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CityMidnightJunky posted:It's a little worrying that Doctor Who is apparently such a slog to film that even Capaldi said 'gently caress this, it isn't fun anymore'. It seems inherently British to not want to keep the same acting job for very long. It's why they started losing people on Downton Abbey, they said they just wanted to do something else. Contrast this with American Actors, who will keep the same acting job for decades if they land it. I'm looking at you, Kelsey Grammar and Mark Harmon.
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Fil5000 posted:And Tom Baker is behind you, emptying your drinks cabinet into his mouth. Colin Baker visited and he was great company, but you're not sure why all your DVDs have been mysteriously replaced by copies of "Vengeance On Varos: Special Edition" (some say it's a classic, though).
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I was watching some early Capaldi Doctor episodes and it's noticeable how different his current version is. I think he's really hit his stride now and I hope he carries this Doctor to Big Finish.
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Bicyclops posted:Peter Capaldi did want to keep the job, though. Oh we know that for sure? I didn't know that. That sucks.
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Wheat Loaf posted:Colin Baker visited and he was great company, but you're not sure why all your DVDs have been mysteriously replaced by copies of "Vengeance On Varos: Special Edition" (some say it's a classic, though). Sylvester visited you in the past and now your living room is set up EXACTLY as it needs to be for when his past self arrives.
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thrawn527 posted:Oh we know that for sure? I didn't know that. That sucks. According to rumor he still had one more year on his contract.
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thrawn527 posted:It seems inherently British to not want to keep the same acting job for very long. It's why they started losing people on Downton Abbey, they said they just wanted to do something else. to be fair, Frasier required way less running
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Fil5000 posted:Sylvester visited you in the past and now your living room is set up EXACTLY as it needs to be for when his past self arrives. McGann would have come, but he had work commitments.
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CityMidnightJunky posted:McGann would have come, but he had work commitments. And forgot where you lived.
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CityMidnightJunky posted:McGann would have come, but he had work commitments. The_Doctor posted:And forgot where you lived. I think the latter is the most likely. The McGann era is the closest to All My Circuits.
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Plavski posted:I really hope Big Finish get the license to do Twelfth Doctor stories. I will happily listen to Capaldi's voice until the end of time itself. Audio recording and voice acting have to be a pretty sweet deal for actors in general. I don't know if they literally get to shoot in their pyjamas, but they don't have to go on location, or spend hours in makeup and wardrobe, wait for lighting and sets, etc. I mean, I am sure the pay and exposure are a lot lower, but it seems like it would be a bit more creative and low-pressure.
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Mokinokaro posted:According to rumor he still had one more year on his contract. Eh, where do those rumours even come from though?
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glowing-fish posted:Audio recording and voice acting have to be a pretty sweet deal for actors in general. I don't know if they literally get to shoot in their pyjamas, but they don't have to go on location, or spend hours in makeup and wardrobe, wait for lighting and sets, etc. I mean, I am sure the pay and exposure are a lot lower, but it seems like it would be a bit more creative and low-pressure. Veteran voice actors often do. There's a great documentary called, "I Know That Voice" about voice acting, and someone in it (I forget who, now) said he had a studio installed in his house so he could just get out of bed, knock out some lines, then eat breakfast, or something like that.
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thrawn527 posted:Veteran voice actors often do. There's a great documentary called, "I Know That Voice" about voice acting, and someone in it (I forget who, now) said he had a studio installed in his house so he could just get out of bed, knock out some lines, then eat breakfast, or something like that. My old neighbour would do this. He was a radio voiceover guy who moved to Canada from Georgia or some other Southern state. He didn't lose a single day of work - he just kept hammering out heavily-accented ads about ATV sales or two-for-one fried onion blossoms or whatever in his basement and emailed em off.
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At this point in his career, someone like Billy West can probably just cobble together all of the lines from something he's already recorded, having uttered every possible sentence with every possible inflection.
