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Cythereal posted:Dude has victorious martyr written all over him and it seems very much in line with how Butcher's been writing the series. ~~he died doing the right thing~~
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biracial bear for uncut posted:That's funny. It's exactly how I feel about the Iron Druid books.
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jivjov posted:And he's "about 10 chapters in" to Peace Talks, due to his living situation having him down to "around 5%" of his normal output speed. I sympathize with the guy, really, but ha, we're never getting this book. I was hoping he was over half way through, or somewhere close to editing. He's basically no where. Unless this means 10 chapters into editing, but I doubt it.
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Jul 3, 2017 13:38
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anilEhilated posted:You say that but then he brings in the other POV characters... "Old Druid" was more entertaining than Atticus. I'll give you Mary Sue White Girl though.
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Jul 3, 2017 13:48
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thrawn527 posted:I sympathize with the guy, really, but ha, we're never getting this book. I was hoping he was over half way through, or somewhere close to editing. He's basically no where. Why would you say that? He needs to write to live after all.
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Jul 3, 2017 14:00
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Don't most Dresden books have 30 chapters or more? If he is only 10 chapters in after 3+ years then it might not be until 2023 that we get the book.
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Rygar201 posted:Why would you say that? He needs to write to live after all. I was exaggerating, we'll likely get it eventually. But as Oroborus said, at this rate it'll be a long time.
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thrawn527 posted:I was exaggerating, we'll likely get it eventually. But as Oroborus said, at this rate it'll be a long time. Hah, my bad. I've seen plenty of people get all bent out of shape about authors' output before, so I wouldn't have been surprised at all if you had been serious.
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What's wrong with his living situation? I remember him getting divorced but then he remarried, is it that?
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Avalerion posted:What's wrong with his living situation? I remember him getting divorced but then he remarried, is it that? His house is/was being rebuilt/built/torndown/condemned/on-fire or something of that radical nature. Needless to say it's disruptive. Anias fucked around with this message at 14:53 on Jul 3, 2017 |
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Jul 3, 2017 14:50
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Avalerion posted:What's wrong with his living situation? I remember him getting divorced but then he remarried, is it that? It's because he isn't doing enough drugs. All the really prolific writers you might think of were addicts of one kind or another.
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Jul 3, 2017 14:58
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Anias posted:His house is/was being rebuilt/built/torndown/condemned/on-fire or something of that radical nature. Needless to say it's disruptive. New house being built; and his contractors are nearing 18 months behind schedule. So he's been living with his fiancée, but she still lives with her family. So they have a bedroom to themselves and then share the rest of a small home with her family, and 4 cats (2 of which were inspirations for the cats in Aeronaut's Windlass). So he just doesn't have an office space or anything where he can kick everyone else out and sit down and work on writing.
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jivjov posted:New house being built; and his contractors are nearing 18 months behind schedule. So he's been living with his fiancée, but she still lives with her family. So they have a bedroom to themselves and then share the rest of a small home with her family, and 4 cats (2 of which were inspirations for the cats in Aeronaut's Windlass). I kinda feel this only goes so far as an excuse. He could find a place to write if he really wanted to. For example, one can rent co-working office space for a pittance. If he wants to take some time off? That's fine. If he wants to stop writing entirely, well, I can't stop him. As Gaiman would say, he's not my bitch. I'd simply prefer he not pay lip service and make weak excuses.
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biracial bear for uncut posted:It's because he isn't doing enough drugs. Brandon Sanderson doesn't even drink though.
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ConfusedUs posted:I kinda feel this only goes so far as an excuse. He could find a place to write if he really wanted to. For example, one can rent co-working office space for a pittance. Yeah. I know a few professional writers that were successful enough for it to be a job, and they lived in similar circumstances. Some of them just bought a nice pre-built shed, put a desk in it, and used it as an office. Sounds like he's just stressed and isn't really feeling it at the moment. Hope he feels better. biracial bear for uncut posted:It's because he isn't doing enough drugs. Jim's addicted to conventions. We're all doomed.
