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angel opportunity posted:Splatoon 2 looks pretty cool to me, but I've never played Splatoon. I'm worried that I won't like how it controls and will be annoyed I bought it (missed the test fires). im terrible at shooters not named star wars battlefront 2 (ps2 version) but splatoon had a fairly easy control scheme, the gyro thing was trippy but not so hard to get used too. i played it all of once tho, so grains of salt and all that
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When I'd explain the concept of the WiiU to someone (which was fairly often), the next question was often "oh its a tablet, so you can take it anywhere?" It was a good console but the entire concept of it was slightly confusing, it feels like the Switch is what the WiiU should've been.
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Jul 3, 2017 20:31
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I'm in the boat of hating console/controller-based shooters, but I think Splatoon made good design decisions to overcome the inherent limits of the scheme. Having the main focus be just hosing poo poo down with paint means you contribute without necessarily getting a high KDR, and in general it felt like engagements were more about taking advantage of your territory and being position-oriented instead of accurate snap shooting. A lot of people get all hyperbolic about how amazing the tilt controls were, but again as someone who hates console shooters I really didn't like gyro either and was perfectly content using nothing but the sticks. The way they chose to do everything blends together very well to make something enjoyable.
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Jul 3, 2017 20:33
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The best thing to come out from the Wii U was that Nintendo realized that people wanted a portable gaming tablet that could also be connected to the TV. And now we have the Switch!
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Jul 3, 2017 20:34
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Yeah I don't think it was the gamepad that sunk third-party support on the poorly-selling console with very bad middleware support
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Jul 3, 2017 20:34
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Non-Nintendo fanboy view of the Wii U: "Oh so it's a Wii that can do HD output that has a bunch of ports of games I played on my 360/PS4/PC six months ago but now have a bunch of touchscreen gimmicks forced into the gameplay! gently caress that." ...and they weren't completely wrong, either. I liked my Wii U but when it comes down to it Nintendo reaaaaaaaly kinda screwed the pooch. Thankfully everything surrounding the Switch besides the left joycon issues and the fact that you can't easily buy one has been awesome and I can't wait to see where Nintendo goes from here.
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Jul 3, 2017 20:38
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C-SPAN Caller posted:Even the box art for the drat thing has the game pad hiding the console behind it. I guess it is dumb marketing, since we know how it turned out, but who the hell is buying a new console because of how the console looks? The controllers and games seem much, much more important. The naming was the main issue that made people not know what the heck it was, along with not enough promotion
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Jul 3, 2017 20:40
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Coolspaz posted:I have a feeling I'm the only one who is excited for Splatoon 2 After the test fire and discovering how incredible split Joy-cons were, I'm really looking forward to it. I couldn't even get into Splatoon 1, but that was only due to the control options -- I loved everything else about the game. angel opportunity posted:Splatoon 2 looks pretty cool to me, but I've never played Splatoon. I'm worried that I won't like how it controls and will be annoyed I bought it (missed the test fires). This was a critical problem with Splatoon 1 IMO, but they rectified it with the Switch. Now, you aren't tethered to a giant Wii U tablet if you want to use gyro controls. Now, you can use either the Pro controller or Joy-cons to use both analog aiming and gyro for fine tuning (or just one or the other.) It feels extra awesome with the split Joy-cons, gyro aiming with the right hand exclusively, instead of having to contort both hands anchored to a controller. enojy fucked around with this message at 20:45 on Jul 3, 2017 |
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The Bloop posted:I guess it is dumb marketing, since we know how it turned out, but who the hell is buying a new console because of how the console looks? You'd be surprised.
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Jul 3, 2017 20:42
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The Bloop posted:I guess it is dumb marketing, since we know how it turned out, but who the hell is buying a new console because of how the console looks? The controller: a giant slab with a lovely resistive touchscreen and a three hour battery life The games: warmed over ports I waited a year to buy my Wii U until something I wanted came out for it (Wind Waker remake).
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Jul 3, 2017 20:43
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The Bloop posted:I guess it is dumb marketing, since we know how it turned out, but who the hell is buying a new console because of how the console looks? By not showing the console people thought it was just an add-on for their virtual bowling machine they had already gotten bored of years ago.
