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And now, your Top 15 (and notables, because holy poo poo this is a treat) 1. Stenhouse 2. Bowyer 3. Menard 4. McDowell 5. Newman 6. Ragan 7. Brendan Gaughan* 8. Allmendinger 9. Jones 10. Buescher 11. Lajoie 12. JimmieBot 13. DiBenedetto 14. McMurray 15. Bubba Wallace* 17. Saurez 20. KyBusch 22. Chase (-1) 25. Danica (-9) 32. Junior (-lol) I love chaos. I just hope Jimmie Bot doesn't do his usually and proceeds to curbstomp the field come chase/playoffs/whatever time.
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Norns posted:It felt like we got hard racing the entire race. I liked it. Yep. I was shocked they were racing so hard right out of the gate. Were they afraid the race would get rain shortened? Wish an underdog team would've won the race (although I guess Roush counts as an underdog team these days), but over all pretty pleased with the race.
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I can't like NASCAR when there are so many cautions. The race had 14, which was a 400 record. Fifty-one laps of 163 were under yellow, plus the red flag. It's one thing to race hard knowing it's the only way you can get a good stage/race finish, but it seems as if the motivation to get the front was to try to avoid the wrecks more than anything. Doing that probably contributed to there being more wrecks. Cautions breed cautions, I guess. Is it too much to ask for drivers to race hard knowing that cautions would be rare? Because at the plate tracks the only thing I see are terrible drivers who don't know how race hard and race clean.
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Haven't watched any race this season. Without telling me the results, what are some of this year's races I should check out?
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WindyMan posted:plate tracks...race hard...race clean. This isn't the 80s or 90s plate races anymore. Front Row won one a couple years ago and had a drat good shot to do it again tonight. To "race hard", you have to drive like Keselowski and Logano through traffic, or else you're just riding in line. There is almost no margin for error or vagueries on where cars are around you. This race was good BECAUSE they were racing hard, there were more crashes than normal partly because the field experience level is lower than it's been in the past. But you can't have hard plate racing without a lot of wrecks, there's just not the margins to do things as cautiously as in the past. I hate this kind of racing, but I don't see anything they can really do to spread the field which doesn't make it even more dangerous.
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Gozinbulx posted:Haven't watched any race this season. Without telling me the results, what are some of this year's races I should check out? Off the top of my head I would say all three plate races, martinsville, maybe california? Jeff Gluck does a "good race?" poll every week that puts bristol and kansas up there as well.
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https://twitter.com/roushfenway/status/881358604804247552
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Thats a cool photo
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Gozinbulx posted:Haven't watched any race this season. Without telling me the results, what are some of this year's races I should check out? Add Pocono to Kidc's list. Great finish.
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Jul 2, 2017 15:28
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All things considered this season has been solid. Lots of first time winners that I really like. Kyle still doesn't have a win so that's also pretty cool.
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CBJSprague24 posted:Add Pocono to Kidc's list. Great finish. Pocono, as a whole for a track, feels like they'd really have to try to have a lovely race there ever, but that's me. Norns posted:All things considered this season has been solid. Lots of first time winners that I really like. Kyle still doesn't have a win so that's also pretty cool. Neither does JGR as a whole (though that means no Suarez wins) or Chase Elliot.
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Jul 2, 2017 15:42
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So David Ragan is 1 for 3 in not loving up a late race restart at Daytona.
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kidcoelacanth posted:Off the top of my head I would say all three plate races, martinsville, maybe california? Jeff Gluck does a "good race?" poll every week that puts bristol and kansas up there as well. Which were the plate races? I'm afraid if I look it up the results will be spoiled
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Gozinbulx posted:Which were the plate races? I'm afraid if I look it up the results will be spoiled Daytona and Talladega are plate races.
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It's also probably worth noting that the 500 was fun because it was a complete clusterfuck
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kidcoelacanth posted:It's also probably worth noting that the 500 was fun because it was a complete clusterfuck Also see the 400 from last night.
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kidcoelacanth posted:It's also probably worth noting that the 500 was fun because it was a complete clusterfuck What was a bigger clusterfuck of the two major US series so far: The 500, Firecracker 400 (shut up, that's it's name), or Indy Texas? No, can't use that 911 crashfest at The Glen.
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iospace posted:What was a bigger clusterfuck of the two major US series so far: The 500, Firecracker 400 (shut up, that's it's name), or Indy Texas? Can I nominate Vettel getting a 10 second penalty for intentionally driving into his points leader competition under caution for an honorable mention It was a Busch league move
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Wasn't last night a record number of "legitimate" cautions?
