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Can I buy a brace of 10 plasma pistols and fire them all? Surely they've hosed up the rules with at least one model that will allow for it.
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I mean, it covers the basic weapon options well without cluttering up the rules. Seraphim can use pistols akimbo. Marines can have a bolter and pistol can't fire both, and models with a bunch of weapons like vehicles or crisis suits can fire them all without an exception
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Jul 3, 2017 05:43
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JBP posted:Can I buy a brace of 10 plasma pistols and fire them all? Surely they've hosed up the rules with at least one model that will allow for it. There are, at present, no loopholes for that outside of Forge World; Forge World has the Elysian Drop Troops specific Order that makes things hilarious in a bad way for reasons that were clearly not evident to the person who wrote them..
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Jul 3, 2017 05:48
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Strobe posted:There are, at present, no loopholes for that outside of Forge World; Forge World has the Elysian Drop Troops specific Order that makes things hilarious in a bad way for reasons that were clearly not evident to the person who wrote them.. Yeah I'm aware of this one 
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Jul 3, 2017 06:08
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JBP posted:Yeah I'm aware of this one New combi-weapons lookin tight.
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Jul 3, 2017 06:11
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panascope posted:If you can find it, grab some of the Vallejo black lava paint, which is the best basing material on the market. Doing that, then Dawnstone > Blue Wash > drybrush Ushabti Bone makes some great bases if you like an urban theme. Seconding this. 
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Felime posted:I mean, it covers the basic weapon options well without cluttering up the rules. Seraphim can use pistols akimbo. Marines can have a bolter and pistol can't fire both, and models with a bunch of weapons like vehicles or crisis suits can fire them all without an exception Vanguard Vets too, wanna try running a squad where each one has a plasma pistol and a grab pistol.
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Jul 3, 2017 06:19
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adamantium|wang posted:Seconding this. These are loving awesome.
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chutche2 posted:Rewriting rules is what they've always used FAQs for. Perhaps not, but personally I'm relieved that this change came in the same release that made Tyrant Guard a unit size of 3-6 for matched play. Putting more than 1 or 2 in a smaller list can be tough. Who the hell needs ~250pts of bodyguards anyway?
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After many games and much 'counts as' I'm really quite happy with stormboyz. They are so drat fast, cheap and effective I'm probably going to stick 2 squads in every list from now on. They are a bit squishy but hey Orks! I know I shouldn't give GW money, but I've got to get a proppa green tide going.
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Giving GW money is cool and good now homie.
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Let's not go too far. I need to be wooed a little more before I let my guard down. Prices are still insane, for example.
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Stormboys are a neat kit, but obscenely expensive, even by GW standards. $25 for 5 models that you field in units of 30 is too rich for my blood.
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Jul 3, 2017 10:42
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It's ok to give GW money when the product is reasonably priced, like Dark Imperium. Do not give GW money when it's unreasonable, like a a $60 box for two small monopose characters.
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Floppychop posted:Stormboys are a neat kit, but obscenely expensive, even by GW standards. $25 for 5 models that you field in units of 30 is too rich for my blood. Vespids are not fielded in as large a squad but cost like, 45 bucks for 5. And a full squad is 12. It is really dang hard to find them at anything less than retail price on eBay unless you find a guy selling off his whole old army. Not complaining about your post, just saying I understand 
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evilmiera posted:Vespids are not fielded in as large a squad but cost like, 45 bucks for 5. And a full squad is 12. It is really dang hard to find them at anything less than retail price on eBay unless you find a guy selling off his whole old army. Not complaining about your post, just saying I understand Stuff being sold in proportions which don't correspond to their squad size is really loving annoying. Worse in Old Fantasy where units from 6th ed were sold in multiples of 4 and stuff from 7th ed+ was sold in multiples of 5, but there's still a few things in 40k like it.
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Floppychop posted:Stormboys are a neat kit, but obscenely expensive, even by GW standards. $25 for 5 models that you field in units of 30 is too rich for my blood. You're gonna love New GW's pricing on the new Primaris characters, friend.
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Oh god no. 70 bucks for those two is a hard pass. 
