siren::siren::siren::siren:
- FUCK THE HABS -
Man Boeing has really upped their chemtrail game. :golfclap:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epa6WxEw1Xk

Sperglord
Feb 6, 2016
Regulatory news from the supersonic business jet push: https://blog.boomsupersonic.com/lee-gardner-amendment-would-reduce-supersonic-fuel-burn-by-20-percent-or-more-34a189465af4

inkjet_lakes
Feb 9, 2015

Duke Chin posted:

Man Boeing has really upped their chemtrail game. :golfclap:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epa6WxEw1Xk

Kuznetsov airways?

ReelBigLizard
Feb 27, 2003

Fallen Rib
My company (a start up airline) just took delivery of our new 208, the first of our new fleet.


It's got a couple of mods to do before it leaves Wichita, then a couple of our guys are flying out to ferry it across the north atlantic to it's new home.

drgitlin
Jul 25, 2003
luv 2 get custom titles from a forum that goes into revolt when its told to stop using a bad word.

Sagebrush posted:

The Smithsonian only accepts completely intact donations to its collection, so I could believe that the SR-71 they have is the closest to flyable.

Incidentally, because of that requirement, the Smithsonian also has the world's only remaining functional EV-1.

If that were true they wouldn't have some bits and pieces of a Dornier (iirc) flying wing on display at Udvar-Hazy.

Carth Dookie
Jan 28, 2013

ReelBigLizard posted:

My company (a start up airline) just took delivery of our new 208, the first of our new fleet.


It's got a couple of mods to do before it leaves Wichita, then a couple of our guys are flying out to ferry it across the north atlantic to it's new home.

I loving love the Cessna Caravan. :swoon:

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

ReelBigLizard posted:

My company (a start up airline) just took delivery of our new 208, the first of our new fleet.


It's got a couple of mods to do before it leaves Wichita, then a couple of our guys are flying out to ferry it across the north atlantic to it's new home.

I love passenger single engine turboprops.

Did anyone every put a Turboprop on an An-2?

EDIT: Yup! An-2-100




:stare:

CommieGIR fucked around with this message at 12:58 on Jun 30, 2017

ReelBigLizard
Feb 27, 2003

Fallen Rib
It's a great aircraft, we ran test flights in Textron's demo machine along our proposed routes. It's smooth, quiet, comfortable, roomy, great pax visibility and a total pilot's plane too - our training manager took it for a spin and he was grinning like a schoolboy. Many of us grew up flying the same legs in BN Trislanders, which, while a brilliant budget aircraft, is so cramped, noisy and spartan compared to the 'van. Any commercial goons want to move to a small island group and fly fun, short hops all day with cool peeps, PM me, we're hiring.

marumaru
May 20, 2013



CommieGIR posted:

Did anyone every put a Turboprop on an An-2?

EDIT: Yup! An-2-100




:stare:

It's... it's beautiful. :stwoon:

HookedOnChthonics
Dec 5, 2015

Profoundly dull


drgitlin posted:

If that were true they wouldn't have some bits and pieces of a Dornier (iirc) flying wing on display at Udvar-Hazy.

To be fair, the circumstances of the Horten fuselage's acquisition were less 'donation' and more 'war prize.'

bloops
Dec 31, 2010

Thanks Ape Pussy!

ReelBigLizard posted:

It's a great aircraft, we ran test flights in Textron's demo machine along our proposed routes. It's smooth, quiet, comfortable, roomy, great pax visibility and a total pilot's plane too - our training manager took it for a spin and he was grinning like a schoolboy. Many of us grew up flying the same legs in BN Trislanders, which, while a brilliant budget aircraft, is so cramped, noisy and spartan compared to the 'van. Any commercial goons want to move to a small island group and fly fun, short hops all day with cool peeps, PM me, we're hiring.

Any jobs for a prior flight engineer with an advertising background?!?

Nebakenezzer
Sep 13, 2005

The Mote in God's Eye

ReelBigLizard posted:

It's a great aircraft, we ran test flights in Textron's demo machine along our proposed routes. It's smooth, quiet, comfortable, roomy, great pax visibility and a total pilot's plane too - our training manager took it for a spin and he was grinning like a schoolboy. Many of us grew up flying the same legs in BN Trislanders, which, while a brilliant budget aircraft, is so cramped, noisy and spartan compared to the 'van. Any commercial goons want to move to a small island group and fly fun, short hops all day with cool peeps, PM me, we're hiring.

