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UnknownMercenary posted:Body Expertise affecting bulldozers was too easily broken the way they did it, since DMRs can be fired full auto. If it restricted DMRs it'd be less silly. I also don't think Body Expertise should be split the way it is; the basic amount is pretty much never worth it while Overkill basic is incredibly powerful and the ace is just a small bonus as far as I'm concerned. And what about the fact it doesn't do full headshot damage now?
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Jun 28, 2017 10:57
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Fuuka Ayase posted:And what about the fact it doesn't do full headshot damage now? 90% doesn't move the key breakpoint much. A KSP still can get there, although notably a minigun cannot. I'm honestly reasonably happy with where Body Expertise wound up, especially compared to poo poo like Unseen Strike that doesn't work at all, or the nonsensical "Ammo Efficiency" ability atop the Sharpshooter tree. Also I have a new Gambler build! I never felt like I should be bringing docbags + inspire when I'm spending my perk deck entirely on team assist stuff that restores health and ammo teamwide, and I noticed the ammo bags I tended to carry instead were pretty superfluous considering the teamwide ammo restore from gambling, so I've started playing Gambler as a fire trap/trip mine build and it's pretty fuckin' fun. The full set of breaching charges definitely opens up how a lot of maps play and make it so I don't really miss ditching drill skills. The fire trap tripmines create strategic choke points that fill up with teamwide health/ammo restore drops! There's enough points left for either a full suite of silencer skills and a decent oppressor setup for Lil Friend + UZi/MicroUZI/Tec-9 fun, or going basic overkill with Little Friend + Street Sweeper or AA12 + Arbiter.
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Jun 28, 2017 11:24
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This is in the next Payday 2 update, right? If not, give me the download link.
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Jun 28, 2017 12:17
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It's a sad day when I can rely on my AI bots more then the vast majority of players these days. That said, the damage they do with the Reinfeld 880 and Thanatos .50 cal is absurd, coupled with armor piercing. What weapons have you given your AI bots?
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Jun 28, 2017 14:19
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TopHatGenius posted:It's a sad day when I can rely on my AI bots more then the vast majority of players these days. Also, dinosaur masks. They're like speed holes.  Look at them! They're almost as small as the Judge! chairface posted:90% doesn't move the key breakpoint much. A KSP still can get there, although notably a minigun cannot. I'm honestly reasonably happy with where Body Expertise wound up, especially compared to poo poo like Unseen Strike that doesn't work at all, or the nonsensical "Ammo Efficiency" ability atop the Sharpshooter tree. Edit: Yes. 32 becomes 44.44 and a silenced KSP can shoot well over that. maswastaken fucked around with this message at 15:33 on Jun 28, 2017 |
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Jun 28, 2017 15:14
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maswastaken posted:The silliest looking gun I could think of. Unfortunately, it's also one of the completely OP ones. One of your bots looks really familiar...
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Jun 28, 2017 15:41
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Fuuka Ayase posted:And what about the fact it doesn't do full headshot damage now? 90% wouldn't change the fact that DMRs with Body expertise would make dozers a total joke.
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Jun 28, 2017 16:30
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Minigun dozer exists. Discuss.
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Jun 28, 2017 17:39
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maswastaken posted:Minigun dozer exists. Discuss. Hell yeah
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Jun 28, 2017 17:40
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maswastaken posted:Minigun dozer exists. Discuss. What Yes What
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Discendo Vox posted:What quote:Yes quote:What
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Jun 28, 2017 18:18
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maswastaken posted:Is this still true when you remember full headshot damage is 125%? Exactly. It takes silencer skills but those are a good idea with an LMG anyway just to bump up stab/acc, and 44.44 is reachable with only basic specialized killing for KSP, RPK and Brenner, probably others as well.
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Jun 28, 2017 22:07
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So does the desync beta go live on the 30th or is that just when the crime spree changes go live? E: Found the answer to my question. Looks like they are pushing the crime spree patch and then reactivating the beta with the new crime spree stuff. https://www.reddit.com/r/paydaytheheist/comments/6k2d2y/recap_of_the_changes_coming_in_the_crime_spree/?st=j4i0dgkz&sh=8288c443 FalloutGod fucked around with this message at 06:51 on Jun 29, 2017 |
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Jun 29, 2017 02:52
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Does this game just have bad controller support or something? I was using a controller on my first night of playing and it worked fine, but now it's not working. It works fine in all my other games, and I updated the drivers and all that stuff, but it just doesn't want to work in payday 2. E:Nevermind! I brushed the xinput/direct input switch by accident on my controller. I guess payday only takes xinput. tweet my meat fucked around with this message at 03:11 on Jun 29, 2017 |
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Jun 29, 2017 03:02
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maswastaken posted:Minigun dozer exists. Discuss. Pffft. RPG dozer, please.
