Warhammer 40,000: 8th Time's the Charm

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Miles O'Brian: May 22, 2006; All we have to lose is our chains

chutche2 posted:

Is it weird that I really like metal miniatures?

Like I've been buying some 2nd and 3rd edition metal sculpts of stuff I need like apothecaries and chaplains just because I love metal minis. 40k has better sculpts than warmachine by far, but I love that I can easily build all-metal forces out of my warmachine collection. Some of my basic infantry and warjacks are plastic now, but a lot of poo poo is still metal.

My friends think that this is dumb.

I went through my metal phase and bought into a sisters of battle army but it's at that point you realise that lugging literally kilogrammes around every battle is a chore. I also got big into converting an customising for which metal doesn't even come close.

Add the paint chipping and I've pretty much forsaken metal forever. Still love some metal models as display pieces but for gaming, gently caress that poo poo forever

# ? Jul 2, 2017 01:36

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# ? May 14, 2024 08:05

raverrn: Apr 5, 2005; Unidentified spacecraft inbound from delta line.

All Silpheed squadrons scramble now!

I just got my hands on the Nurgle half of the new starter, anyone out there want to trade it for the Primaris one?

# ? Jul 2, 2017 02:27

OhDearGodNo: Jan 3, 2014

Miles O'Brian posted:

Add the paint chipping and I've pretty much forsaken metal forever. Still love some metal models as display pieces but for gaming, gently caress that poo poo forever

Testors Dullcote protects from chipping like you wouldn't believe.

# ? Jul 2, 2017 03:04

The Bee: Nov 25, 2012; Making his way to the ring . . .
from Deep in the Jungle . . .

The Big Monkey!

Did Games Workshop ever comment on the point discrepancies between the Dark Imperium pamphlet and the Imperium and Chaos indices? It seems so weird to me that the point values would be so divergent between the two.

# ? Jul 2, 2017 03:16

Pidgin Englishman: Apr 30, 2007; If you shoot
you better hit your mark

I played your '8th' edition and had.. fun?! What is this, GW?

Poxwalker rule supreme (with a comfy typhus for support).

# ? Jul 2, 2017 03:58

Lovely Joe Stalin: Jun 12, 2007; Our Lovely Wang

I played my first game of 8th today, 60 points of Death Guard vs 60 points of Salamanders. It was an awful lot of fun. The game plays so much better, and it feels like there is an awful lot more happening. Guys were dying left and right. It's 40k but without the tedious fiddly minutiae.

Best moment for me was Typhus wiping out a tactical squad with the Destroyer Hive.

# ? Jul 2, 2017 04:07

Crab Dad: Dec 28, 2002; behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB

Primaris marines look great with beaky helmets. Shaved off the purity seals and scopes too.

Beefy!

# ? Jul 2, 2017 04:29

LordAba: Oct 22, 2012; by FactsAreUseless

Nurgle lord? Can kill 9 termagaunts a turn. Tervigon? Can bring back 10 a turn.

Get hosed.

That was my first game of 8th edition.

# ? Jul 2, 2017 04:52

GreenMarine: Apr 25, 2009; Switchblade Switcharoo

LingcodKilla posted:

Primaris marines look great with beaky helmets. Shaved off the purity seals and scopes too.

Beefy!

Now that you mention it, it's a bit weird that they have scopes if they have autosenses. Maybe they are playing into the tendency for marines to remove their helms all the time to look suitably masculine.

# ? Jul 2, 2017 04:57

Crab Dad: Dec 28, 2002; behold i have tempered and refined thee, but not as silver; as CRAB

GreenMarine posted:

Now that you mention it, it's a bit weird that they have scopes if they have autosenses. Maybe they are playing into the tendency for marines to remove their helms all the time to look suitably masculine.

Duh. I cut off the helmet on the belt and mounted an auspex then put a beaky helmet on the sarg too. YOU DONT TAKE YOUR ARMOR OFF ON THE BATTLEFIELD SERGEANT TUBEBABY!!!!!

# ? Jul 2, 2017 04:58

Mugaaz: Mar 1, 2008; WHY IS THERE ALWAYS SOME JUSTICE WARRIOR ON EVERY FORUM

First poxwalker done. Think I'll do the same scheme for the rest. Feels good to be painting again, been a while.

# ? Jul 2, 2017 05:23

PantsOptional: Dec 27, 2012; All I wanna do is make you bounce

I had my first game of 8th earlier today (well, yesterday technically) and it was pretty drat good. I took 52 PL of SM up against 52 of Dark Angels. I'm actually a little glad that he didn't bring the Necrons that I thought he was bringing, because I wasn't looking forward to an ever-regenerating bunch of 20-man Warrior blobs. We did the basic Only War match and ended up with every objective generating points every turn for both players, which gave us an insanely high count for VP (19-16 in my favor).

I took 2 Tac Squads in Rhinos (combimelta/flamer/multimelta and combimelta/meltagun/multimelta), a Bike Squad (combimelta, grav-gun, flamer, and multimelta Attack Bike), a thunder hammer and storm shield bike Captain, a Devastator squad with 4 lascannons, and an Apothecary.

He took a Deathwing Terminator squad, a Ravenwing Bike squad, some greenwing shmucks, an Interrogator Chaplain, a Librarian, and a Venerable Dreadnought. I don't remember most of what they had except there was a lot of plasma and the Deathwing had an assault cannon. The Chaplain had a plasma pistol, which I only really remember because he blew himself up in supercharged overwatch against my Captain like a big dumb rear end in a top hat.