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exploded mummy posted:Can I nominate Vettel getting a 10 second penalty for intentionally driving into his points leader competition under caution for an honorable mention Wait how many times has he done this?
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Texas was def the biggest fuckcluster. Like big dumb wrecks are at least to be expected in plate racing.
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maffew buildings posted:Wait how many times has he done this? He claimed he lost control because he took a hand off the wheel to protest Hamilton brake testing him in a corner (the telemetry data shows that Hamilton didn't brake at all )
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exploded mummy posted:He claimed he lost control because he took a hand off the wheel to protest Hamilton brake testing him in a corner (the telemetry data shows that Hamilton didn't brake at all ) He went around the corner and lifted. Same thing he did under the last safety car.
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A race that ends with Lance Stroll on the podium automatically gets the biggest clusterfuck award.
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Fauxhawk Express posted:A race that ends with Lance Stroll on the podium automatically gets the biggest clusterfuck award. Are we forgetting who won the Indy 500 this year, my friend? (Although he was a cool and good winner)
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Boomer The Cannon posted:So David Ragan is 1 for 3 in not loving up a late race restart at Daytona. Eh, if Ragan protects the bottom last night, I think Dillon gets by on the top. Looked like Dillon had a run. Damned if he does, damned if he doesn't.
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Yeah he was a sitting duck up there and it wasn't like when he won dega with Gilliland working with him to get up there.
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Kyle Larson said he made more in merchandise sales at a dirt track in PA last night than he has all season in Cup, which sparked conversation on Twitter about NASCAR merch. Jeff Gluck suggested drivers get $1-2 on each $25 t-shirt because NASCAR, sponsors, tracks, and Fanatics all get their cut first.
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CBJSprague24 posted:Kyle Larson said he made more in merchandise sales at a dirt track in PA last night than he has all season in Cup, which sparked conversation on Twitter about NASCAR merch. Jeff Gluck suggested drivers get $1-2 on each $25 t-shirt because NASCAR, sponsors, tracks, and Fanatics all get their cut first. That's interesting. How much does SRA get for-oh right nevermind.
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Boomer The Cannon posted:So David Ragan is 1 for 3 in not loving up a late race restart at Daytona. It's amazing how much more critical people get when someone unusual loses a chance at a win. It's like "come on, you'll never get this good of a chance again, how could you screw this up?"
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CBJSprague24 posted:Kyle Larson said he made more in merchandise sales at a dirt track in PA last night than he has all season in Cup, which sparked conversation on Twitter about NASCAR merch. Jeff Gluck suggested drivers get $1-2 on each $25 t-shirt because NASCAR, sponsors, tracks, and Fanatics all get their cut first. WWE and UFC merch cuts are very similar, if not worse. Indie wrestlers can make much more money on merch sales, and the majority of UFC fighters got hosed over hard on the Reebok sponsorship deal from a couple years ago.
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gently caress Larson's NASCAR merch, I'm getting the dirt stuff-WAY cooler. Also, Ricky Craven wrote an interesting article about drivers being traded like in sportsball: http://www.espn.com/racing/nascar/story/_/id/19804280
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LASTCAR posted:It's amazing how much more critical people get when someone unusual loses a chance at a win. It's like "come on, you'll never get this good of a chance again, how could you screw this up?" I expected a jumped restart like the 2011 Daytona 500, plus Ragan's a bit of an rear end in a top hat.
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Elitist Bitch posted:Also, Ricky Craven wrote an interesting article about drivers being traded like in sportsball: http://www.espn.com/racing/nascar/story/_/id/19804280 I don't dislike this idea, but I'd imagine sponsors and other political BS could quash it real quick.
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Merry Christmas, everyone! https://wsoctv.relaymedia.com/amp/news/local/former-nascar-driver-sued-for-hidden-cameras-inside-home/548720331
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"Maids were stealing"
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Elitist Bitch posted:gently caress Larson's NASCAR merch, I'm getting the dirt stuff-WAY cooler. I think there have only been a few times where a "trade" happened (i.e., one driver was fired only to have that driver slide into the seat vacated by his own replacement): Jeremy Mayfield/John Andretti in 1996 between the 37 and 98 and Steve Park/Jeff Green between the 1 and 30.
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Boomer The Cannon posted:Merry Christmas, everyone! So that's why he retired
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CBJSprague24 posted:I think there have only been a few times where a "trade" happened (i.e., one driver was fired only to have that driver slide into the seat vacated by his own replacement): Jeremy Mayfield/John Andretti in 1996 between the 37 and 98 and Steve Park/Jeff Green between the 1 and 30. Newman/Harvick as well
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