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quote:When downloading this update your current Crime Spree will disappear, we highly recommend claiming your rewards before downloading the update. Any unclaimed rewards will be lost when the update is installed. Too bad most people are only going to see this after booting up Steam and beginning the update, Overkill, you loving idiots.  Edit: There was apparently a single advance mention of this hidden in the patch notes for one of the beta updates. Overkill, you loving idiots. John Murdoch fucked around with this message at 17:13 on Jun 29, 2017 |
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Jun 29, 2017 17:04
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It didn't affect me because I have no idea what Crime Spree is. What's the consensus on best guns? I've gotten a few to me worthless skins while hoping for a Nitro Skin for my Car4 so I figure I might see if any of them are for guns that are worth using while I wait on that Car foreskin.
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Jun 29, 2017 19:14
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John Murdoch posted:Too bad most people are only going to see this after booting up Steam and beginning the update, Overkill, you loving idiots. And I have almost gathered half of the coins back to continue my spree and claim the rewards because the game crashed to desktop and we lost the match. I love these guys, seriously, but sometimes they can be absolutely bumbling dumbfucks.
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Jun 29, 2017 19:21
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Jim DiGriz posted:And I have almost gathered half of the coins back to continue my spree and claim the rewards because the game crashed to desktop and we lost the match. I love these guys, seriously, but sometimes they can be absolutely bumbling dumbfucks.
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Jun 29, 2017 19:46
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I'm also losing crime spree but like, who cares? I'll just do it again, it's not like we're losing all our infamy levels or something like that. 
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juliuspringle posted:It didn't affect me because I have no idea what Crime Spree is. What's the consensus on best guns? Depends on just what you're trying to do, but from common likes: Primary: Rifles - JP36 (basically infinite ammo bullet hose), CAR-4 (DMR kit in particular), Clarion (high conceal bullet hose), Little Friend (Grenade launcher with a gun attached) LMG - Brenner (most accurate), Buzzsaw (best for bipods), KSP (middle ground, deep ammo pool) Shotguns - IZHMA (concealable auto shottie), Breaker (slow heavy hitter), Raven (concealable middle ground) Snipers - Thanatos (mass damage) Other - Akimbo Interceptors (best rounded akimbo pistols), GL40 (concealable explosives) Secondary: Pistol - Bronco (stupid damage + concealment), 5/7 AP (shield-piercing, high damage), Broomstick (pocket DMR) SMG - CR 805B/Krinkov (high damage accurate backup), Micro Uzi (concealable bullet hose) Shotgun - Judge (high damage concealable), Goliath (high capacity Dragons Breath launcher), Locomotive (good all-arounder) Other - Arbiter (super-accurate grenade launcher), Commando 101 (the RPG+) A lot of other weapons are just as good/interesting/niche useful, but those are what I hear people talk about the most often.
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Jun 29, 2017 23:39
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A list without the China Puff is a bad list E: also the new Castigo revolver is better for concealment builds unless your build is dependent on having 33 concealment.
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Jun 29, 2017 23:44
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Tempest_56 posted:Depends on just what you're trying to do, but from common likes: I've been using a Gruber Kurz and a Car 4 since I started playing.
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UnknownMercenary posted:A list without the China Puff is a bad list Eh, I've mostly stopped with the China Puff in favor of the Arbiter, personally. The range, larger magazine, higher total ammo and faster reload beat out the extra damage. Sure sometimes you need that second grenade, but you've got two and a half times the ammo. juliuspringle posted:I've been using a Gruber Kurz and a Car 4 since I started playing. CAR's not a great weapon over all, but it really shines with the DMR kit. It's workable normally and is flexible, but it's pretty bland stat-wise. The Gruber's interesting, though. Great ammo pickup, very concealable. Somebody posted up a Gruber crit build recently that's been interesting to use lately.
