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FuriousxGeorge posted:I can't fathom any way the dems can lose in 2018. But this has never stopped them from losing before. exactly
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Squizzle please chill. It's too early in you reign to go mad with power.
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Jeb! Repetition posted:Squizzle please chill. It's too early in you reign to go mad with power. what point is power if not madness - probably said by an anime villain
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Jeb! Repetition posted:Squizzle please chill. It's too early in you reign to go mad with power. counterpoint: throw out sixxers on the reg for funsies.
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people who voted for trump are still happy with his performance, and others (this is for dems too) will just show up and vote republican rote regardless. what issues do you think will get center/rightist to vote for the democrats over republican candidates in swing states? job numbers under trump have been exceeding expectations most months (not really his doing ofc) and most people have no idea what single payer is (not that we dont really need it)
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Jul 3, 2017 09:17
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FuriousxGeorge posted:I can't fathom any way the dems can lose in 2018. Imagine if they decided not to spend any money on longshot races, and instead focused on winning a narrow majority. Like, that was their goal. Now imagine that they actively sabotage candidates that are too far to the left, and prop up carpet bagging centrists. Now imagine that their primary message is "russia russia russia, Trump is personally a bad man" and also that is their only message.
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Jul 3, 2017 09:27
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FuriousxGeorge posted:I can't fathom any way the dems can lose in 2018. But this has never stopped them from losing before. Boy can you believe that Russia stole another election for Trump?
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Relin posted:people who voted for trump are still happy with his performance, and others (this is for dems too) will just show up and vote republican rote regardless. what issues do you think will get center/rightist to vote for the democrats over republican candidates in swing states? job numbers under trump have been exceeding expectations most months (not really his doing ofc) and most people have no idea what single payer is (not that we dont really need it) at this point its not about convincing the other side, its about motivating your base to vote and demotivating the other. 16 showed this clearly, people will vote for their party even if they run a joke moron candidate, such as hillary clinton
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consumed by normies posted:at this point its not about convincing the other side, its about motivating your base to vote and demotivating the other. 16 showed this clearly, people will vote for their party even if they run a joke moron candidate, such as hillary clinton The centrist/Clintonite vs progressive/Sanderista schism continuing to be a bleeding ulcer in the Democratic party is going to be great at demotivating the base!
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gradenko_2000 posted:The centrist/Clintonite vs progressive/Sanderista schism continuing to be a bleeding ulcer in the Democratic party is going to be great at demotivating the base! yeah just like corbyn demotivated all those very numerous and real blairites
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consumed by normies posted:yeah just like corbyn demotivated all those very numerous and real blairites actually the argument is that corbyn sucks more than any centrist, but may is so terrible she's somehow making him look good. so we still need centrists for when a non-terrible tory shows up (also, a centrist would've beaten may)
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Condiv posted:actually the argument is that corbyn sucks more than any centrist, but may is so terrible she's somehow making him look good. so we still need centrists for when a non-terrible tory shows up (also, a centrist would've beaten may) yeah and its a very stupid argument
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consumed by normies posted:yeah and its a very stupid argument 
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Guy Goodbody posted:Imagine if they decided not to spend any money on longshot races, and instead focused on winning a narrow majority. Like, that was their goal. Now imagine that they actively sabotage candidates that are too far to the left, and prop up carpet bagging centrists. Now imagine that their primary message is "russia russia russia, Trump is personally a bad man" and also that is their only message. They still shouldn't lose.
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https://twitter.com/kid_mao/status/881688835033366528 the democrats version of this would be hillary sunning herself next to christie with "but she persisted vote #democrat" laid over the image
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Jul 3, 2017 10:25
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FuriousxGeorge posted:They still shouldn't lose. yet they will
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I'm honestly wondering what exactly the reaction is going to be post-dem midterm loss. How is it going to be contextualized?