Can you give me the rough geographical area? I know a pilot or two.

Jealous Cow
Apr 4, 2002

by Fluffdaddy
cross-post from the ATC thread...



https://www.theverge.com/2017/6/30/15903142/watch-2-22-movie-clip-michiel-huisman-teresa-palmer

This is pretty hilarious.

Alereon
Feb 6, 2004

Dehumanize yourself and face to Trumpshed
College Slice

Jealous Cow posted:

This is pretty hilarious.
"Punch it!" is not ICAO standard phraseology :mad:

Dr_Strangelove
Dec 16, 2003

Mein Fuhrer! THEY WON!

ReelBigLizard posted:

My company (a start up airline) just took delivery of our new 208, the first of our new fleet.


It's got a couple of mods to do before it leaves Wichita, then a couple of our guys are flying out to ferry it across the north atlantic to it's new home.

My company does yearly volunteer trips to schools we support in needy areas worldwide. One of my coworkers just got back from this year's trip to Tanzania. The delegation flew from Dar es Salaam to Iringa on a Caravan, run by an outfit named Auric Air.

I was on last year's trip to Vietnam. We just took minivans from Hanoi to Lào Cai. :geno:

PittTheElder
Feb 13, 2012

:geno: Yes, it's like a lava lamp.


Wouldn't the aircraft on takeoff already be 'punching it'?

PittTheElder fucked around with this message at 21:04 on Jun 30, 2017

beep-beep car is go
Apr 11, 2005

I can just eyeball this, right?



PittTheElder posted:

Wouldn't the aircraft on takeoff already be 'punching it'?

I don't think most modern airliners take off on full throttle. If 50% gets you up, why waste gas going 99%?

PittTheElder
Feb 13, 2012

:geno: Yes, it's like a lava lamp.

I guess it probably depends on runway length.

um excuse me
Jan 1, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Df7BrgtbA4g

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

PittTheElder posted:

I guess it probably depends on runway length.

And winds and temperature.

If you've never experienced a standing takeoff on an airliner you're missing out. (MD-90s can take off like rocketships if they want)

Jealous Cow
Apr 4, 2002

by Fluffdaddy
Sometimes you'll even increase throttle just after leaving the ground because that's what the computer says is most efficient.

Anyway that movie is retarded and nothing works that way. The landing aircraft would had gone around without behind told.

Would TCAS have issued a warning in that case?

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


hobbesmaster posted:

And winds and temperature.

If you've never experienced a standing takeoff on an airliner you're missing out. (MD-90s can take off like rocketships if they want)

I did on an A319 the last time I flew out of Pittsburgh. Usually, they taxi around the corner, spool up without stopping, and leisurely take off.

Last time I departed, it was snowing pretty good. We just got deiced and the runway was covered a bit in snow. We taxied to the very end of the runway, stopped, the engines spooled up to a volume I don't think I've heard before on an A319 and it was held for a good 15 seconds. Then the brakes were released and we shot down the runway.

I can only assume they were worried about stopping distance in the event of an aborted takeoff due to the condition of the runway.

freelop
Apr 28, 2013

Where we're going, we won't need fries to see



Glass
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FBS
Apr 27, 2015

The real fun of living wisely is that you get to be smug about it.

https://twitter.com/kwilli1046/status/880859231808872448

This has been on Twitter all day, I'm not very plugged in to the aviation scene, any idea how the pilot managed to do this? In a twin, no less.

Last I read both occupants survived.

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"

Alereon posted:

"Punch it!" is not ICAO standard phraseology :mad:

It'd also be the last thing a tower controller would say professionally. At least that's JFK, so he could pretty easily clean out his desk and hop an airport shuttle to Atlantic City to use that clairvoyance to get rent money and legal fees for all the passengers about to sue him, the airline, and airport for emotional suffering.

3 Action Economist
May 22, 2002

Educate. Agitate. Liberate.
Wind turbulence doesn't exist, and pilots are merely robots who do whatever ATC programs tem to do, incapable of free thought.

Jealous Cow
Apr 4, 2002

by Fluffdaddy

BIG HEADLINE posted:

It'd also be the last thing a tower controller would say professionally. At least that's JFK, so he could pretty easily clean out his desk and hop an airport shuttle to Atlantic City to use that clairvoyance to get rent money and legal fees for all the passengers about to sue him, the airline, and airport for emotional suffering.