When we started I had some notions of taking notes but by turn 3 we had really gotten into it and had gathered a couple of onlookers, so I stopped. It was mostly just me writing down how the Ravenwing were "a bunch of bitches" anyway so it's probably better that I don't provide a full batrep. Here's what stood out:

Deep Strike is pretty great now. The Deathwing popped in on turn 1 next to my Devs and ate their lunch real hard, whereas before he might have hesitated to drop the Deathwing so close to the table edge.
While Bikes cost a lot, they're completely loving insane. Rolling up with 4 Bikes and dropping 22 bolter shots on top of the special weapons was completely ridiculous. Bumping them up to 2 Wounds also made a huge difference, as both of our Bike units just held on forever.
Shooting pistols in close combat is amazing. We both forgot that we could do it for about a round and then it was like a revelation. But also gently caress him for being real hot on the dice in this regard.
Dark Angels Librarians are basically a no man's land of mortal wounds - Smite on top of Mind Worm was pretty loving gross. Park one of those on an objective with an Intercessor squad screening for him and you'll have a real tough time digging him out.
Command Points and Stratagems are so loving vital. Even just the basic three stratagems can make a huge difference. At one point his Ven Dread charged my Captain and I thought it was going to all be over very soon for the Captain, but I spent 2 CP on Counter-Offensive after he resolved his first charging unit's attacks elsewhere and managed to beat the absolute hell out of the Dread before it got in its attacks.
Vehicles feel much tankier now than before. I won this game because I sat two Rhinos down next to two objectives and kept them there the whole game.
It feels so good not to have to care about so much of the bloat of previous editions. Challenges, initiative order, the test at the end of an assault that never really mattered for most units anyways, vehicle facing, armor values, the wound table... it really did make the game feel like it went a lot more smoothly.
Don't loving trust Battlescribe, if that ever really needed to be said. Definitely double-check against the index, because there were two separate occasions where their statlines and rule summaries were flat out wrong.

All in all, even with the first game taking longer than normal since it was both our first times, it was generally agreed to be quite good. It did kind of feel weird, though - it was all close enough to what we knew that we weren't thrown horribly, but it was also different enough that we were a little off-guard. Like going to the house you grew up in only to find that your parents had rearranged some of the furniture - you know the general layout but you might trip on something every now and then.

# ? Jul 2, 2017 05:42

Der Waffle Mous: Nov 27, 2009; In the grim future, there is only commerce.

minor thing but apparently the digital version of the index fixed the stormtalon's strafing run typo.

And yeah, battlescribe is a bit weird I've really only ever used it for the points costs and never really trusted the list validation thing.

# ? Jul 2, 2017 05:45

LordAba: Oct 22, 2012; by FactsAreUseless

PantsOptional posted:

Dark Angels Librarians are basically a no man's land of mortal wounds - Smite on top of Mind Worm was pretty loving gross. Park one of those on an objective with an Intercessor squad screening for him and you'll have a real tough time digging him out.

I can't wait to try a unit of 4 zoanthropes in a pod because of this. An average of 4 mortal wounds is pretty good, and the new psyker rules remove a lot of failure conditions that zoanthropes previously had.

EDIT: Plus a 3+ invul and being able to smite into combat/escape combat and smite makes them a lot harder to take out.

LordAba fucked around with this message at 05:57 on Jul 2, 2017

# ? Jul 2, 2017 05:55

Lovely Joe Stalin: Jun 12, 2007; Our Lovely Wang

I forgot to mention my other favourite thing from my game, Typhus nuking half his own wounds with chain Perils rolls.

# ? Jul 2, 2017 05:58

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GreenMarine posted:

Now that you mention it, it's a bit weird that they have scopes if they have autosenses. Maybe they are playing into the tendency for marines to remove their helms all the time to look suitably masculine.

Optical zoom.
Also firing their gun over and around cover/corners.

# ? Jul 2, 2017 06:10

Beer4TheBeerGod: Aug 23, 2004; Exciting Lemon

WhiteWolf123 posted:

Got another game of 8th edition in today.

1. Orks are good, and they murder poo poo in close combat (which happens on T2 with regularity).
2. Orks have a problem dealing with flyers.

Flyers are definitely a challenge. I think Stormboyz might be helpful.

# ? Jul 2, 2017 06:38

JackMack: Nov 3, 2007

Mugaaz posted:

First poxwalker done. Think I'll do the same scheme for the rest. Feels good to be painting again, been a while.

I love it. I like the necrotic look of his abdomen, and the buboes. If you had told me you were going to stripe the the tentacles I woul d not have thought it would look as good as it does! The use of orange in both his trousers and his burst pustules is the only thing I might reconsider

# ? Jul 2, 2017 06:51

Pendent: Nov 16, 2011; The bonds of blood transcend all others.
But no blood runs stronger than that of Sanguinius; Grimey Drawer

Speaking as someone who leaned really heavily on a pair of Stormtalons against an Ork army, melee just doesn't cut it against flyers. My opponent was able to get a good charge off with his Stormboyz but only knocked a few wounds off my flyer which proceeded to fall back and shoot him to pieces from a safe distance.

If I were a good player he never would have got that charge off at all, and there's zero chance that the Stormboyz would have been able to catch my flyers after the first assault. The difference in movement capability is just too much.

# ? Jul 2, 2017 06:52

Mugaaz: Mar 1, 2008; WHY IS THERE ALWAYS SOME JUSTICE WARRIOR ON EVERY FORUM

JackMack posted:

I love it. I like the necrotic look of his abdomen, and the buboes. If you had told me you were going to stripe the the tentacles I woul d not have thought it would look as good as it does! The use of orange in both his trousers and his burst pustules is the only thing I might reconsider

It was supposed to be blood in the burst pustules. Yeah that part didnt really come out to well, not sure what else to try with the burst pustules, any ideas?

# ? Jul 2, 2017 06:59

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