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It terms of marketing and trying to establish themselves within the world of TV, it sort of makes sense why they did it. At least with Arrested Development, you could watch the whole series by letting it play. MST3K season 11 is under a separate entry from the rest of the show. I can't believe how soon I get to see the live show! In the not too distant future, next Thursday, A.D....
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tarlibone posted:Finally finished the season last night.
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Jul 3, 2017 17:33
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ringu0 posted:I have one more episode to go, but I can already tell The Christmas That Almost Wasn't had the best host segment of the season. Man, that movie... That whole movie seemed to me like some movie producer had a terrible idea that sounded good when he wrote it down, probably because he'd passed out in a drunken stupor and was still drunk when he woke up from a bad dream, at which point he grabbed a pencil and paper and wrote down "lawyer saves Christmas by using legal bureaucracy." (Hey, this producer may think of bad ideas for movies, but he can spell very well when drunk.) Then, on a bet he couldn't afford to lose, he had to make that movie. And the film we saw was the result. The whole time I watched it, I couldn't stop thinking, "Why is this movie? Why is it?"
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Jul 3, 2017 17:38
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tarlibone posted:Man, that movie... I've said it before, but it feels to me like an alien whose only experience of Earth was through broadcasts of schmaltzy Christmas specials decided to try penning one, and then pod person-ed his way into an Italian guy to write and act in the movie. It has all the right notes, but the instrument is horribly, horribly out of tune.
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Jul 3, 2017 17:48
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tarlibone posted:Man, that movie... I looked it up on wikipedia, and apparently The Christmas That Almost Wasn't is a lovechild of Sam Whipple (original book and movie adaptation) and Phineas Prune (directing). When both writer and director also co-star in the movie they're making, yeah, it's a hallmark of an MST3K movie.
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Bicyclops posted:I've said it before, but it feels to me like an alien whose only experience of Earth was through broadcasts of schmaltzy Christmas specials decided to try penning one, and then pod person-ed his way into an Italian guy to write and act in the movie. It has all the right notes, but the instrument is horribly, horribly out of tune.  ?
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Jul 3, 2017 18:40
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*wacky music playing as chaos descends on the set* Whipple, no!!
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Jul 3, 2017 18:59
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Bicyclops posted:*wacky music playing as chaos descends on the set* But he's just a babbbyyyyyyyyy! Gods that episode is creepy
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Jul 3, 2017 19:01
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Trumpy, you can do stupid things!!
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Jul 3, 2017 20:38
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tarlibone posted:Man, that movie... Of all things, the part that somehow stuck out to me as the least plausible aspect of the movie was this: The entire matter of north pole foreclosure was over a sum of money that amounted to a few days' wages at a department store. You'd think someone in the world would have been willing to spot Santa a few c-notes until January.
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Jul 3, 2017 22:09
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My favorite episodes of the Netflix series are right in a row: Time Travelers (brilliant host segment where Joel makes a cameo as "Larry"), Avalanche (I'm a huge sucker for 70s disaster movies), and The Beast of Hollow Mountain (the running Blazing Saddles theme song gag absolutely slays me and there are two really strong host segments: Tom's fashion show and Crow and Tom freaking everyone out by re-enacting the mysterious festival dancing). I give an honorable mention to The Land That Time Forgot. I want to like Starcrash more than I do but it really suffers too much under the weight of the hideously bad acting. The riffs can help some movies rise above bad acting, but Starcrash is not one of those. (A futuristic robot with a terrible southern drawl? REALLY?!?)
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Jul 3, 2017 22:25
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I don't know why Starcrash doesn't work for me as an episode. The movie is just loving exhausting with all the constant insanity that it throws at you. I would have thought that was a good thing, but it just doesn't work for me, neither as a good-bad movie or the riffing for it (though, there's some great gems in there). I love the back half of the season, starting with the Herc movie.
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Jul 4, 2017 01:11
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Clouseau posted:I don't know why Starcrash doesn't work for me as an episode. The movie is just loving exhausting with all the constant insanity that it throws at you. I would have thought that was a good thing, but it just doesn't work for me, neither as a good-bad movie or the riffing for it (though, there's some great gems in there). I think the problem with Starcrash is that the movie itself manages to completely overshadow the riffs. Just about the only riff I even remember is the one that's a full song. The movie is SO weird and SO bad that riffs have no power over it.