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Seeing Billy Bragg talk about Jeremy Corbyn playing long games re: Brexit makes me miss the Mighty Jagrofess of the Holy Hadrojassic Maxenroddenfoe.
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TinTower posted:Seeing Billy Bragg talk about Jeremy Corbyn playing long games re: Brexit makes me miss the Mighty Jagrofess of the Holy Hadrojassic Maxenroddenfoe. Was he a lib dem?
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TinTower posted:Seeing Billy Bragg talk about Jeremy Corbyn playing long games re: Brexit makes me miss the Mighty Jagrofess of the Holy Hadrojassic Maxenroddenfoe. Fun fact: the Jagrafess was actually modelled on the late Rev. Ian Paisley. Serious: it's kinda weird seeing Simon Pegg in that episode, because he was well-known here at the time but he hadn't become an international star yet. It's sort of like Tom Hardy in Star Trek Nemesis.
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thrawn527 posted:Veteran voice actors often do. There's a great documentary called, "I Know That Voice" about voice acting, and someone in it (I forget who, now) said he had a studio installed in his house so he could just get out of bed, knock out some lines, then eat breakfast, or something like that. Harry Shearer being allowed to literally phone his lines in was one of the reasons he kept doing The Simpsons. I think Patrick Warburton had to do something like that too for a season of Venture Bros. when he was super busy.
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Fil5000 posted:And Tom Baker is behind you, emptying your drinks cabinet into his mouth. Well yes but we were talking about people doing things we HADN'T invited them to do.
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Attention fellow Americans: today's episode starts 30 minutes earlier because it's extra-long.
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Going back a bit (I've missed a few weeks and am catching up), but the Rank Has Its Privileges bit in Empress was a reference to Day of the Daleks and not playing with racial cues.
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TinTower posted:So you're looking at a time dilation of about 1,000,000, and thus a black hole on the scale of a hundred solar masses. Fairly sure there's two unknowns (mass of the black hole and the distance from its centre, assuming we're talking a schwarzschild black hole (ie a nice simple "straightforward" spherical stationary black hole)). Simply knowing that the time dilation is a million times that at one end of the ship than the other, 4 miles away, isn't sufficient. 2house2fly posted:Oh the monks [Moffat] didn't write? Fair enough, I don't trust him after Planet Of The Dead Moffat wrote Extremis and is co-credited on Pyramid  Bicyclops posted:I'm rewatching the first series and while both of the farting aliens episodes are bad (someone said one of them was good?), they're easier to watch, because you can say "Well, they're annoying, but this is probably a better government than a theoretical Theresa May/DUP alliance. They are good BioEnchanted posted:I think the idea is that because time moves more slowly on the other side of the portal, everyone there will be fighting for their entire lives. Say that through some weird miracle they live a full lifespan, that's a good 60-years their time fighting (we'll assume that they can find food and other required things, just suspend disbelief and say that the warriors can war for a while) For the Doctor in the portal it was a few seconds - everyone else 2 days had passed. If we simplify the maths and assume that 1 day our time =10 seconds their time, 6 days pass in a minute, and a year passes in 3600 seconds, or less than three days. Expand those three days to a year their time, it becomes 120 years on earth for every year they live in the other realm keeping the monsters at bay. Given 60 years of life they'll last at least a good 7.2 thousand years fighting them off, long enough for something else to be thought up. Better that than the few hundred years t could take for the portal to tear wide open after becoming unstable. Baaaaaaad maths here from the Celtic episode. 3600 seconds is less than three days, yes. It's precisely an hour. The actual figure is about half a million years for 60 years of fighting. MrL_JaKiri fucked around with this message at 15:58 on Jul 1, 2017 |
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MrL_JaKiri posted:Fairly sure there's two unknowns (mass of the black hole and the distance from its centre, assuming we're talking a schwarzschild black hole (ie a non-rotating frame)). Simply knowing that the time dilation is a million times that at one end of the ship than the other, 4 miles away, isn't sufficient. Well, my guess is that the ship is Very Very Very Close to the black hole, which sets a lower bound. Also, the ship is 400 miles long. 
