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Ixian posted:If that post is to be taken at face value they have zero proof they've tried to do anything. "Mailed off checks and no one ever cashed them". They just disappeared into the ether according to them. Other that check carbons (which will be worthless) the only thing they have to show they tried to perform according to the original lease is their word that they did so. I mean they went to the owner's old address and found someone else living there, so if they were smart and kept the new family's contact info they have a third party who can confirm for them.
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Krispy Kareem posted:There has to be a statue of limitations on some of the rent owed. I'm not sure if the IRS can come back on 10 year old debt, so Johnny Beneficiary isn't going to collect on at least half of this rent. There's no way that this property isn't unencumbered by liens from all sorts of creditors, all of whom would have a right to the profit (i.e., rent) generated by the property.
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Motronic posted:Nobody here has said everyone. But you take these things in context: people in this situation who also post about it on the interwebs while being cagy about details......that's where my and several other poster's seemingly logical suspicion comes from. That suspicion includes the whole post being a troll. I dunno, it's more fun to believe the post is real. Were they asked wht the investment was and demured?
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Hot Dog Day #91 posted:No. They're in default of the lease by not paying each month. The consideration is paying rent. Failing to pay rent doesn't void the lease, but they could be evicted. That makes sense. What about the letter they say they got from the city saying they were taking over the property? Couldn't they have independently verified with the city at that time if they were concerned it was some kind of scam, especially when their landlord stopped cashing their checks (assuming they continued to set that money aside every month)?
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monster on a stick posted:Underage nephew used my mother's card to buy $3,000 worth of stuff on Amazon. quote:[–]ChaoticSquirrel 49 points 22 hours ago
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Haifisch posted:Dude must really loving love pickles. Well, they won't go bad at least.
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I was curious how much a gallon of pickles would cost on Amazon. For $95 you can buy 640oz of pickles. Kid missed out. Or for $17 you can skip the pickles and just buy a gallon of pickle juice for some reason? 
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Enfys posted:I was curious how much a gallon of pickles would cost on Amazon. Sprinkle it on your sandwiches...for flavor https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3O0XEdj4t8
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NancyPants posted:That makes sense. What about the letter they say they got from the city saying they were taking over the property? Couldn't they have independently verified with the city at that time if they were concerned it was some kind of scam, especially when their landlord stopped cashing their checks (assuming they continued to set that money aside every month)? It's likely the property was foreclosed by the city and they own it. As someone who handles that type of stuff for a living, the city may really not care very much, or it may be on some old about-to-retire attorney's desk who just doesn't care.
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Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:Like, shares of index funds or any stock or whatever? I'm sure some brokers issue atm cards so you can get cash out quickly but I doubt all of them do. My bet is still on gold. There are immigrant communities that still hold large amounts of gold, and there is a tradition of buying/selling large amounts of gold for major life expenses.
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Enfys posted:I was curious how much a gallon of pickles would cost on Amazon. Pickle backs. Obviously.
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Krispy Kareem posted:There has to be a statue of limitations on some of the rent owed. I'm not sure if the IRS can come back on 10 year old debt, so Johnny Beneficiary isn't going to collect on at least half of this rent. Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't statute of limitations just mean they can't be sued to recover the debt, not that they stop owing it, and only bankruptcy would truly relieve them of their debt? For most people, "can't be sued" and "don't owe" are effectively the same thing since if you don't need anything further from the person you owe money to, they have no recourse if they can't sue you. However, if this family wants to keep living in that house or maybe even buy it, their debtor has that leverage over them and can demand they pay back all that they owe or no lease renewal, purchase, or whatever.
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kw0134 posted:The thing is that the property might not even be the landlord's anymore; the letter they got from a city agency sounds like it may have been in a tax foreclosure in which case the tenants owe a pile of money to the municipality. In the event, if the landlord can't be bothered to collect rent, he sure as hell ain't bothering to pay property taxes, and the shocking thing would be that the city didn't send the sheriff to staple a summons and complaint to the door. Or maybe he did and the tenants thought it was a "scam." Not every lease has an automatic renewal clause either. If the lease doesn't renew, but you don't move out and aren't evicted, do you owe money? I have no clue. It reads a little like that (presumed fake) workplace story of the goon who was in a forgotten department and kept getting paid. Sorry if I'm continuing an unwelcome derail but personally I find this one fascinating.
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^^^ if there's no auto renewal, and state law doesn't say something, then the you'd likely be liable for fair market rental value. It's really fact specific based off what the tenant and landlord did to solve the problem and mitigate damages.