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Jul 3, 2017 20:47
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^^ I know that, but if it was called "Ultra Nintendo, Nintendo's Newest Console gently caress YEAH" the picture wouldn't matter.lelandjs posted:The controller: a giant slab with a lovely resistive touchscreen and a three hour battery life The controller: a comfortable, lightweight, ergonomic design with built-in second screen, and ample battery life (plus optional larger battery) The games: a great lineup coming eventually (because it is a console launch) There was really nothing wrong with WiiU beyond marketing, and the eventual game library, including BotW, proves that.
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Team Cherry posted:Physical Switch – Team Cherry is often asked whether a physical version of Hollow Knight is coming for Nintendo Switch. In fact, the question keeps filling up our inboxes! While we’re not able to announce anything, we can say we’ve been looking into it making this happen, and things are looking promising! Quit playin' games with my heart!
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Jul 3, 2017 20:54
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The Bloop posted:There was really nothing wrong with WiiU beyond marketing, and the eventual game library, including BotW, proves that. I don't think that's true. I think if Nintendo is going to keep releasing consoles that are underpowered compared to their competitors and appeal to more than diehard Nintendo fans who'll buy anything, they have to offer something different that people actually want. The Switch does that. The Wii U didn't. It had underpowered hardware and nothing positive to offset that except for those who will buy every machine that plays Nintendo first party titles. I can only offer myself as evidence, but after I bought the Wii despite its gimmick only to end up with it gathering dust for years, I was extremely skeptical of the Wii U, and they never sold me on it.
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The Bloop posted:The controller: a comfortable, lightweight, ergonomic design The Bloop posted:with built-in second screen, and ample battery life (plus optional larger battery) The Bloop posted:The games: a great lineup coming eventually (because it is a console launch) The Bloop posted:There was really nothing wrong with WiiU beyond marketing, and the eventual game library, including BotW, proves that. asecondduck fucked around with this message at 21:10 on Jul 3, 2017 |
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Jul 3, 2017 21:05
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Wii U was cool and I would hook it up but GOTY TMS#FE requires both screens and nope. Gimme that port, Nintendo, come on do it.
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Jul 3, 2017 21:07
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lelandjs posted:Meanwhile, the PS4 and Xbox One launched with even more compelling exclusives and mulitplat games on the horizon than the Wii U would ever get.... Okay, the PS4 did, at least. Those compelling PS4 exclusive launch titles like Knack and Killzone
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deadwing posted:Those compelling PS4 exclusive launch titles like Knack and Killzone Sorry, I should have clarified that there were more compelling exclusives in the pipeline for the PS4 (Uncharted 4, Bloodborne) when it launched than were announced for the Wii U at that point in time. Most of the actual console launch lineups have been garbage (besides the Switch). [Edit: MGSV wasn't PS4 exclusive, duuuuuuh] asecondduck fucked around with this message at 21:16 on Jul 3, 2017 |
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Jul 3, 2017 21:11
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The PS4 didn't really take off for me until this year.
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Jul 3, 2017 21:14
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Basically all consoles are garbage and PC gaming is where it's at because they get all the best games Except the Marios and Zeldas
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Captain Toad for life.
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Jul 3, 2017 21:31
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The PS4 sold as well as it did based on marketing. That's not a detriment against it, but that's the reason why.
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Jul 3, 2017 21:34
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TFRazorsaw posted:The PS4 sold as well as it did based on marketing. That's not a detriment against it, but that's the reason why. That, and Microsoft spending the vast majority of 2013 pissing gamers off.
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Jul 3, 2017 21:43
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I mean, a good portion of their marketing was taking the piss out of Microsoft, so it kind of went hand in hand.
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Jul 3, 2017 21:53
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For some reason I've always called the came "Splitoon" instead of SPLAToon. I think I'm broken.
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Just went to the NYC Nintendo store and there was a lot of rage because customers would pick up the switch cases only to be told they were sold out.