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Speaking of cons; I'm amused that he took the time to appear at a tiny little anime convention in Kansas City...turns out one of his nieces is on the planning committee for Sausomecon and asked Jim to appear as a favor due to the lack of big name guests. His Q&A panel had maybe 15 people in attendance. About 6 of us stayed for the signing, and after seeing how short the line was, a guy rolled up with a suitcase containing, literally, the entire body of work from Jim and got EVERYTHING autographed.
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fordan posted:Brandon Sanderson doesn't even drink though. Writers whose works are worth reading, then. Anybody that continues a series after the original author dies is a hack.
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Jul 3, 2017 17:48
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biracial bear for uncut posted:Writers whose works are worth reading, then. Anybody that continues a series after the original author dies is a hack. Well this is an opinion.
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biracial bear for uncut posted:Writers whose works are worth reading, then. Anybody that continues a series after the original author dies is a hack. He was asked to do it by his widow/editor. Also, calling someone else a hack in the Dresden thread? We all love our urban fantasy, but it's not exactly high brow Literature.
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fordan posted:Brandon Sanderson doesn't even drink though.
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Decius posted:He was asked to do it by his widow/editor. That really isn't any different from a family member doing it themself (like all the other cases of lovely sequels/prequels of series that ended because the original author died). quote:Also, calling someone else a hack in the Dresden thread? We all love our urban fantasy, but it's not exactly high brow Literature. You might want to keep in mind that my previous post about Butcher was a criticism.
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biracial bear for uncut posted:Writers whose works are worth reading, then. Anybody that continues a series after the original author dies is a hack. lmao
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NerdyMcNerdNerd posted:Sounds like he's just stressed and isn't really feeling it at the moment. Hope he feels better. Yeah, last time I moved I was useless at work the entire time from the stress, and that was just dealing with realtors and the bank, not contractors who are apparently massive fuckups along with it. AND getting divorced and remarried. AND living with my new wife's family. Butcher has to be under some ridiculous strain. I want the new book but I can understand him not getting it done (as opposed to George "poo poo, can't write, football is on" Martin).
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biracial bear for uncut posted:That really isn't any different from a family member doing it themself (like all the other cases of lovely sequels/prequels of series that ended because the original author died). Jordan's wish was for someone to finish it. If that's enough for you to dismiss someone, your loss. quote:You might want to keep in mind that my previous post about Butcher was a criticism. Oh, that makes it alright then?
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Decius posted:Oh, that makes it alright then? You said the Dresden files aren't exactly high brow literature like it had anything at all to do what I posted (in response to someone offering up Sanderson as a prolific author that didn't do drugs--that anyone knows about).
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vulturesrow posted:Not sure I agree with this. It might seem like that from his POV but I can't recall any interactions with Mac that reveal much other than he's a person of importance, with some history. it's all about context. Dresden's talk with Nick in the aquarium seems exactly like Harry thinks it is - a distraction - until after we learn about Nemesis. Then it's an entirely different conversation. Edit: or literally Butters saying he'd start training once he became a Jedi knight two books before he did. Butcher loves little bits like that.
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Pretty much. Jim loves to bury little things in the books that pop up later, and that's why it is fun to theorize about the books. Mac's probably a god from one of the more well-known pantheons, Greek/Roman or Egyptian, maybe Scottish/Irish. I'm leaning towards Norse, based on a few things. My top guesses would be Heimdall, Anubis, or Ma'at.  Maybe Tyr. Tyr liked Loki's dog.
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Yeah, I was leaning towards Merlin for a while with Mac but I'm reasonably sure he's the pissy dude trapped in Demonreach after Skin Game.
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NerdyMcNerdNerd posted:Pretty much. Jim loves to bury little things in the books that pop up later, and that's why it is fun to theorize about the books. Mac's probably a god from one of the more well-known pantheons, Greek/Roman or Egyptian, maybe Scottish/Irish. I'm leaning towards Norse, based on a few things. My top guesses would be Heimdall, Anubis, or Ma'at. I'm guessing Mac is one of the Grigori. He's been referred to as a/the Watcher with a capital before.
