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Wasn't everyone excited to see how Clover was going to turn out then it turned out to be exactly what people should have expected it to be?
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iospace posted:Wasn't everyone excited to see how Clover was going to turn out then it turned out to be exactly what people should have expected it to be? No, everyones excited for Sage. Which is a serious attempt at making a Pokemon fangame, Clover is, from its own thread description. quote:Pokémon Clover is a Q U A L I T Y/IRONICALLY lovely romhack featuring a brand new region called Fochun, as well as 386 fresh new fakemon that puts those other ghetto Pokemon fan games to shame! Clover has been an ongoing project for a team comprised together from anonymous posters on the /vp/ board. Started in 2014 as a janky FireRed rehash, it has since become a complete ROM overhaul featuring new maps, characters, story, and a completely original soundtrack. People are actually interested in Sage http://capx.wikia.com/wiki/About quote:Pokémon Sage is a Pokémon fan-game, created by the anonymous members of 4chan's /vp/ board. It began as the project CAPX, which stands for "Create a Pokédex", and was simply a collaborative attempt to design a set of new Pokémon (fakemon). It was later decided to create a fan-game that used them, and thus /vp/ Makes A Game (also known as Gen /vp/) began. This was later renamed to Pokémon Sage.
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Jul 2, 2017 15:38
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Onmi posted:No, everyones excited for Sage. Which is a serious attempt at making a Pokemon fangame, Clover is, from its own thread description. Sage has the best fakemon of all the fan games. Shame the rest is so off. However bad you think Clover is, it's worse. I'm talking KKK themed pokemon.
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Jul 2, 2017 15:44
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Dienes posted:Sage has the best fakemon of all the fan games. Shame the rest is so off. I have negative interest in Clover. I find poo poo like it at Snakewood to just be complete garbage and not at all worth the brain cells. I play enough awful Pokemon fangames to dedicate an iota of thought to those.
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Jul 2, 2017 16:03
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Dienes posted:Sage has the best fakemon of all the fan games. Shame the rest is so off. So how is Sage, if it's out. And regarding the second... 
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Jul 2, 2017 16:13
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I don't think sage is out
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Jul 2, 2017 16:19
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Sage only has a Demo out, and it's pretty fine. Fun for what it is, isn't all that complete.
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Jul 2, 2017 16:29
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Sounds like if one could extricate some of the shittier jokes and memes from Clover, it'd probably be a fairly serviceable fan game since that's where the problems seem to lie as opposed to the writing AND the balance
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Jul 2, 2017 18:06
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Xelkelvos posted:Sounds like if one could extricate some of the shittier jokes and memes from Clover, it'd probably be a fairly serviceable fan game since that's where the problems seem to lie as opposed to the writing AND the balance
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Jul 2, 2017 21:19
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Dienes posted:However bad you think Clover is, it's worse. I'm talking KKK themed pokemon. Here are most of the more offensive designs I saw while playing the game. There are probably others, but overall they make up about 15% of the 386 fakemon in Clover or so.
Xelkelvos posted:Sounds like if one could extricate some of the shittier jokes and memes from Clover, it'd probably be a fairly serviceable fan game since that's where the problems seem to lie as opposed to the writing AND the balance That's the kicker: Clover has some actually good parts in it that don't deserve to be stuck in that game. There's a postgame area that actually pulls off a dark mood well, the Lavender Tower equivalent was genuinely fun and interesting with no strings attached, and in general the game could be very funny when it didn't just delve into memes or being offensive. But it does that way too frequently. I had fun playing it (which was much more than I was expecting), but it's definitely not worth playing. Just go on Youtube and listen to the soundtrack, that part I can recommend without any reservations. the Orb of Zot fucked around with this message at 21:43 on Jul 2, 2017 |
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Jul 2, 2017 21:39
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the Orb of Zot posted:A box of dragon dildos (which is somehow a BST 640 legendary) This made me laugh. I'm not sure if it's the mental image of a box of dildos being a pokemon, or if it's the fact that the stats are ludicrously good, but goddammit this one's funny.