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therobit posted:I dunno, it's more fun to believe the post is real. Were they asked wht the investment was and demured? If it's a troll the guy is using his long-term/"real" account for it. AmericanBarbarian posted:My bet is still on gold. There are immigrant communities that still hold large amounts of gold, and there is a tradition of buying/selling large amounts of gold for major life expenses. Yeah, it actually is more likely to be this, after looking at his username/digging into his post history. The OP and his family are Chinese-American, and gold is a pretty normal way of storing wealth in traditional Chinese culture.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/legaladvice/comments/6kuf2l/oh_15_people_invested_into_a_bitcoin_trader_no/ posted:[OH] 15+ people Invested into a bitcoin trader, no returns (self.legaladvice) Bitcoin ponzi schemes, amazing!
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quote:trusting our CEO because it's our CEO This sums up almost everything wrong with America.
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monster on a stick posted:Bitcoin ponzi schemes, amazing! quote:PS: He has money, he didn't lose it ALL, he flexes his Presidential Rolex, weekly bottles of ace at the club, Versace jewelry, casino rounds, and penthouse suites. Just seems as if he's not paying out Extra: There was other people in the industry that had invested as well, with no connection to my CEO. My CEO burned a lot of bridges, and we don't know If he got his money back or not. We assume he probably did because he was the main investor from my specific group. None of us communicate with him any longer, and there will be another thread with that whole situation! Every time that Ponzi scheme plays out on American Greed with "Well he drives a fancy car so he must be doing something right" I shake my head.
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That Ponzi scheme return doesn't even make sense. If the guy was getting 10% returns per month, then he's doubling his money roughly every 7 months. Not only would the traider not need your money, if that was the case he wouldn't WANT your money. The more money he had to "invest," the more he would quickly become the market for bitcoins and be unable to profit off of whatever magic trading differences existed to allow him such crazy returns in the first place. Maybe he bamboozled them with some fancy arbitrage scheme or--quote:The way he was trading was supposably safe, by making safe, non risky trades. The concept of buying in bulk for cheap, selling in low quantity for higher prices. Oh. So commodity markets are like going to Costco to buy pickles. The more you buy at once, the less you pay! 
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You can't save a small fortune in commodities without first spending a large fortune. What's the stock market up in the last 8 months? Something like 20%? Yeah. Let's all invest in the more risky option when the less risky one is going gangbusters. Not as good as Buttcoins mind you. But with 100% less stolen money.
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Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:It reads a little like that (presumed fake) workplace story of the goon who was in a forgotten department and kept getting paid. For reference: https://sites.google.com/site/forgottenemployee/
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monster on a stick posted:Bitcoin ponzi schemes, amazing! Being "introduced to a bitcoin trader" is a great line. Forget your bank or a brokerage, just give some random dude your money and market-busting returns are yours. All of these scams play off of dumb greed.
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Hot Dog Day #91 posted:No. They're in default of the lease by not paying each month. The consideration is paying rent. Failing to pay rent doesn't void the lease, but they could be evicted. Well they're in SF which has absolutely insane tenant protection laws, so who the gently caress knows. My question is who is paying the property taxes, but it's also possible they're incredibly cheap under prop 13 and are somehow being automatically withdrawn from a bank account somewheres. The government thing is wild but you'd think there would have been some follow up at some point on it. You'd think if there's actually been a tax sale in such an insanely valuable location they'd have been notified (as required by law in Illinois) edit: blah, new page. none of the story makes sense - if a management company were paying taxes they'd be collecting rent. as always it's a bunch of half truths on the internet mastershakeman fucked around with this message at 14:03 on Jul 3, 2017 |
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The actual story is probably like I hate this creepy landlord and don't want to talk about him and dad has been paying my rent for 10 years I'll just make up this stupid story instead. Young people do this weird thing where they just remove characters they don't like from the story sometimes, even if it requires changing reality a bit. I call it social media memory syndrome.
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Pryor on Fire posted:The actual story is probably like I hate this creepy landlord and don't want to talk about him and dad has been paying my rent for 10 years I'll just make up this stupid story instead. Young people do this weird thing where they just remove characters they don't like from the story sometimes, even if it requires changing reality a bit. I call it social media memory syndrome. Old people do this weird thing where they just insert their own fantasy versions of things into blank spaces that don't exist in things they hear when it doesn't match their perception of the world. I call it talking out of your rear end syndrome.