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TinTower posted:Well, my guess is that the ship is Very Very Very Close to the black hole, which sets a lower bound. You may think it's a long way down the road to the chemist, but that's just peanuts to space. I don't think there's a solution that actually lines up with what we see, though; the ship would be about the same scale as the event horizon of a 100 solar mass black hole, so either the black hole is very far away or is very small (Dougal) in the FX shots at the start.
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MrL_JaKiri posted:
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The monks are basically not relevant to the plot of Extremis, and Pyramid at least has the interesting idea of them requiring consent to invade. The monks are bad because of Toby Whithouse's dismal failure at resolving them or indeed doing much of anything with them in Lie Of The Land.
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Basically, just a show and relax.2house2fly posted:The monks are basically not relevant to the plot of Extremis, and Pyramid at least has the interesting idea of them requiring consent to invade. The monks are bad because of Toby Whithouse's dismal failure at resolving them or indeed doing much of anything with them in Lie Of The Land. All three episodes are bad
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I imagine that any ship that was close enough to have that amount of time dilation across decks would be torn apart by tidal forces in under a second, but: 1. The ship has a Structural Inertia Field that holds it together against acceleration 2. The blackhole is made of quark matter and is emitting non-polarized gravitinos 3. Doctor Who isn't a hard science fiction show I think that they did a good job at taking a basic scientific concept and turning it into a story idea, even if the math and engineering didn't quite work out. The black hole scenario in the movie Interstellar had a Kip Thorne, a physicist from CalTech go over it and decide it actually could work, but even then they had to use a lot of spherical cows. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstellar_(film)#Wormholes_and_black_holes
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It's been a while since we talked about the music for World Enough, but a few points were reminiscent of the creepier parts of John Barry's score for The Black Hole, appropriately enough. If you don't know it (in this thread of all places, shame on you  ), it was the middle point between Disney's big adventure movies of the 50s-60s and the post Star Wars sci-fi boom, and features a scientist who has parked his ship at the edge of a black hole who has surgically converted his crew into cyborgs without free will or individuality to keep them from mutinying. Hey, that sounds familiar - the only thing missing is the pudgy, smart rear end-robot... Oh. Well played, Moffat & Co. Well played.
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I just remembered this because it was really funny but does anyone have the post (or series of posts) where the guy was watching Fires of Pompeii and got really mad because he had audio description on but didn't know about it?
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glowing-fish posted:
I had to look up this phrase. Now I understand, but it also had this  gif directly on the wiki page:
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glowing-fish posted:I imagine that any ship that was close enough to have that amount of time dilation across decks would be torn apart by tidal forces in under a second, but: The real cool thing about Interstellar was that the CGI was so realistic, using real physics equations, that physicists could use it to spot new feature in black holes that were always there in the maths but were hard to notice until the maths were applied in visual form. Interstellar's special effects caused physicists to write new research papers about black hole physics.
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I don't think it was totally accurate. They changed the way the black hole looked to have it make more sense to viewers.
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Chucat posted:I just remembered this because it was really funny but does anyone have the post (or series of posts) where the guy was watching Fires of Pompeii and got really mad because he had audio description on but didn't know about it? Brigadier Sockface posted:Hmm. Disliking this one is the minority view then then eh? Well, I wonder if the DVD version will come with a feature that turns off the annoying narration. I appreciated the gimmick at first but I did think it got a bit distracting after a while. I'd like to compare the episode without it to see if it runs better. Brigadier Sockface posted:I'm surprised no one else is mentioning it (I'm actually starting to feel a bit
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Irony Be My Shield posted:That could be a good gimmick though. That would have been fun to gently caress with.  We have always heard the voice of the Chronicler of Rassilon...
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