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panascope posted:If you can find it, grab some of the Vallejo black lava paint, which is the best basing material on the market. Doing that, then Dawnstone > Blue Wash > drybrush Ushabti Bone makes some great bases if you like an urban theme. Is is like the thick gritty paste stuff? I have the Brown Earth version and it definitely gives a nice texture.
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Lord_Hambrose posted:Is is like the thick gritty paste stuff? I have the Brown Earth version and it definitely gives a nice texture. It's larger grit than the brown earth but basically the same idea.
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I saved $1 buying a slightly older box of Warriors; they don't all come with Boneswords or Rending Claws. I saved -$19 buying parts from bits sellers.
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One of the people at my club has made a Kickstarter that could be useful for 8E - Woundwang* Simple wound tracking for characters/monsters/vehicles.  * I cringed when he called it that
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Zaphod42 posted:Yeah there's definitely other things. But the "use gloves" worries me a bit. I'd rather just use simple green and leave it in the dunk tank for a few days. Don't pass it up because you're worried about wearing gloves.
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glitchkrieg posted:One of the people at my club has made a Kickstarter that could be useful for 8E - Woundwang* Let's rotate the board! ( https://youtu.be/qjOZtWZ56lc )
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General Olloth posted:Let's rotate the board!  It's time for Wangernumb!
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glitchkrieg posted:One of the people at my club has made a Kickstarter that could be useful for 8E - Woundwang* lol if I'm gonna watch over 3 minutes of this wankers face
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Proletariat Beowulf posted:I saved $1 buying a slightly older box of Warriors; they don't all come with Boneswords or Rending Claws. Why didn't you make them into perfect Tyranid Trainees for SWA?
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"It's totally ironic" I say, as I pull half a dozen long pink phalluses out of my toy case.
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So my friend that runs all the dreadnoughts had them all in one place the other day. Looks like he has 1 relic contemptor, 8 other contemptors (most plastic, some were contemptor mortis) 6 venerables, 2 standard,, 2 ironclads, and a leviathan. This is an actual 2000 point list Vanguard detachment: Techmarine with servo arm and power axe 5x contemptors, 4 with kheres 1 with multimelta Vanguard detachment Techmarine with servo arm and power sword 2 venerables with twin lascannon and missile launcher Venerable with twin lascannon and heavy flamer DCCW 2x Venerable with assault cannon + heavy flamer DCCW Dreadnought with twin heavy flamer + heavy flamer DCCW We call his collection the Space Marine Retirement Home.
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chutche2 posted:This is an actual 2000 point list
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Floppychop posted:Stormboys are a neat kit, but obscenely expensive, even by GW standards. $25 for 5 models that you field in units of 30 is too rich for my blood. Does the kit come with the necessary components to make a Stormboy Nob in the kit, or just a bunch of variations on regular Stormboyz?
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chutche2 posted:So my friend that runs all the dreadnoughts had them all in one place the other day. Looks like he has 1 relic contemptor, 8 other contemptors (most plastic, some were contemptor mortis) 6 venerables, 2 standard,, 2 ironclads, and a leviathan. This is very cool and good.
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Still hoping to run a list with old one eye and 18 Carnifexes.