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Non-DMR CAR-4 is a great weapon to get crits without acing Low Blow
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Jun 30, 2017 02:38
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Qualifying this with "console" but G3 DMR is what I have most success with. Used to main a full auto falcon and then moved up. As far as jobs I am getting crushed on casino. What are the right casino super loud assets? There's so many of them.
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Jun 30, 2017 06:18
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Finally got around to playing some more and we did the basic bank heist. Took like 3 tries to learn but we had it down flawlessly on the fourth when we got the security room and the vault to spawn in the ideal spots.
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Jun 30, 2017 06:21
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Having Winters shields replace normal shields is ok as a modifier but they need to tone down the numbers. They have about 10x the HP and take less damage, but that's not even the biggest problem. This biggest problem is they're physically a much larger unit than normal shields and can hem players into corners, stunlocking them for all intents and purposes. Plenty of maps, of course, occur in confined spaces. That is neither a fun nor fair way to lose. For balance purposes, their spawn needs to be reduced. Also, converting the new zeal sniper unit seems to crash the game. Anyone else get this problem?
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Jun 30, 2017 15:07
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One can get so caught up in CharOping that they lose sight of certain things. Like the fact I loved the Raven the moment I first used it, but parted with it to make sure I gave everything I could a fair shake. I've even had a skin for it for the longest time.
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I tried the build with the smoke-grenade that gives the buffs. I am sure you can make some real broken poo poo out of that, but for me, as a stupid dodge build runner, it really doesn't offer enough actual dodging.
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The thing with Sicario's dodge is that, much like Biker's regen procs, it gets better the worse you happen to need it at the moment. Getting hit increases your chance of dodging the next attack with Sicario, and a successful dodge restores armor, so it winds up being a much more consistent defense than traditional dodge for crook/rogue/burglar. The smoke grenade is also an excellent "oh poo poo" button that can definitely get you through some rough spots. Much like rogue/crook/burglar, Sicario occasionally has to health tank while lacking any built-in health regen, so bringing along jokers for the bonus health + movespeed and taking basic hostage taker to get any health regen at all is highly recommended. Honestly I consider Sicario up there with Kingpin and Maniac as a valid buddy for the Crew Chief + Gambler team since the smoke grenade benefits everyone and compliments concussion grenades so well for moving through bad situations unharmed. Sicario also gains a lot of benefit from having a Crew Chief around to give the Sicario bonus health, stamina and damage reduction, and having the Gambler around to provide badly-needed health restore and the always-popular ammo procs. It's a good deck standalone and it's a good deck in the whole Crystal Gem Thief team setup.
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swims posted:Qualifying this with "console" but G3 DMR is what I have most success with. Used to main a full auto falcon and then moved up. Extra battery, double coolant tanks, van escape if possible. the central hall is the biggest danger zone of the heist, as is the drilling process. Use the side bathroom as a holdout. Discendo Vox fucked around with this message at 13:44 on Jul 1, 2017 |
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Van escape is non negotiable except for the speedrun achievement.
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UnknownMercenary posted:Van escape is non negotiable except for the speedrun achievement. Yeah. Van, cooling tanks, and whatever else you can fit. The battery is nice since it reduces number of points to defend but two people up top + two people below can cover two plugs and the BFD just fine.
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Jul 1, 2017 19:01
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What are the quickest and easiest heists to solo stealth? I enjoy playing with friends but am wanting to grind out some cash to start unlocking things. unfortunately playing solo is a dreadful slog that takes 90% of the fun out of the game so I just want to get the grind over with so I can get to a decent level to flesh out my skill tree and unlock guns.
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Jul 1, 2017 20:07
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harvest and trustee heists are quite stealthable and have a nice payoff. jewelry store is even easier and has a mediocre payoff but doing it on one down will get you past the crap levels fast enough.
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Jul 1, 2017 20:10
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Diamond Store's loose loot is absurdly good on higher difficulties.
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Wow I just knocked out a 3 runs on jewelry store and yeah it's easy as poo poo. I kinda started out on the harder missions because I enjoyed the big heist movie feel, but the simple poo poo is consistent and stress free on solo.
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If you don't use the kunai with a joker build to orally purge the evil from your disciple's soul before turning him over to the righteous side of crime, you're doing it wrong 
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