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At this point one has to credit Roman's in-ring abilities, they've grown into the level he's been put on. No, he's not one of the best ever, but he's not average either. I personally don't think he's ever going to get "60 minutes with a broomstick," good, I don't even think he's ever going to get to the point where he can be the guy leading the match, but he doesn't need those skills to put on great matches, which he does consistently. He has great chemistry with pretty much all of WWE's main eventers, and he does his half of the dance well every time. The matches that he's had recently that were terrible have to be laid more at the booking team's feet than his, including the Undertaker match. I'll never stop laughing at the lengthy naps he takes in basically every match, or his consistent failure to perform power moves right, but at the end of the day he's not a bad in-ring performer anymore. His problems and why he continues to be despised are unrelated.
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Alan_Shore posted:Lol you're right, Roman Reigns is definitely up there with Shawn Michaels, Daniel Bryan, Ric Flair, HHH, Seth Rollins, Undertaker, AJ Styles, and CM Punk. He's above Seth and HHH tbh
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The "Roman takes lengthy naps in matches" is confirmation bias. It's an extended sell spot for the babyface before a comeback, something in roughly 99% of WWF main events ever.
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I don't know if people know what "Getting gassed" means but if you actually hit the wall you are not doing a fast paced series of comeback spots after five minutes of rest.
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Roman is a better wrestler than Rollins or HHH. You heard it here first!
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Romans the best one though, dang
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Roman's a good wrestler, it's just consistently hilarious how hard WWE tries to push him as a powerhouse when he's more like a striker, and seeing him visibly strain to do power moves while Cole screams "The POWER of Roman Reigns!" will never not be funny. I can't understand how Vince & HHH see how much he struggles cutting promos and connecting with the crowd verbally in a way that he doesn't come off as an rear end in a top hat heel and they don't hire a good acting teacher for him, especially if they're planning on him being the ace of the company for the next several years. As the heir to Cena, Rock, Austin, Michaels, Hogan that poo poo's kind of important. Bret was the last sorta face of the company who couldn't talk very well, and that was over 20 years ago, and it was one of the things that probably held him back from being on top longer...and even HE was better than Reigns at it!
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Alan_Shore posted:Roman is a better wrestler than Rollins or HHH. You heard it here first! He is
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Feels Villeneuve posted:He is Your ideal wrestling match is 2 men punching each other followed by a spear? If that works for you I guess...
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Feels Villeneuve posted:The "Roman takes lengthy naps in matches" is confirmation bias. It's an extended sell spot for the babyface before a comeback, something in roughly 99% of WWF main events ever. Well, when I'm talking about his Naps its less about long sell spots and more about how he is consistently the least productive person in any multi-man match to the point where it sticks out like a sore thumb. We all remember the Royal Rumble where he Bravely Ran Away for a 20 minute break on his own power while barely even showing a limp, blatantly abusing a rules loophole because he had what looked like a modest owie based on his sell job. That's something one would expect from Miz, and it was done with the ostensible top babyface. Again though, this weakness falls on the bookers more than Roman, at least is has for the last 9 months or so. There was a time when those naps were very clearly because of bad cardio, now they're just because of bad match structure. The same goes for the lovely power moves to a point, although Roman has to take a decent sized chunk of the blame because he's the one deciding to keep doing them when he knows he can't at the end of the day.
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Jul 3, 2017 02:09
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Alan_Shore posted:Your ideal wrestling match is 2 men punching each other followed by a spear? If that works for you I guess... Is your idea of good wrestling 20 slow paced minutes leading to a bad sledgehammer spot?
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Feels Villeneuve posted:Is your idea of good wrestling 20 slow paced minutes leading to a bad sledgehammer spot? Don't forget sobbing after the loss and Snoopy walking to the back hoping for (and never getting) a Flair or Shawn retirement pop from the audience
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Alan_Shore posted:Your ideal wrestling match is 2 men punching each other followed by a spear? If that works for you I guess... it can be karate kicking or MMA throwing or tongan throat chopping or what have you, it doesn't have to just be punching, but yes pretty much. go goldberg
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Roman ' 7/10 ' Reigns
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Roman Reigns is underrated by fans and overrated by management
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Tokamak posted:Roman ' 7/10 ' Reigns Roman "  " Reigns
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roman reigns sucks worse than anyone in history, now can we please stop derailing the thread
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Bill Goldberg posted:roman reigns sucks worse than anyone in history, now can we please stop derailing the thread Somewhere between this and Roman Reigns Has Always Been Good is the truth. The Fashion Police are on the case.
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Sanguinia posted:Well, when I'm talking about his Naps its less about long sell spots and more about how he is consistently the least productive person in any multi-man match to the point where it sticks out like a sore thumb. We all remember the Royal Rumble where he Bravely Ran Away for a 20 minute break on his own power while barely even showing a limp, blatantly abusing a rules loophole because he had what looked like a modest owie based on his sell job. That's something one would expect from Miz, and it was done with the ostensible top babyface. So Roman Reigns is as good as Shinsuke Nakamura? That's very good!
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Bill Goldberg posted:can we please stop derailing the thread Okay WWE sucks
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Ragnarok the Red posted:The Fashion Police are on the case. I wonder who writes The Fashion Police stuff? Because it's real good stuff and while you couldn't make an entire show out of it, it's such a breath of fresh air in the middle of everything else going on.
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Alan_Shore posted:Lol you're right, Roman Reigns is definitely up there with Shawn Michaels, Daniel Bryan, Ric Flair, HHH, Seth Rollins, Undertaker, AJ Styles, and CM Punk. This but legitimately unironically, wrestlers could really do with making more with less imo
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Bill Goldberg posted:roman reigns sucks worse than anyone in history, now can we please stop derailing the thread It's the wwe thread
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Jerusalem posted:I wonder who writes The Fashion Police stuff? Because it's real good stuff and while you couldn't make an entire show out of it, it's such a breath of fresh air in the middle of everything else going on. Stephanie McMahon-Helmsley, naturally
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Was Wrestling always bad? All the time? Forever? At all intersections of time criss cross?
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Gatts posted:Was Wrestling always bad? All the time? Forever? At all intersections of time criss cross? Yes. But also no. I hope that clears things up.
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Alan_Shore posted:Lol you're right, Roman Reigns is definitely up there with Shawn Michaels, Daniel Bryan, Ric Flair, HHH, Seth Rollins, Undertaker, AJ Styles, and CM Punk. CM Punk was sloppy and got gassed and it didn't stop him from having great matches. Seth Rollins has been painfully average for the last year, Roman has definitely been better than him. Ric Flair did less moves than Roman and AJ thinks the Earth is flat and jerks off to Trump while Roman is a good dad and friend to all man. Wrestling is drama and build not moves, friend.
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MassRafTer posted:CM Punk was sloppy and got gassed and it didn't stop him from having great matches. dunno did you see the Gall match
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exploded mummy posted:dunno did you see the Gall match Had a great finish.
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MassRafTer posted:Had a great finish. 
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Jerusalem posted:Yes. But also no. Just saw Omega vs. Ishii. Can confirm wrestling was always good.
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Great Balls of Fire Week!!!!!!!!!!!1
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rovert posted:Great Balls of Fire Week!!!!!!!!!!!1 Now we are all sons of bitches.
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MassRafTer posted:Wrestling is drama and build not moves, friend.
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Pro Wrestling is about guys beating each other up and it doesn't really matter how they do it I dont give a gently caress if its all flips or all punches as long as its good
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Chris James 2 posted:WWE sucks Let's go WWE!
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WadeBartender posted:as long as its good Found the problem
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Romans matches all seem very planned out to an insane degree.
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