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Pryor on Fire posted:The actual story is probably like I hate this creepy landlord and don't want to talk about him and dad has been paying my rent for 10 years I'll just make up this stupid story instead. Young people do this weird thing where they just remove characters they don't like from the story sometimes, even if it requires changing reality a bit. I call it social media memory syndrome. This is a weird post
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Papa John Misty posted:Old people do this weird thing where they just insert their own fantasy versions of things into blank spaces that don't exist in things they hear when it doesn't match their perception of the world. I call it talking out of your rear end syndrome.
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I didn't know we vaguebooked on SA.
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Papa John Misty posted:Old people do this weird thing where they just insert their own fantasy versions of things into blank spaces that don't exist in things they hear when it doesn't match their perception of the world. I call it talking out of your rear end syndrome.
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Hoodwinker posted:I didn't know we vaguebooked on SA. 12 year coma is rough -- how are you feeling?
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Subjunctive posted:12 year coma is rough -- how are you feeling? I don't want to talk about it...
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Generously cross-posted from the Footballers Gone Feral thread quote:Sportswear tycoon Mike Ashley once hosted a management meeting in a pub where he drank 12 pints and vomited into a fireplace, a court has heard.
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Just found out my CC info was stolen. BWM: Using a stolen CC to spend $200 on Steam games.
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theHUNGERian posted:Just found out my CC info was stolen. How does Steam handle that? Just take it back from who ever downloaded them?
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And ban the account, and cooperate with the CC company. And they probably have names from the other CCs used in the past.
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But in the end he got to play games for free for a few hours!
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Solice Kirsk posted:But in the end he got to play games for free for a few hours! Or most likely has the money from selling those games at a discount to greedy suckers who are going to get their sketchy discount Steam games revoked. Who may not even get banned because Steam won't ban an account unless it directly used the stolen card or has a history of activating stolen games. OnceIWasAnOstrich fucked around with this message at 21:47 on Jul 3, 2017 |
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We all love Reddit's personal finance tips, but I contend Department of Defense security clearance appeals are the finest BWM goldmine online. At least you know they are real, and the 2017 reports are fascinating: http://ogc.osd.mil/doha/industrial/2017.htmlquote:Applicant contests the Department of Defense’s (DoD) intent to deny his eligibility for a security clearance to work in the defense industry. Applicant owes approximately $138,000 in student loans on which he is paying $30 per month. He is more than $64,000 delinquent on other debts. quote:Applicant is a 44-year-old cost analyst/compliance manager who has worked for a defense contractor since April 2010, and he seeks to obtain a security clearance. (Tr. 17, 36, 86) From March 1994 through January 1998, he honorably served in the United States Marine Corps. (Tr.46) He separated as a corporal (E-4). (Tr. 42) The U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs rates Applicant’s disability at ten percent for which he receives $133 monthly. (Tr. 74) His annual salary is $99,550. (Tr. 38) In March 1999, after leaving the Marine Corps, he married and they have ten children ages 4 to 22. (Ex. 1) His wife does not work outside of the home. quote:He was at this job from June 2005 through March 2008. His income for half of 2005 was $60,000, for 2006 it was $130,000, and for 2007, $135,000 to $140,000. (Tr. 52) He indicated that during these times he was making a great deal of money. quote:In March 2008, Applicant left his job and invested $70,000 of his own money to open an Italian Ice store. (Tr. 52, 53) The money came from his savings and the sale of his stock options. (Ex. 6) The store netted less than $10,000 per year. (Tr. 54) In the fall of 2009, the store ceased to do business. (Tr. 54) During this period, Applicant maxed out his credit cards (SOR 1.i, $9,484 and SOR 1.o, $5,209). His last contact with the credit card companies was in 2008 or 2009. Since obtaining his current job in March 2010, he has not contacted the creditors. (Tr. 64) He stated it was a mistake to leave his well-paying job in order to start the Italian Ice store. Link to PDF: http://ogc.osd.mil/doha/industrial/2017/15-00836.h1.pdf
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I know I've love to see "Zybourne Financial Services" as the thread title, but this one is too good, "He stated it was a mistake to leave his well-paying job in order to start the Italian Ice store."
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Hoodwinker posted:I know I've love to see "Zybourne Financial Services" as the thread title, but this one is too good, "He stated it was a mistake to leave his well-paying job in order to start the Italian Ice store." Leaving a $100k job you went to grad school for to open an Italian ice store, with ten kids: BWM Doing so in March 2008: 
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