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I've had my money on Heimdall for quite some time, myself. So I guess I'm with NerdyMcNerdNerd
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Zore posted:Yeah, I was leaning towards Merlin for a while with Mac but I'm reasonably sure he's the pissy dude trapped in Demonreach after Skin Game. I believe Butcher specifically said that being is not Merlin
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Jim's on record saying Mac is not a god or a scion of one.
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drat. The sequel to The Girl With Ghost Eyes by MH Boroson has a title (The Girl With No Face), a blurb, and a release date. Too bad that release date is in July 2018.
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fordan posted:Brandon Sanderson doesn't even drink though. I believe Mormons tend to be high on the Holy Spirit. 
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As someone who just built a house, if you're not on top of your contractors the entire loving time your house is going to be hosed up. Hell, sometimes it is even when you're down there 2 or 3 times a week making sure they're doing everything. So I can only imagine how building your primary residence (ours was a beach house) while living with your fiancé's family would be super disruptive to your work life. Just for an example of how contractors will screw up. We just built a beach house. It's 4 bedrooms, super simple. Basically just one big box with sectioned off rooms. They did: Wrong size posts holding up the roof (had to cut out and replace) Wrong size posts holding up the stairs on both sides of the house (had to cut out and replace) Told the concrete guy the wrong dimensions (he didn't bring enough concrete, had to come back a week later with more) Told us and the concrete guy we could have a driveway (according to the permits, we could not. Had to tear out the brand new driveway) Installed regular windows instead of high impact windows and told the insurance adjustor that we, the homeowners, would be installing shutters (we are not, that was just a straight lie) Ordered the wrong size cabinets for the entire house (had to wait a week and a half to get the right size) There's a litany of other things that are much smaller than these that I can't even remember anymore because it was such a clusterfuck The inspector came by close to the end and saw the driveway, told us we couldn't have it and it'd have to be removed. Because the inspector didn't sign off, we couldn't get the electricity turned on. Because the electricity wasn't on, we couldn't get appliances delivered. We ended up getting it fixed and having the appliances delivered literally 2 hours before our first renters showed up. So I can only imagine what Jim is going through since it's his actual HOUSE. He's probably just exhausted and kind of down. I'm more willing to put up with him when he's going through this than I am for someone like Rothfuss or GRRM who aren't dealing with poo poo and are just lazy. Daric fucked around with this message at 23:58 on Jul 3, 2017 |
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In grrm/epic-fantasy-author's defense, they write 2-3 or more books worth of dresden by word count at a time. Here's a quick google for example: A Song of Ice And Fire - George R. R. Martin A Game of Thrones: 298k A Clash of kings: 326k A Storm of Swords: 424k A Feast for Crows: 300k A Dance with Dragons: 422k Total: 1M 770k Storm Front: 86,961 words Fool Moon: 102,149 words Grave Peril: 116,932 words Summer Knight: 111,764 words Blood Rites: 121,308 words Death Masks: 107,382 words Dead Beat: 144,555 words Proven Guilty: 154,598 words White Night: 130,223 words Small Favor: 139,798 words Turn Coat: 141,745 words Changes: 149,280 words Ghost story: 162,899 words Cold Days: 175,685 words Skin Game: 151,922 words I think it's reasonable to compare author's within their own genre, but epic fantasy doorstoppers vs urban fantasy isn't a good comparison.
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Anias posted:In grrm/epic-fantasy-author's defense, they write 2-3 or more books worth of dresden by word count at a time. George R.R. Martin had a 4 year lead on Butcher. And you aren't including the 6 Codex Alera books and the Aeronaut's Windlass in that count. And even just Dresden is 1M 998K Zore fucked around with this message at 00:23 on Jul 4, 2017 |
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How does Sanderson stack up?
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I will admit I think it's hilarious that Jordan managed to put out three books in between the publication of Storm of Swords and Feast for Crows . . . despite literally dying.
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Tunicate posted:How does Sanderson stack up? Sanderson is an inhuman wordcount machine.
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