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Jul 2, 2017 21:53
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TooMuchAbstraction posted:This made me laugh. I'm not sure if it's the mental image of a box of dildos being a pokemon, or if it's the fact that the stats are ludicrously good, but goddammit this one's funny. The kicker is where you find it in the postgame. It's in your basement. EDIT: Oh my god I just realized something horrible. That black stereotype I just mentioned learns every single HM in the game. Since HMs can be forgotten like regular moves in Clover, that makes it the perfect HM slave. That has to be intentional. the Orb of Zot fucked around with this message at 22:17 on Jul 2, 2017 |
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Jul 2, 2017 22:06
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You forgot the only ??? type pokemon: Adesign. 690 base stats, and probably the best cry I've ever heard. Clover does a lot of incredibly stupid poo poo, but about a fourth of it is pretty drat funny.
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Jul 2, 2017 22:16
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Power Bottom posted:probably the best cry I've ever heard. You did not lie.
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Jul 2, 2017 22:27
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Sage is a /vp/ game while Clover is a /b/ or /v/ game.
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Jul 2, 2017 22:39
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TooMuchAbstraction posted:This made me laugh. I'm not sure if it's the mental image of a box of dildos being a pokemon, or if it's the fact that the stats are ludicrously good, but goddammit this one's funny. I kinda liked that it seemed to be crassly satirizing how Gens IV and V went kind of crazy with the dragon-type legendaries. Still a lovely edgelord fangame, but credit where it's due.
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Jul 2, 2017 22:51
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palkia was already a dildo dragon
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Jul 2, 2017 22:54
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It's very telling, at least, that's it's made by people who understand the inner workings of a Pokemon game. They understand level curve and balance (somewhat) and I assume move pool and non-Legendary and non-pseudo-Legendary stats are in the reasonable range?the Orb of Zot posted:The kicker is where you find it in the postgame. Probably. There's also a counterpart that's a Pig Cop
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Jul 2, 2017 23:56
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So basically Clover is a raging success.
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Jul 3, 2017 01:36
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the Orb of Zot posted:The kicker is where you find it in the postgame. Most of the other ones are legit terrible, though. I could feel a gag forming after reading the semen Pokemon evolution line.
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Jul 3, 2017 02:40
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get that OUT of my face posted:I'm not gonna lie, I find that pretty funny. Partially because it's a weird little twist on the "finding embarrassing poo poo in the attic/basement" trope, partially because I'm immature. Take the weird "jumping into random people's bed" thing from S/M and have it be a way to immediately spawn one. Edit: Either that or by searching particular trash cans in bedrooms
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Jul 3, 2017 02:43
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Starter lines based around condoms, suicide bombers, and anal seepage. Good stuff, good stuff...
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Jul 3, 2017 03:14
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the Orb of Zot posted:EDIT: Oh my god I just realized something horrible. The game itself flatout states the "joke" if you can even call it that, so I'd imagine it is intentional. I don't know, there's some parts in the game that made me laugh. Like there's that kid in the first gym that says you're light years away from reaching Brock, then you step on a warp pad that takes you to Brock somewhere in outer space.
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Jul 3, 2017 03:51
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TooMuchAbstraction posted:This made me laugh. I'm not sure if it's the mental image of a box of dildos being a pokemon, or if it's the fact that the stats are ludicrously good, but goddammit this one's funny. It's two abilities are Rough Skin and Infiltrator.
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Jul 3, 2017 07:07
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Andorra posted:I don't know, there's some parts in the game that made me laugh. Like there's that kid in the first gym that says you're light years away from reaching Brock, then you step on a warp pad that takes you to Brock somewhere in outer space. Okay, that's actually pretty funny.
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Jul 3, 2017 07:50
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While I'm pretty sure they're both just dumb 4chan memes, I still got a chuckle out of two of the legendaries being the Eva-01 on a bicycle and Ridley with a fake mustache.
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Jul 3, 2017 08:07
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Kay Kessler posted:While I'm pretty sure they're both just dumb 4chan memes, I still got a chuckle out of two of the legendaries being the Eva-01 on a bicycle and Ridley with a fake mustache. In case you or someone else hasn't seen it, I present the best use of Eva on a bicycle: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SUamHEvVQy0
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Jul 3, 2017 08:19
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Man just looking at the list of pokemon in Clover makes me not want to touch it with a tenfoot pole ever Its just so immature
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Jul 3, 2017 09:28
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Hmmmm yes, i myself also demand only the most serious gameplay from my childrens cockfighting video game series
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Jul 3, 2017 17:15
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I get what you're trying to say, but there's a difference between Pokemon's standard cartoon villain plots and "heh, crusty cum monster".