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I'm 3 fexes short of being able to run this: +++ New Roster (Warhammer 40,000 8th Edition) [106 PL, 2000pts] +++ ++ Spearhead Detachment +1CP (Tyranids) [106 PL, 2000pts] ++ + HQ + Old One Eye [7 PL, 140pts] + Heavy Support + Carnifexes [18 PL, 324pts] . Carnifex: 2x Monstrous Scything Talons, Adrenal Glands, Bio-plasma, Thresher Scythe . Carnifex: 2x Monstrous Scything Talons, Adrenal Glands, Bio-plasma, Thresher Scythe . Carnifex: 2x Monstrous Scything Talons, Adrenal Glands, Bio-plasma, Thresher Scythe Carnifexes [18 PL, 324pts] . Carnifex: 2x Monstrous Scything Talons, Adrenal Glands, Bio-plasma, Thresher Scythe . Carnifex: 2x Monstrous Scything Talons, Adrenal Glands, Bio-plasma, Thresher Scythe . Carnifex: 2x Monstrous Scything Talons, Adrenal Glands, Bio-plasma, Thresher Scythe Carnifexes [18 PL, 324pts] . Carnifex: 2x Monstrous Scything Talons, Adrenal Glands, Bio-plasma, Thresher Scythe . Carnifex: 2x Monstrous Scything Talons, Adrenal Glands, Bio-plasma, Thresher Scythe . Carnifex: 2x Monstrous Scything Talons, Adrenal Glands, Bio-plasma, Thresher Scythe Carnifexes [18 PL, 324pts] . Carnifex: 2x Monstrous Scything Talons, Adrenal Glands, Bio-plasma, Thresher Scythe . Carnifex: 2x Monstrous Scything Talons, Adrenal Glands, Bio-plasma, Thresher Scythe . Carnifex: 2x Monstrous Scything Talons, Adrenal Glands, Bio-plasma, Thresher Scythe Carnifexes [12 PL, 208pts] . Carnifex: 2x 2x Deathspitter with Slimer Maggots, Thresher Scythe . Carnifex: 2x Monstrous Scything Talons, Adrenal Glands, Bone Mace Stone Crusher Carnifex Brood [15 PL, 356pts] . Stone Crusher Carnifex: Bio-plasma, Thresher Scythe, Wrecker Claw & Bio-flail . Stone Crusher Carnifex: Bio-plasma, Thresher Scythe, Wrecker Claw & Bio-flail . Stone Crusher Carnifex: 2x Wrecker Claws, Bio-plasma, Thresher Scythe
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glitchkrieg posted:One of the people at my club has made a Kickstarter that could be useful for 8E - Woundwang* I'd be more inclined to join in the fun it didn't have WANG written on it, or look like a wang. A simple bar would have been... a little more salable. In model painting news: Doing my custodes. Purple wash over gold looks soooooo good and rich. Mine is VMA Gold with a wash of Golden High Flow Dioxazine Purple Transparent (Pretty much just the same as a GW shade paint, though I watered it down some.   and a bonus primaris Marines Errant test model to get in on the quartered marine fun (Halved technically). He needs a bit of tidying up along the backpack, but I'm putting that off until I have the white color out again. 
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adamantium|wang posted:Plus single models are stupidly easy to hide in a corner somewhere they will never see action. They won't be expected to do anything beyond allowing an existing army to get access to more command points. My regular opponent took ten minutes to spend 49 points to change his Battalion to a Brigade and all of those were saved by dropping useless guys in other units. Why would you even agree to play against that army? I know people like to stick to 'it's the rules' for any weird abstractions or slightly off things in the game rules. It ensures consistency. But pre-game, during army selection, it seems like your friend is rolling with a very obtuse interpretation to gain an advantage. The rule is obviously there to accommodate people who just don't have enough models. Not so you can take 1 of your 500 gaunts and claim you're an under strength unit to expand your command point pool. Why not just call him on his bullshit?
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glitchkrieg posted:One of the people at my club has made a Kickstarter that could be useful for 8E - Woundwang* I hate myself for bringing this up but... uh, does it really need to be that big?
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Genghis Cohen posted:Why would you even agree to play against that army? Why not just call him on his bullshit? Because we all play in a competitive tournament environment and after 25 years we are sick and tired of GW games being the only games where having to pick and choose which of the poorly written basic loving game rules we're going to ignore is a touted feature and just play the game as it stands, warts and all. E: and it's not an obtuse interpretation, it's a black and white revision of the rules straight from the horse's mouth. adamantium|wang fucked around with this message at 18:42 on Jul 3, 2017 |
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My friends are talking about doing 150 PL games. This is the worst idea. At 150 I could do a brigade detachment. Captain, chaplain, company commander, 2x 10 marines, 2x 5 marines, 5 scouts, 10 guardsmen, 5 cataphractii, apothecary, contemptor, 10 guard veterans, 5 assault marines, 2x tarantulas, predator, leman russ, vindicator, stormraven, 2 razorbacks, and a chimera. This should probably be on an 8x4 table.
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adamantium|wang posted:E: and it's not an obtuse interpretation, it's a black and white revision of the rules straight from the horse's mouth. Still a dumb rule, though.
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