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NoneMoreNegative
Jul 20, 2000
GOTH FASCISTIC
PAIN
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shit wizard dad

Speaking of the weird/poo poo end of FPS nostalgia, did anyone play even the demo for In Pursuit Of Greed..? One of those 'lost to the ages' titles, probably with good reason.

http://www.mobygames.com/game/in-pursuit-of-greed

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Rupert Buttermilk
Apr 15, 2007

🚣RowboatMan: ❄️Freezing time🕰️ is an old P.I. 🥧trick...

catlord posted:

(Corridor 7 was great though).

I would like to welcome you to what must be Bizarro Earth, in your eyes. I hope our customs here aren't too strange for you. We have many good FPS titles available, but I regret to inform you that, in this universe, what you've stated isn't true! Please, stay a while and have some chips.

Copper Vein
Mar 14, 2007

...and we liked it that way.

NoneMoreNegative posted:

Speaking of the weird/poo poo end of FPS nostalgia, did anyone play even the demo for In Pursuit Of Greed..? One of those 'lost to the ages' titles, probably with good reason.

http://www.mobygames.com/game/in-pursuit-of-greed

Yep. I played it off of a PC Gamer CD, before Quake was out. I thought it was slow and not fun.

Published by Softdisk, hmmm.

The Kins
Oct 2, 2004

NoneMoreNegative posted:

Speaking of the weird/poo poo end of FPS nostalgia, did anyone play even the demo for In Pursuit Of Greed..? One of those 'lost to the ages' titles, probably with good reason.

http://www.mobygames.com/game/in-pursuit-of-greed
The author graciously made it available for free download, complete with source code.

quote:

Greed was written in C and Assembly and based on the Raven Engine (also used in Shadowcaster, and similar to Rise of the Triad's engine) by Id. This engine was roughly between Wolfenstein and Doom tech-wise. I added many additional features such as transparency, sky box, fixed bugs with sloping floors and ceilings, etc. I also wrote tools for level editing. The graphics were pre-rendered from 3D Studio Max.

The player's goal is to collect various artifacts to reach a required level of value. There are secondary artifacts as well but the primary is required to complete a level.

...

Music for In Pursuit of Greed was also written by Andrew Sega. We own all rights to the game and the music. Some critics say the music was better than the game. Unfortunately, I tend to agree. =P

Shadowcaster is in itself an interesting thing, if not necessarily an FPS.

Max Wilco
Jan 23, 2012

I'm just trying to go through life without looking stupid.

It's not working out too well...
It isn't out yet, but Mad Sector looks like it's trying to ape the style of the terrible old Wolf3D clones.

Instruction Manuel
May 15, 2007

Yes, it is what it looks like!

NoneMoreNegative posted:

Speaking of the weird/poo poo end of FPS nostalgia, did anyone play even the demo for In Pursuit Of Greed..? One of those 'lost to the ages' titles, probably with good reason.

http://www.mobygames.com/game/in-pursuit-of-greed

Copper Vein posted:

Yep. I played it off of a PC Gamer CD, before Quake was out. I thought it was slow and not fun.

Published by Softdisk, hmmm.

I also played the demo on a PC Gamer disc! I remember wanting to get it for some reason or other.

NoneMoreNegative
Jul 20, 2000
GOTH FASCISTIC
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shit wizard dad

Max Wilco posted:

It isn't out yet, but Mad Sector looks like it's trying to ape the style of the terrible old Wolf3D clones.

They should make this 3rd person and then it could be a sequel to Virtuoso

Man, forget about Greed, there's something terrible :o:

http://www.mobygames.com/game/virtuoso

Lol at the stout longhair hero.

Heavy Metal
Sep 1, 2014

America's $1 Funnyman

^ watching some gameplay of that on youtube, I think Virtuoso is the coolest player character I've ever seen! That guy is balls to the wall.

dishwasherlove
Nov 26, 2007

The ultimate fusion of man and machine.