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Jul 4, 2017 01:15
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On paper it's the perfect MST3K fodder though. An italian star wars ripoff made with 5% the budget, a robot with a southern accent, a mincing villain, a hero who constantly receives brand new superpowers that we've never heard of, Christopher Plummer, and David loving Hasselhoff!!! I was really looking forward to seeing it, and boy oh boy was it a bummer.
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Jul 4, 2017 01:18
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tarlibone posted:Trumpy, you can do stupid things!! The Nostradamus of riffs.
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Jul 4, 2017 01:27
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My family has a history of riffing every Christmas classic ever, so The Christmas That Almost Wasn't felt particularly homey. It was like 5 cliche ridden Christmas movies in one, all done terribly.
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Jul 4, 2017 02:30
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Starcrash is too slow paced to be as incoherent as it is. I'm a sucker for late-70s, immediately-post-Star Wars space opera aesthetics, but with that and Caroline Munro it's still just tedious.
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I thought Starcrash was incredible. That five minute long fighter takeoff sequence was the 2001 monolith opening of bad scifi.Powered Descent posted:I think the problem with Starcrash is that the movie itself manages to completely overshadow the riffs. Just about the only riff I even remember is the one that's a full song. The movie is SO weird and SO bad that riffs have no power over it. I thought that add to the, uh, "charm", such as it is. Sometimes the badness transcends mere mortals and you can only witness, pardner!
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Powered Descent posted:Of all things, the part that somehow stuck out to me as the least plausible aspect of the movie was this: The entire matter of north pole foreclosure was over a sum of money that amounted to a few days' wages at a department store. You'd think someone in the world would have been willing to spot Santa a few c-notes until January. I gave up on plausibility early on; this aspect didn't even register for me because I was already aghast at the amount of disbelief they needed me to suspend. To wit:
But now that you've mentioned it... yes, it is equally absurd that the amount of money needed to solve the crisis amounted to a few day's wages at a department store. Also absurd: how does this lawyer not have any money at all? He has an office and a safe and good clothes and extra money for decorations... but no money at all? Really?
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Jul 4, 2017 07:24
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For as much as I love this season, Starcrash was definitely the most difficult watch for me. Not sure if it was the movie or the jokes or what, but none of it really worked.dirksteadfast posted:My family has a history of riffing every Christmas classic ever, so The Christmas That Almost Wasn't felt particularly homey. It was like 5 cliche ridden Christmas movies in one, all done terribly. The Christmas That Almost Wasn't was one of our family's yearly Christmas watches. I think my mom saw it in the movies as a kid and tracked down a VHS copy when I was small. The Prune song and a few assorted quotes from it were catchphrases around our home. Didn't diminish my enjoyment of the MST treatment, but I could totally watch it on its own.
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Jul 4, 2017 07:58
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Bicyclops posted:I can't believe how soon I get to see the live show! In the not too distant future, next Thursday, A.D.... Ditto. Taking the kids along, too! It's important to start educating them early.
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Jul 4, 2017 15:24
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Gaspy Conana posted:For as much as I love this season, Starcrash was definitely the most difficult watch for me. Not sure if it was the movie or the jokes or what, but none of it really worked. I enjoyed Starcrash, although I can't say it was particularly memorable. But then I remember probably as much from it as most of the other episodes, and more than some. And the robot's accent in particular is just so over-the-top WTF that I couldn't help but enjoy it, and I found myself wishing he were in it more, and I was actually disappointed when he was killed, and relieved when they fixed him. I was watching the whole thing with dumbfounded bemusement and I'm not even sure I think the riffs were strictly necessary for my enjoyment.
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Jul 4, 2017 15:33
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Unpopular opinion: I thought Starcrash was a solid episode, and the Christmas film was so dour that the jokes never elevated it over a C.
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Franchescanado posted:Unpopular opinion: I thought Starcrash was a solid episode, and the Christmas film was so dour that the jokes never elevated it over a C. Unpopular, but the Correct opinion.
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idonotlikepeas posted:Ditto. Taking the kids along, too! It's important to start educating them early. Nice! I hope they have a lot of fun. Hopefully Joel et alia have made it a good time for families.
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Jul 5, 2017 03:19
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Gotta say they did pick an odd movie to end the season on. It was one of the weakest riffs, though still better than, say, Hamlet
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tarlibone posted:Trumpy, you can do stupid things!! The riff that perfectly encapsulates the world we live in.