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Jul 3, 2017 17:22
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Deceitful Penguin posted:Hmmmm yes, i myself also demand only the most serious gameplay from my childrens cockfighting video game series yes, i actually do demand that children's video game series not have really blatant racism/sexism
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Jul 3, 2017 17:23
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the Orb of Zot posted:[*] a Pokemon named "MOTHERFUCK" (it is Tentacool, Graveler, and Golbat combined into a single horrible Ground/Flying Pokemon with Shadow Tag and the combination of Spore + Destiny Bond + Perish Song, so it earns that name) Those legitimately got a giggle out of me. Flameboyan would be my boyfriend's favourite pokemon ever if it's Fairy type.
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Jul 3, 2017 17:46
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Brother Entropy posted:children's video game series Why do people keep saying this? It's not made by Nintendo, it's a fangame that uses the pokemon system as a base. It has literally zero obligation to adhere to the same content guidelines, but everybody keeps throwing the "this is out of place for a pokemon game" card like it means something. If you want ~the pokemon experience~ then just play pokemon instead of holding it against people for what's essentially extended fanfiction. I'm not arguing that the racism/sexism are okay, and passing on the game because of that is incredibly understandable, but there's plenty of other far worse problems or decent ideas executed poorly to complain about in these fangames without docking them points for not being accurate in tone to the official games.
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Jul 3, 2017 17:50
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Tone's kind of an important part of the Pokemon Experience, tho.
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Jul 3, 2017 17:52
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Brother Entropy posted:yes, i actually do demand that children's video game series not have really blatant racism/sexism  Nobody'd mind if it was just the Tentacool/Graveler/Golbat horror or the light years away from Brock thing, but racist/sexist/homophobic 'jokes' are a special brand of gross. Wrist Watch posted:Why do people keep saying this? It's not made by Nintendo, it's a fangame that uses the pokemon system as a base. It has literally zero obligation to adhere to the same content guidelines, but everybody keeps throwing the "this is out of place for a pokemon game" card like it means something. I've personally brought it up before because it's a quick way to highlight the difference in quality. You don't have to slavishly do the exact things the real games do, but it's worth taking a look at why they do these things since there's often a good reason for it.
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Jul 3, 2017 17:53
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idk I don't disagree that Clover is bad but it's kinda annoying to keep seeing "oh god, this is so terrible." it's lovely 4chan humor. What did you expect? They aimed to be offensive.
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Jul 3, 2017 17:58
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Tired Moritz posted:idk I don't disagree that Clover is bad but it's kinda annoying to keep seeing "oh god, this is so terrible." it's lovely 4chan humor. What did you expect? They aimed to be offensive. At least, I'd assume, unlike Reborn or Uranium, Clover is self-aware its full of offensive/silly/random stuff. Reborn or Uranium both seem to take themselves seriously.
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Jul 3, 2017 18:09
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Robindaybird posted:Tone's kind of an important part of the Pokemon Experience, tho. yeah the actual pokemon games have an incredibly charming tone that's fun to be around and even when these fangames aren't waist-deep in edgy fanfiction territory they seem mostly uninterested in trying to hit that tone hell i think that's why i liked the garlikid stuff, there was a definite quirkiness in his character there that the rest of uranium's lacked
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Jul 3, 2017 18:16
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Tired Moritz posted:idk I don't disagree that Clover is bad but it's kinda annoying to keep seeing "oh god, this is so terrible." it's lovely 4chan humor. What did you expect? They aimed to be offensive. I expect "humor" and mindsets like 4chan's to be continually mocked and marked as thoroughly not okay, instead of just throwing up our arms and going "oh that's just 4chan being silly again" and pretending it's ok to foster and normalize such a lovely pile of festering ideologies as that community.
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Wrist Watch posted:Why do people keep saying this? It's not made by Nintendo, it's a fangame that uses the pokemon system as a base. It has literally zero obligation to adhere to the same content guidelines, but everybody keeps throwing the "this is out of place for a pokemon game" card like it means something. fan games aren't required to play by the same rules as official games but they do still carry those same expectations with them when they have the same name, mechanics, and characters. it's like if you were playing metro or fallout and then suddenly a pikachu mauled you to death. it just feels weird
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