Hello are we still posting about FPS games that died in the over saturated market of the early 00's?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Storm_(video_game)

Sir Lemming
Jan 27, 2009

It's a piece of JUNK!
I'm a big Half-Life apologist, but I'll happily concede that the gun feel isn't great. Fortunately there's a lot else to like. There's a lot of compelling gameplay in them that doesn't involve shooting.

david_a
Apr 24, 2010




Megamarm

NoneMoreNegative posted:

Speaking of the weird/poo poo end of FPS nostalgia, did anyone play even the demo for In Pursuit Of Greed..? One of those 'lost to the ages' titles, probably with good reason.

http://www.mobygames.com/game/in-pursuit-of-greed
I remember trying to play the demo (probably from the PC Gamer disc!) but I remember it ran like absolute garbage on a machine that handled Doom OK.


dishwasherlove posted:

Hello are we still posting about FPS games that died in the over saturated market of the early 00's?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Storm_(video_game)
"Official promo image" LOL

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Samuel Clemens
Oct 4, 2013

I think we should call the Avengers.

Sir Lemming posted:

I'm a big Half-Life apologist, but I'll happily concede that the gun feel isn't great.

It depends a lot on the weapon type, I think. The standard guns in Half-Life aren't great, but the more exotic ones are pretty fun. Similarly, HL2's pistol and SMG are trash, but I like the shotgun and pulse rifle.

stuffed crust punk
Oct 8, 2004

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

Max Wilco posted:

It isn't out yet, but Mad Sector looks like it's trying to ape the style of the terrible old Wolf3D clones.

lmao is the protagonist crosseyed? that pistol is way to the left

loga mira
Feb 16, 2011

WON'T SOMEONE PLEASE THINK OF THE NAZIS?
HL2 SMG wasn't bad, it's just a weak starter gun, they even give you infinite ammo for it on the back of the car. A gun's look and feel has to reflect its place in the arsenal after all. The sound is good, the grenade launcher is fun. Gravity gun still somehow feels novel, when you pick up a bed and the mattress slides off it, still not something you see in a lot of games. The worst kind of arsenal you can have in a non-military FPS is all realistic guns with multiple assault rifles and heavy machineguns, and HL2 is still quite far from that, not as diverse as HL, but still fun.

Everyone also forgets the antlion pods.

I think I've posted already that the fairly understated visually, but for the time well realized, guns make the game feel more mature. First because even the sci fi weapons look realistic, and second because it doesn't feel like the team was obsessed with guns. They're not ultra-detailed clumps of meaningless grey techno crap with blinking lights, or shiny gun porny overly elaborately animated eye sores that take up half the screen.

catlord
Mar 22, 2009

What's on your mind, Axa?

Rupert Buttermilk posted:

I would like to welcome you to what must be Bizarro Earth, in your eyes. I hope our customs here aren't too strange for you. We have many good FPS titles available, but I regret to inform you that, in this universe, what you've stated isn't true! Please, stay a while and have some chips.

Nah, it's just nostalgia speaking. I wasn't allowed to play shooters for a very long time so I would install demos on my poo poo computer and Corridor 7 was one of them. I have a soft spot for that poo poo game (does anyone have that ad for it talking poo poo about Doom?).

Can't wait for ECCorridor7.

Edit: found it myself:

Convex posted:





Noted Doom-beater, Corridor 7 :eng99:

catlord fucked around with this message at 17:04 on Jul 3, 2017

Assepoester
Jul 18, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
Melman v2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uwx6O5b3JBE

Brasseye
Feb 13, 2009

Restrained Crown Posse posted:

Just wanted to say Thank You Thread for pointing me in the direction of Immortal Redneck. Hadn't even heard of it until reading about it here and can tell the £10 gamble has paid off from just my first round.

