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maskenfreiheit posted:NSA AGENT: Well, you'd be working on the cutting edge. You'd be exposed to the kind of dank memes that you wouldn't see anywhere else - because we've classified them. https://youtu.be/lzAuXuxD0Oo
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reminds me of how a customer at $av_vendor was pissed off when we told them that we wouldn't give them follow the sun support for their inability to understand that you don't go and update the software across the board. that said, the software was poo poo but still you don't go deploying crap without testing how it'll affect things these idiots installed the av software on loving medical devices and blindly updated the version
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Lain Iwakura posted:reminds me of how a customer at $av_vendor was pissed off when we told them that we wouldn't give them follow the sun support for their inability to understand that you don't go and update the software across the board. that said, the software was poo poo but still you don't go deploying crap without testing how it'll affect things for further context on that chat snippet: - the software they are talking to the support engineering team for is the 5 year old version too - the bug they have was fixed in an update 4 years ago - they claim it would be too hard to update all 5000 of their endpoints to a new version, but - it is impossible to fix this, even with a custom patch, without updating all the endpoints to a new version, because the bug exists both client and server side
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fishmech posted:for further context on that chat snippet: "eat poo poo"
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fishmech posted:for further context on that chat snippet: My company provides a solution for a large online retailer that owns half of Seattle, and they wanted to deploy a newer physical product. So they tested the product on the client side and it didn't work! This was because their server software was out of date. Well, they refused to update the software due to 'downtime', even though we said we would do the update overnight or any other time they chose. We are talking about maybe 30 minutes max, and certainly nothing mission critical. Instead, they demanded every version of software that had been released for the newer product so that they could test every combination and try and make something work. Engineering back east told them to gently caress off. Locally, they asked me and I said 'lol no'. This is a huge account so eventually they found someone to send them the files, and somehow killed the product. They had to update anyway.
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just lol if you can't do zero-downtime updates
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Peachfart posted:My company provides a solution for a large online retailer that owns half of Seattle, and they wanted to deploy a newer physical product. So they tested the product on the client side and it didn't work! This was because their server software was out of date. theres something to be said for letting customers go with their plan that won't work after explaining why it won't work and that it'll break in this way that way when they do it they'll actually believe you next time 
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Jabor posted:just lol if you can't do zero-downtime updates let's talk about ics then. you cannot believe the nightmares that come with it
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pseudorandom name posted:they're not atheists, just last week the Russian Orthodox Church joined the government in condemning Telegram it was a Bloom County reference 
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hobbesmaster posted:theres something to be said for letting customers go with their plan that won't work after explaining why it won't work and that it'll break in this way or they'll blame you for it not working and demand that you make it work i mean why didn't you make it work what are we even paying you for???
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ate all the Oreos posted:or they'll blame you for it not working and demand that you make it work i mean why didn't you make it work what are we even paying you for??? I'm pretty sure this is what ended up happening. Luckily, after they broke the stuff and I had already said no, they went through sales to 'resolve the issue' which is good since I would have laughed at them and probably gotten fired.
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ate all the Oreos posted:"hospital" and "end of life" in the same sentence The death panels are real! 
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ate all the Oreos posted:"hospital" and "end of life" in the same sentence I only do palliative software maintenance
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sure they're too lazy to update software but they'll totally go to the effort to replace us with another vendor if we tell them to patch poo poo - sales 
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Munkeymon posted:sure they're too lazy to update software but they'll totally go to the effort to replace us with another vendor if we tell them to patch poo poo - sales In my experience spite always trumps sense, and I've seen multiple CTOs make sweeping decisions (like dumping a service or platform) even though the workload would be twice that of what they weren't willing to do in the first place.
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Is it called cyber because trump called it cyber in a debate? So now they have to adjust their marketing?
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French Canadian posted:Is it called cyber because trump called it cyber in a debate? So now they have to adjust their marketing? yeah trump constantly refers to itsec and everything related with an umbrella term "the cyber"
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Subjunctive posted:I only do palliative software maintenance As a Mozilla dev I,
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spankmeister posted:As a Mozilla dev I, as a thundeahahhahahaha
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French Canadian posted:Is it called cyber because trump called it cyber in a debate? So now they have to adjust their marketing? sadly no, the MIC has been calling it that for a decade or so because "cyber" sounds cooler to people with stars or stripes on their shoulders than "information" compare "information security" or "information warfare" with "cyber security" or "cyber warfare" also hi5 if you have cyber to wizard installed
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working in the government space has taught me to just embrace cyber because then people will at least have a vague idea of what you're talking about
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http://www.zdnet.com/article/secure-pc-self-destruct-data-tampered-with/
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Wish your posting rig would self destruct
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spankmeister posted:Wish your posting rig would self destruct its close, has been rattling for a while now
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orwl? yarwl (nowcry)
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Cocoa Crispies posted:sadly no, the MIC has been calling it that for a decade or so because "cyber" sounds cooler to people with stars or stripes on their shoulders than "information" some of the senile flag officers and senior executives of the defense and intelligence organizations think "information operations" has to do with propaganda and "cyber operations" is very definitely computers so it's really more of an anti age-discrimination thing
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im the thought in "And thought the PC boasts temperature monitoring and side-channel attack protection, it doesn't specify exactly how."
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I have a friend in public sector strategic consulting who says the difference between "infosec" and "cyber" in his materials is 5 speaking engagements and $250K/year.
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Cocoa Crispies posted:sadly no, the MIC has been calling it that for a decade or so because "cyber" sounds cooler to people with stars or stripes on their shoulders than "information" Indeed, and I know cyber "whatever" has been around forever but I am unaware of when just "cyber" became a term. It's like saying "I like mountain" and forgetting to add "climbing", "biking" or "making GBS threads".
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French Canadian posted:Indeed, and I know cyber "whatever" has been around forever but I am unaware of when just "cyber" became a term. It's like saying "I like mountain" and forgetting to add "climbing", "biking" or "making GBS threads". so you have not heard a word uttered out loud by new american president who honest to god is worse at english than me, english as a fourth language foreigner with combined 4 months of residence in an englisn speaking country in my entire lifetime
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French Canadian posted:Indeed, and I know cyber "whatever" has been around forever but I am unaware of when just "cyber" became a term. It's like saying "I like mountain" and forgetting to add "climbing", "biking" or "making GBS threads". you mean when did cyber start meaning IT and not chat room sex
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spankmeister posted:Hmm slight chance I might be going to def con after all we should have a defcon goon meet
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cinci zoo sniper posted:so you have not heard a word uttered out loud by new american president who honest to god is worse at english than me, english as a fourth language foreigner with combined 4 months of residence in an englisn speaking country in my entire lifetime nobody cybers better than him
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