Also did you notice the nose up pitch on the landing aircraft? Ugh

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"

Colonial Air Force posted:

...and pilots are merely robots who do whatever ATC programs them to do, incapable of free thought.

Sounds like someone got a hold of AIRBUS' internal memos.

AIRBUS: Because "Deus Ex Machina" makes it easier to have plane crashes ruled as "Acts of God."

BIG HEADLINE fucked around with this message at 00:59 on Jul 1, 2017

The Locator
Sep 12, 2004

Out here, everything hurts.





FBS posted:

https://twitter.com/kwilli1046/status/880859231808872448

This has been on Twitter all day, I'm not very plugged in to the aviation scene, any idea how the pilot managed to do this? In a twin, no less.

Last I read both occupants survived.

According to the radio report I heard on my commute home, there was an off-duty fire chief who was right there and pulled the occupants to safety, and then two nurses helped him with the occupants until first responders arrived. So occupants were both lucky to survive the impact, and lucky that helpful people with useful skills were right there.

Edit: Husband and wife in their 50's or 60's.

Chillbro Baggins
Oct 8, 2004
Bad Angus! Bad!

There's a Tenerife joke or three that could be made, but I'm not that much of an rear end in a top hat.

In real life, he'd say "bolter bolter bolter" (or the civilian equivalent) to SA841 and "BRAKES!" to GA950, right? And as others have said, that's what the pilots would do, because if Tower craps out it's "see and avoid" and they were obviously properly seen. Or, y'know, somebody else would've seen what was happening and be giving orders to the airliners instead of asking the spaced-out controller "WTF dude? What are you gonna do?"

Edit: this might top that Denzel Washington movie for airliner-related stupidity. Well, at least it comes close.

Edit again: Pretty sure this concept was officially done to death when there was a TV show based on a Stephen King novel about a guy who gets tomorrow's newspaper today. And I vaguely remember some turn-of-the-century show where the protagonist had a time machine, but it could only go back five minutes.

I hope that clip is the first scene of the movie where he discovers his gift, gets fired, and goes into the fortune-telling business, but we all know it isn't. Actually, it's out now. Anybody seen it? Is it as bad as we expected?

Edit 3: ... do ATC not use phonetic alphabet? Pretty sure they do, so he just got triple-fired.

Chillbro Baggins fucked around with this message at 06:16 on Jul 1, 2017

CBJamo
Jul 15, 2012

The landing aircraft would go around without asking ATC. The one taking off would do whatever it's current speed requires, if they're below V1, they would stop, otherwise they would takeoff.

And yes, ATC uses the NATO phonetic alphabet, but not using it isn't a firing offense. Hell, under the new FAA, the other fuckup might not even get you fired.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


Delivery McGee posted:

Edit 3: ... do ATC not use phonetic alphabet? Pretty sure they do, so he just got triple-fired.

I don't work in the air industry anymore but yesterday I got "E for Alpha" over the radio from one of my co-workers. There is no way in the world he will let that one go, my reply was "I guess being an Army Reservist means you reserve the right to be a dumbass"

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bloops
Dec 31, 2010

Thanks Ape Pussy!

bull3964 posted:

I did on an A319 the last time I flew out of Pittsburgh. Usually, they taxi around the corner, spool up without stopping, and leisurely take off.

Last time I departed, it was snowing pretty good. We just got deiced and the runway was covered a bit in snow. We taxied to the very end of the runway, stopped, the engines spooled up to a volume I don't think I've heard before on an A319 and it was held for a good 15 seconds. Then the brakes were released and we shot down the runway.

I can only assume they were worried about stopping distance in the event of an aborted takeoff due to the condition of the runway.

A static takeoff offers the crew more usable runway, which is helpful for performance data. Rolling takeoffs are easier on the engines and brakes for obvious reasons. The downside is that they chew up runway. Losing several hundred feet (for the E-3, a static takeoff was a 200 foot penalty vs a rolling at 700 ft) could mean being unable to make a takeoff and having to drop weight.

This was a scenario we encountered regularly operating out of Elmendorf. I worked hard to make every brick count in our favor.

With 200 ft subtracted giving me 9,800 usable feet, we were making takeoffs with braking distance at just a hair below 9,000 or slightly above. Old, inefficient Pratt motors and OK brakes will do that for you.

bloops fucked around with this message at 09:57 on Jul 1, 2017

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