Same here, great game. A bit too much backtracking sometimes and some of the bad scrolls end your run completely, but unlike Ziggurat and a few others I tried the gameplay is really fun. If people weren't recommending it in here I wouldve definitely assumed it was another bad roguelikelike FPS.

Johnny Joestar
Oct 21, 2010

Don't shoot him?

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Lemon-Lime posted:

The default shotgun is real wimpy and the dynamite takes too low to throw, though.

The shotgun just needs to be replaced with the Doom shotty.

eh, i still think as a whole the starter loadout is pretty useful when combined with the active/passive skills they come with. i have a lot of fun with strafing around things and lobbing dynamite at it

Social Animal
Nov 1, 2005


I'm going to be honest I'm shocked a modding scene even exists for doom 3. It just didn't seem like the type of game to draw that crowd.

Also ShadowCaster. I remember playing the demo (PC Gamer I think?) and thinking man this is awesome. I wouldn't dare load that game up now.

Anyone remember the build engine game Legend of the Seven Paladins? I remember the intro level where you pick your character blowing my mind as a kid. I don't think it was officially released outside of Taiwan though.

http://www.jonof.id.au/build.games/l7p

This is a cool site that seems to cover the game pretty well.

catlord
Mar 22, 2009

What's on your mind, Axa?
I remember my dad had Shadowcaster and thinking it was super cool. It was developed by Raven but published by Origin/EA, I imagine this is why it hasn't shown up on GOG or something yet.

The Kins
Oct 2, 2004

Social Animal posted:

Anyone remember the build engine game Legend of the Seven Paladins? I remember the intro level where you pick your character blowing my mind as a kid. I don't think it was officially released outside of Taiwan though.
It wasn't. I don't think they ended up actually paying for the BUILD engine license, either.

Lazy Game Reviews picked up a boxed copy recently... somehow. I suspect he'll do a deep dive at some point.

Convex
Aug 19, 2010
Was that the game with the ridiculous headbobbing? If so it may be the single most nauseating FPS since Operation Bodycount

NoneMoreNegative
Jul 20, 2000
GOTH FASCISTIC
PAIN
MASTER




shit wizard dad

Heavy Metal posted:

^ watching some gameplay of that on youtube, I think Virtuoso is the coolest player character I've ever seen! That guy is balls to the wall.

Doomguy? Feh. Duke Nukem? Move Over, honey!



Ch-Chk BOOM

Assepoester
Jul 18, 2004
Probation
Can't post for 10 years!
Melman v2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45pCf6QupH8

Instruction Manuel
May 15, 2007

Yes, it is what it looks like!

Social Animal posted:

I'm going to be honest I'm shocked a modding scene even exists for doom 3. It just didn't seem like the type of game to draw that crowd.

Also ShadowCaster. I remember playing the demo (PC Gamer I think?) and thinking man this is awesome. I wouldn't dare load that game up now.

Anyone remember the build engine game Legend of the Seven Paladins? I remember the intro level where you pick your character blowing my mind as a kid. I don't think it was officially released outside of Taiwan though.

http://www.jonof.id.au/build.games/l7p

This is a cool site that seems to cover the game pretty well.

I remember having a decent time with DungeonDoom which turned Doom 3 into a roguelike. Can you believe it!?

Rupert Buttermilk
Apr 15, 2007

🚣RowboatMan: ❄️Freezing time🕰️ is an old P.I. 🥧trick...

I remember having such a hard-on for Shadowgate that I was convinced that Shadowcaster was some sort of sequel or spin-off.

GUI
Nov 5, 2005

Doom 3 modding was extremely popular back in the day and had a healthy community until 2007 or so. The core gameplay is pretty good when mappers use it for more than spawning 1 Imp in a narrow corridor like id did.

skasion
Feb 13, 2012

Why don't you perform zazen, facing a wall?
I remember somebody made a Doom 3 mod that was like a reimagining of the first chapter of Pathways into Darkness. Never went anywhere I assume.

