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What is going to be your favorite offseason storyline? This poll is closed. |
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| The Big3 Tourney |
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67 | 22.41% |
| Will Lakers draft Ball |
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40 | 13.38% |
| Where will the Pauls go |
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54 | 18.06% |
| Will LeBron jump ship to the Spurs or ?? |
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41 | 13.71% |
| Will every team in the league just pivot towards tanking |
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97 | 32.44% |
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https://twitter.com/WindhorstESPN/status/881380856635326464 :eyesemoji:
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Jul 2, 2017 06:30
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wow that's a big discount
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Jul 2, 2017 06:31
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Reminder that the Portland Trailblazers still have more salary than Cleveland or Golden State after all the signings
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Jul 2, 2017 06:33
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Salvor_Hardin posted:Who was the guy that said Iggy was totally gonna get 20M+ AAV? I think that was the expectation. I remember seeing it lots of places and from multiple people here. I was certainly expecting more than 16 and I'm not convinced he didn't give them a bit of a sweetheart deal like Livingston. PJ Tucker is getting 1 mil less per year than Livingston and more years.
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Jul 2, 2017 06:35
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Tae posted:Reminder that the Portland Trailblazers still have more salary than Cleveland or Golden State after all the signings 
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Jul 2, 2017 06:41
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Point God already paying dividends
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Jul 2, 2017 06:42
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https://twitter.com/ramonashelburne/status/881386273449009152
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Jul 2, 2017 06:46
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Tae posted:Reminder that the Portland Trailblazers still have more salary than Cleveland or Golden State after all the signings Paul Allen is worth almost 3x Dan Gilbert and Joe Lacob combined. He can afford it!
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Jul 2, 2017 06:55
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Eat the rich
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Jul 2, 2017 06:58
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Eltoasto posted:Team value doesn't mean anything unless you sell the team. National TV and merch outside the arena is all split, so it comes down to tickets and local TV deals to finance deep luxury tax spending. I can't find any recent stuff about their TV deal. Also we now have the sponsor logos which they are saying is worth 15-20 mil a year, well that's what they are asking for. It will be interesting to see the Warriors deal with a cap hell worse than what Miami dealt with.
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Jul 2, 2017 06:59
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DeimosRising posted:I think that was the expectation. I remember seeing it lots of places and from multiple people here. I was certainly expecting more than 16 and I'm not convinced he didn't give them a bit of a sweetheart deal like Livingston. PJ Tucker is getting 1 mil less per year than Livingston and more years. Yeah sorry if that was confrontational. I just didn't feel like Iggy would command anywhere near Millsap.
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Jul 2, 2017 07:05
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Tae posted:Reminder that the Portland Trailblazers still have more salary than Cleveland or Golden State after all the signings No they don't. KD is in the process of signing but technically isn't on the cap this very moment.
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Jul 2, 2017 07:09
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this is weird and cool
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Jul 2, 2017 07:13
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AggressivelyStupid posted:Eat the rich
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Jul 2, 2017 07:20
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DeimosRising posted:I think that was the expectation. I remember seeing it lots of places and from multiple people here. I was certainly expecting more than 16 and I'm not convinced he didn't give them a bit of a sweetheart deal like Livingston. PJ Tucker is getting 1 mil less per year than Livingston and more years. I think Kings may have offered the most. But their number never leaked. Also it's the Kings, Andre ain't signing there
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Jul 2, 2017 07:43
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How the gently caress can GS sign Durant? CUrry 40, klay 18, iggy 16, draymond 16. Thats 90. Cap is 99 correct? Or is Curry deal like 34 this year and 46 last year or something? Either way, it doesnt seem like they should be able to do it. I need read the rules sometime when I get depressed. Edit: forgot about Livingston's $8m. So they are at 92ish wo KD?
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Jul 2, 2017 07:43
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ButtWolf posted:How the gently caress can GS sign Durant? CUrry 40, klay 18, iggy 16, draymond 16. Thats 90. Cap is 99 correct? Or is Curry deal like 34 this year and 46 last year or something? Either way, it doesnt seem like they should be able to do it. I need read the rules sometime when I get depressed. They can go over the cap to re-sign Curry, so he doesn't affect their available cap space, I think if I understand the rules correctly
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Jul 2, 2017 07:47
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I'm guessing he gets the Non-Bird exception
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Jul 2, 2017 07:53
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Carlosologist posted:They can go over the cap to re-sign Curry, so he doesn't affect their available cap space, I think if I understand the rules correctly He still affects their cap. Exceptions still count against the cap, you can just go over the cap to sign them. I'm pretty sure the Non-Bird exception is the only exception that KD would qualify for at this point.
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Jul 2, 2017 08:01
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You can always go over the cap to re-sign your current players. For filling in, the Dubs have one exception at $5.2 million and everything else will have to be at minimum. Durant and Iggy alone will put them somewhere around $10-15 million over the luxury tax threshold with only 10 players on the roster.
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Jul 2, 2017 08:09
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Its voodoo Their cap numbers phase in and out of reality. It's the only explanation.
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Jul 2, 2017 08:15
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One or two more years of warriors superteam. Then they'll just be Really Good
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Jul 2, 2017 08:22
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From ESPNquote:Golden State now has $130M in guaranteed contracts that include the three-year, $48M Andre Iguodala contract and $31.8M projected Kevin Durant salary. If the Warriors fill out their roster with minimum contracts their total salaries will be $137.5M with a luxury tax bill of $40.2M. That's a pretty hefty price tag
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Jul 2, 2017 08:24
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rjmccall posted:You can always go over the cap to re-sign your current players. For filling in, the Dubs have one exception at $5.2 million and everything else will have to be at minimum. im almost sure this is wrong. you need some kind of bird rights to do this, no? the warriors dont have that for kd the reason they can do it is cause they do have bird rights on curry and his cap hold is based on his previous contract(since he hasnt officially signed one yet i think) which was astonishingly low. they get right up at the cap with durant, then sign curry with bird rights and they are done. they should also have bird rights on iggy. some cap wizard check me imo
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Jul 2, 2017 08:26
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Ammanas posted:From ESPN That repeater tax in 3 years...