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Dugong posted:Release a right green Reggie I have a Pro controller and usually only play 2-player if Im doing Co op or multiplayer so I have no need for more controllers but god drat I really wanted the clown vomit neon switch and now that I have that, I want the pink and green alternate color scheme about as badly. I kinda liked the pink and blue, but didnt think I would like them as much as I do now that Ive seen them in person, I just liked them more than "boring old grey". I havent seen the neon yellow and dont really care too much about it but I feel like it probably looks nice (theyre still selling out everywhere and being scalped and resold), and these new colored ones are gonna get sold out everywhere day one--if they ever come stateside. If Nintendo released tons of different color individual joycons they could have a real loving racket. I would have crazy anxiety over which color I wanted though because Im loving retarded.
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Had a lot of downtime at appointments today so I played a bunch of Mario Kart and Arms online. This Switch console kinda owns.
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Housh posted:For some reason I've always called the came "Splitoon" instead of SPLAToon. I think I'm broken. Should be pronounced Spluh-toon tbh
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chaleski posted:When I'd explain the concept of the WiiU to someone (which was fairly often), the next question was often "oh its a tablet, so you can take it anywhere?" I had a lot of friends see my Wii U and assume I could just take the gamepad on a plane. Every single one was shocked when I told them you couldn't.
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Wii U launched with nintendoland and NSMBU. This was followed up by a dead zone of like 8 or 9 months before good games (like pikmin 3). And none of the third party ports were noticeably better, if at all, than they had been on PC/360/ps3. Switch launched with Breath of the Wild. It was followed by monthly tentpole titles for the first year, including mario kart, new mario, new splatoon. And even if a port comes to switch running exactly like it does on any other system, the portability is automatically a huge selling point even if you already own a copy on PC or whatever. And yes, having a better name, clearer purpose/utility, and stronger advertising campaign helps a lot too. (don't get me wrong nsmbu and nintendoland were fun games, but they weren't system sellers)
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Imagined posted:If someone doesn't say something about when Stardew Valley is coming or wtf is going on I'm going to post about it on the internet so hard. How can there be NO updates? chucklefish is porting the game and handling the multiplayer, and they are incompetent game devs as it is. if it comes out at all it'll be on the Nintendo Swiitch.
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wait.. what the gently caress happened to pocket fighter?
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NSMBU is the second best selling Wii U game after MK8 so it kind of is
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Dr. Tim Whatley posted:wait.. what the gently caress happened to pocket fighter? It was in limbo long before it was announced for the Switch, the funny thing is that they announced a date at all. I remember first seeing it years ago at this point.
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TFRazorsaw posted:I mean, a good portion of their marketing was taking the piss out of Microsoft, so it kind of went hand in hand. It is insane how Microsoft handed Sony the generation on a silver platter with a garnish. Sony won the second they were able to do that short "how to share games on the PS4" video during E3 on the fly, with Shu handing a disc to Adam, before Microsoft had a chance to course correct. Then during the actual Sony conference, they were just so casually like "oh yeah also it's only $399." The slide even looked like it had been made in 30 seconds, like Sony had called an audible after hearing $499 from Microsoft. Either way, after citizens united decided that corporations are basically people, Sony should be in prison because we saw a murder live on stage during E3 2013.
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I'm kind of sour on giving Sony credit for that, but it was smart at least. They were just fully ready to pull the same poo poo themselves until they saw the backlash. Sony has its own share of anti-consumer policies that have cropped up in the years since so, ha ha, always remember these are corporations, not your friends.
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Jul 3, 2017 22:43
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The Wii U was good and so is the Switch
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I don't think there's any evidence to suggest Sony was going to do the whole "always online, no used games, forced camera/microphone in your house" thing that MS was planning. As far as anti-consumer stuff goes, I think my biggest beef is the price raise in PS+. Otherwise things seem fine as is.
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Morby posted:I don't think there's any evidence to suggest Sony was going to do the whole "always online, no used games, forced camera/microphone in your house" thing that MS was planning. As far as anti-consumer stuff goes, I think my biggest beef is the price raise in PS+. Otherwise things seem fine as is. Shuuhei Yoshida himself said they changed their policy at the last minute.
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