Negostrike
Aug 15, 2015


First Doom 3 mod I played was a house map with part of some Static X song repeating over and over.

Yodzilla
Apr 29, 2005

Now who looks even dumber?

Beef Witch
The map editor for Doom 3 was super cool and it was easy to make some pretty elaborate and nice looking levels.

dishwasherlove
Nov 26, 2007

The ultimate fusion of man and machine.

The Doom 3 Thief TC The Dark Project is pretty amazing.

Max Wilco
Jan 23, 2012

I'm just trying to go through life without looking stupid.

It's not working out too well...

dishwasherlove posted:

The Doom 3 Thief TC The Dark Project is pretty amazing.

The cool thing about it is that it actually became a standalone thing, so you don't need Doom 3 to run it anymore. I haven't tried it myself, but Bobbin Threadbare showcased a bunch of levels during one of his Thief LPs.

Cream-of-Plenty
Apr 21, 2010

"The world is a hellish place, and bad writing is destroying the quality of our suffering."

skasion posted:

I remember somebody made a Doom 3 mod that was like a reimagining of the first chapter of Pathways into Darkness. Never went anywhere I assume.

For some reason I conflated "Pathways into Darkness" with "Realms of the Haunting" and was mildly confused but weirdly intrigued.

Max Wilco
Jan 23, 2012

I'm just trying to go through life without looking stupid.

It's not working out too well...

Cream-of-Plenty posted:

For some reason I conflated "Pathways into Darkness" with "Realms of the Haunting" and was mildly confused but weirdly intrigued.

There was a project to recreate Realms of the Haunting in Clive Barker's Undying, but it looks like it was abandoned back in 2001.

dishwasherlove
Nov 26, 2007

The ultimate fusion of man and machine.


I just tried it out for the first time in 5 years. They are building an official campaign. There is a Steven Russel alike voice actor and the voice over adds what I felt was missing from the game feel truly Thief.

Lemon-Lime
Aug 6, 2009
The Dark Mod is fantastic and the Thief 4 we never got.

I hadn't heard about them building an official campaign but that's great news - the main issue with TDM is having to find individual missions and the quality level varying so much from one to the other.

Heavy Metal
Sep 1, 2014

America's $1 Funnyman

Thief 4 was a pretty cool and underrated game, to me had more interesting level design and whatnot than a lot of other games. I get fans would want a game more like the originals, just to me Thief (2014) was a bit of a gem that did it's own thing, one of the best games that year. One of the best modern FPS adventures of it's kind, I'd put it up with Bioshock Infinite. Also a very well done stealth game, and MGS is my favorite series. Call me crazy. Also a lot better than Deus Ex MD which the team made next, love HR though.

Got Immortal Redneck by the way, cool stuff! Also Lawbreakers is not bad, kind of fun random mayhem. Could still use some work in ways though.

Heavy Metal fucked around with this message at 16:00 on Jul 4, 2017

Levitate
Sep 30, 2005

randy newman voice

YOU'VE GOT A LAFRENIÈRE IN ME
I remember when Doom 3 modding was obsessed with proving the engine could do more than dark corridors because conventional knowledge was that "it's so terrible it can't do brightly lit areas or sunlight that's why Doom 3 is so dark"

Heavy Metal
Sep 1, 2014

America's $1 Funnyman

I loved that Quake 3 mod Urban Terror, random note. Sort of like the Action mod series (AQ2, AHL) type of thing for Quake 3.

(edit: looks like a good amount of people are still playing that, righteous)

Heavy Metal fucked around with this message at 19:11 on Jul 4, 2017

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Social Animal
Nov 1, 2005

I remember not liking it back in the day but I don't know why. Watched a recent video of it on YouTube and it doesn't look like it's aged well. I don't think I enjoyed any of the total conversion style mods on Q3 now that I think about it.

Reminds me of the Firearms mod for HL1 for some reason. Anyone play that game? It had some cool stuff for the time like artillery and parachuting.

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