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Jul 2, 2017 08:28
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http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q25quote:NON-BIRD EXCEPTION -- This is also a component of the Veteran Free Agent exception. Its name is somewhat of a misnomer, since Non-Bird really is a form of Bird rights. Players who qualify for this exception are called "Non-Qualifying Veteran Free Agents" in the CBA. They are veteran free agents who are neither Qualifying Veteran Free Agents nor Early Qualifying Veteran Free Agents, and include the following:
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Jul 2, 2017 08:30
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ButtWolf posted:How the gently caress can GS sign Durant? CUrry 40, klay 18, iggy 16, draymond 16. Thats 90. Cap is 99 correct? Or is Curry deal like 34 this year and 46 last year or something? Either way, it doesnt seem like they should be able to do it. I need read the rules sometime when I get depressed. 99 is the cap but you can go up to like 119 before you hit the luxury. You can always go above the 99 soft cap to re-sign your own players, which is all GSW is doing -- signing Iggy, Curry, Durant, Livingston etc etc. Two Tone Shoes fucked around with this message at 08:39 on Jul 2, 2017 |
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Jul 2, 2017 08:36
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All the stuff about Bird vs. Early Bird vs. Non-Bird just limits how much you can offer them (in both annual money and years). You can always re-sign your existing players for at least a modest increase over what they're currently being paid; they just might not be willing to come back for that. For example, Patrick McCaw has only been with the Warriors for one year, so if he were a free agent, we would only be able to offer him up to 120% of the greater of the league minimum and his current salary. If he were a free agent next year, after he has been here two whole years, we would be able to offer him up to the greater of the league average or 175% of his current salary. Two years from now — when he actually becomes a free agent — we can offer him a max. Durant was on a near-max contract last year, so the distinctions are meaningless.
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Jul 2, 2017 08:43
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honestly Bob Myers and co had the next 5 years already thought through back when they were courting KD in the Hamptons 
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Jul 2, 2017 10:13
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Intruder posted:Point God already paying dividends I guess he learned he needed to do this poo poo from the lack of playoff success he had in Nola and la when he didn't. AD needs to take note.
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Jul 2, 2017 10:37
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the suns should do something good this offseason
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Jul 2, 2017 11:42
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rjmccall posted:All the stuff about Bird vs. Early Bird vs. Non-Bird just limits how much you can offer them (in both annual money and years). You can always re-sign your existing players for at least a modest increase over what they're currently being paid; they just might not be willing to come back for that. I guess this needs to be more thorough. They could sign Durant for a non bird exception but that limits his raises. They're going to have Durant do one more year so they get bird rights and they can give him bigger raises. Bashez fucked around with this message at 13:00 on Jul 2, 2017 |
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Jul 2, 2017 12:54
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The main reason GSW can do this is because Curry's cap hold is much smaller than the Super Mega Max he will sign after all the other pieces are in place.
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Jul 2, 2017 12:59
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As someone who is not really in tune with the nuts and bolts of the NBA I want to ask a dumb question. Why does everyone in the media assume Lebron and every all star on the planet are going to the Lakers in 2018? I was under the impression that the Lakers had lost a lot of their luster due to front office mediocrity. Is it really all about the legacy factor or are they heading for a perfect storm of salary cap space and free agency? California has a massive amount of taxes and you still have to make it through the west and eventually the Warriors. (Also I know Paul George made his intentions clear already but it doesn't explain everyone else.)
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Jul 2, 2017 13:00
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I think if they can move Deng and maybe one other player, they would only have Ingram, Ball, and 1 or 2 other guys under contract if they don't keep Randle next year and can theoretically sign 3 (THREE) Max players next summer. I think...
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Jul 2, 2017 13:06
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So the order of contracts matter and nothing has been signed yet.Ghost Dog posted:
This is correct. They are keeping Curry's hold, Livingston's, and Iggy's. The sign Durant first with their cap space (he needs to take a small discount to fit, that is why he is the only one "sacrificing"), then everyone else can be signed using the cap space. They'll get everyone to agree to the deals in whatever order but when it gets reported to the league it'll matter in what order.
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Jul 2, 2017 14:01
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Do the Warriors have a single center on their roster?
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Jul 2, 2017 14:08
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Trast posted:As someone who is not really in tune with the nuts and bolts of the NBA I want to ask a dumb question. Why does everyone in the media assume Lebron and every all star on the planet are going to the Lakers in 2018? I was under the impression that the Lakers had lost a lot of their luster due to front office mediocrity. Is it really all about the legacy factor or are they heading for a perfect storm of salary cap space and free agency? California has a massive amount of taxes and you still have to make it through the west and eventually the Warriors. 1. A large proportion of the media live in LA and think it's the bee's knees and can't imagine why anyone else wouldn't think so too. 2. Historically the Lakers have had a lot of success luring free agents there, 2.1 partially because some players think LA is the bee's knees 2.2 and partially because a ton of player agents live in LA and drive their clients to Los Angeles because that way they don't have to travel far too meet them and keep them happy
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Jul 2, 2017 14:51
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dokmo posted:1. A large proportion of the media live in LA and think it's the bee's knees and can't imagine why anyone else wouldn't think so too.
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Jul 2, 2017 15:12
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Sixers waived Stauskas Source: A dream I had last night
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