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Jul 5, 2017 03:36
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Hamlet is a good episode.
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Google didn't help much, but is there a particular reason for the absolutely bizarre freeze-frame montage in The Christmas That Almost Wasn't? Granted it inspired one of the funniest host segments they've ever done, but it's so weird. The only thing I can think of is that either there was a licensing issue for a song or that the footage got chewed up at some point and had to be replaced with whatever frames they could salvage (since a lot of the freeze frames have damage. It's up there with other inexplicable editing things like the hand holding the watch in Danger!! Death Ray
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Jul 5, 2017 04:15
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Man the hand throwing the watch into the pool in Danger Death Ray is one of the best things.
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Jul 5, 2017 04:17
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HopperUK posted:I haven't listened to your show (yet) but I think I'd rather keep to a randomised approach. That way if I have a favourite era I'm not waiting ages to hear something I'm super excited about. Breadallelogram posted:Maybe alternate talking about greatest hits popular episodes with lesser known ones? 8one6 posted:A suggestion off the top of my head: Make two pools. One is all the episodes currently on Netflix (old and new) and another that is all the rest. Alternate between the two pools so at least half your episodes can directly lead to people watching the episode in question. drrockso20 posted:I'd modify this suggestion to take into account that a bunch more episodes are also on YouTube(legally), Hulu, and Shout Factory's own streaming service as well as just Netflix Thanks a lot for the suggestions. Yeah, there's so much to cover for the podcast that it can be hard to know what the best approach is. ja2ke posted:Man the hand throwing the watch into the pool in Danger Death Ray is one of the best things. I expected the camera to pull back to reveal disinterested Italian crewmen a la Bava's Black Sabbath. How did they leave that in? EDIT: Also, Starcrash is great and is tied for my number one spot of the season with Cry Wilderness and (maybe) Carnival Magic.
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If the original Italian version of Danger!! Death Ray is missing the ghost watch moment, it's probably the result of whoever was preparing the English language version not cutting the negative properly. Sort of like how the "brrrring" in Monster a-Go-Go is heard, even though it's obvious it was meant to be covered up by a real sound effect in post. They just didn't care.
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Just leaving the live show in Boston. There are definitely still some technical difficulties to work out, mostly with volume and syncing, but the riffs were really, really good. Hampton in particular seemed to just draw energy from the crowd, and they gave Rebecca a lot more material, which was great. Also, there were a lot of excited kids in the crowd, which is a good sign. A kid about 8 behind me laughed and laughed when the bots yelled "shut up" at one of the guitar songs. Seriously fantastic riffing, above all else. A few meta references, because, hey, it's a live show, and some sing-alongs, but mostly just really well timed, goofy jokes and references. I definitely highly recommend it if it comes to your city. I think I liked this script better than the original riff.
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It was really good. I still don't get Joel's fixation on the "watch out for snakes" line as a unifying theme, as it really drew attention to how minor the line is, but it was a solid and good show. I thought the replacement Servo guy did a great job, sounding very much like Kevin.
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business hammocks posted:It was really good. I still don't get Joel's fixation on the "watch out for snakes" line as a unifying theme, as it really drew attention to how minor the line is, but it was a solid and good show. I think it worked out well: It's part of Kinga's attempt to cash in on the brand - she took a catchphrase and ran with it, slapping it as a theme on the tour, on t-shirts, and even going so far as to interrupt the riffing with a "magic word" like alarm for it. Yeah, the guy they had doing Servo did really well. I hope they throw him some cameos if they get a season 12.
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Jul 7, 2017 03:29
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Mind tossing what the other film was in spoilers? I'm curious how it fits the "Watch out for snakes" namesake (I'm going to guess it doesn't really). Also, was there any mention of it being taped? I wonder if it might show up as a special on Netflix at some point in the future.
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We don't know what the other film is, unfortunately. Boston is one of the few cities they're only doing Eegah! in. Joel said they'd be announcing what the surprise film was just before they show it for the first time, so I'll be interested to see.
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Yeah, my kids were pretty thrilled. My daughter in particular cracked up every time they made fun of how white everything in the movie is. Joel and the bots also asked Gypsy what was in the payload. It's not chowder.
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So is Joel participating in the riff itself then, or just Jonah, Hampton, and replacement Servo?
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Joel did a little intro and talked at the end, but, alas, did not riff.
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