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rudatron posted:I'm honestly wondering what exactly the reaction is going to be post-dem midterm loss. How is it going to be contextualized? a smashing victory because they only lost the two dozen targeted districts by a few points instead of the usual 20%+
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The standard reaction post-loss has always been to move further right, to try and capture the center, which the GOP has responded to by going further right. But they can't really do that anymore, because they've transparently invested so much in this Trump-is-a-bad-guy stuff, that you can't backtrack that. Simultaneously, moving left is impossible, because they're ideologically not on the left, at all. So what are they going to do? They can't triangulate here, not anymore. My hunch is that they'll be so embarrassed by losing, that they'll project their failure elsewhere -- in particular, by hitting the left. All that energy they're focusing on attacking Trump now, by these liberal centrists types, is going to 100% redirect onto the 'Sanders insurgency' or whatever -- because that's the easier target. It's like a psychological defense mechanism, like when abusive victims take out their anger of being abused, on everyone but the source of their abuse via transference.
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Condiv posted:https://twitter.com/shannonrwatts/status/881537465588228096 imagine if the ebola outbreak happened under trump rather than obama and then laugh,
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why the gently caress are they just calling it plague also: owns
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like im no obamatar but that kind of stuff he could handle pretty drat well, whereas trump would have either ignored it or nuked half of west africa
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Serf posted:why the gently caress are they just calling it plague cause it can take different forms! bubonic plague, septicemic plague, and pneumonic plague. the last 2 have only recently become survivable (at the cost of ur feets): quote:In 2002, a married couple from New Mexico contracted plague at home and developed symptoms while they were on vacation in New York. One of the patients, John Tull, developed septicemic plague.
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Serf posted:why the gently caress are they just calling it plague Because it's actually a metaphor for fascism, which is starting to appear since Trump's election
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rudatron posted:The standard reaction post-loss has always been to move further right, to try and capture the center, which the GOP has responded to by going further right. But they can't really do that anymore, because they've transparently invested so much in this Trump-is-a-bad-guy stuff, that you can't backtrack that. Simultaneously, moving left is impossible, because they're ideologically not on the left, at all. They'll do both lol
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Condiv posted:https://twitter.com/shannonrwatts/status/881537465588228096 the cdc is the long arm of the administrative state /bannon cholera for all, smash the state
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Condiv posted:https://twitter.com/kid_mao/status/881688835033366528 It's sexism for pointing out that Hillary was at out a beach that the proles couldn't visit
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see this is why you buy a beach house: you get to have your own beach and don't even need to poo poo down the government to use it
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Vox Nihili posted:Dems gonna gain all of 15 house seats in 2018 and celebrate bigly. 15 bad dems are going to be primaried by progressives and the suck zone will start circle jerking all over themselves. Then they are all going to lose tto republicans, except in California where 1 or 2 might win from their stupid top 2 primary system, but only because they were running against a worse dem. Joementum posted:see this is why you buy a beach house: you get to have your own beach and don't even need to poo poo down the government to use it This is an appropriate typo The Nastier Nate has issued a correction as of 13:14 on Jul 3, 2017 |
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that house looks like a nice place for bernie to enjoy time with his family and grandkids and i hope he enjoys it 
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https://twitter.com/garbagekate/status/881635509063229441 Noted leftist Louise Mensch
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imo it's cool that Democrats are every bit as reactionary and moronic as the conservatives they've been looking down on for decades
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the lesson that dems will choose to learn from their 2018 blowout loss will be that the only way to win is to run a billionaire so several hundred superdelegates will immediately endorse zuckerfuck for 2020 president and beginning around april of 2019 there will be a nonstop chorus saying that he has such a huge lead that everyone else has to drop out for the sake of party unity (and there will be many takes saying that no, this is not the party establishment putting their thumb on the scale in the primary)
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:imo it's cool that Democrats are every bit as reactionary and moronic as the conservatives they've been looking down on for decades Remember how they smugly laughed on how the GOP learned nothing from their presidental defeats? Now they lost the White House and 900 total down ticket races, very sad performance.
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https://twitter.com/NuclearTakes/status/881705113055842304 hillary would agree
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fits my needs posted:https://twitter.com/NuclearTakes/status/881705113055842304 The prisoners should feel lucky they were allowed to work as slaves at Dread Abuela's plantation.
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