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JBP posted:IR sucks because of two things. The ALP softcock out every time they get their hands on the ability to meaningfully change IR and the LNP go loving whole hog once they have achieved a couple of terms and are looking down the barrel of potential defeat. Clearly the answer is to reform political donations. I can't think of a scenario where that wouldn't overwhelmingly benefit the ALP. Other than that it'll benefit the Greens more, but that won't make bogans vote for them.
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Anidav posted:Yeah but in govt they might just leave it because they tend to take a wait and see approach to liberal bullshit involving welfare. Also I wouldn't consider it so benign, the ALP are no strangers to the perverted poverty porn bullshit that drives welfare policy in this country. Didn't the Whitlam govt essentially abandon the notion of 100% employment as a goal?
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Interestingly VIC ALP seems to be picking up that lib tactic. Mum was saying they're just throwing tonnes and tonnes of cash at their small rural school that barely ever gets funding. Had asbestos inspectors come to look for it, not find any and still get given 170k for construction works for it. Then a further half a million for more construction work.
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Don Dongington posted:Clearly the answer is to reform political donations. I can't think of a scenario where that wouldn't overwhelmingly benefit the ALP. Other than that it'll benefit the Greens more, but that won't make bogans vote for them. I don't think this would work. I mean they should be reformed anyway, but they'd find a way to be just as corrupt whatever the law said.
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lmao if you think labor will do poo poo about PaTH, they don't want to be seen as weak on ~*~dole bludgers~*~ because they'll lose the swing voters who are, as a cohort, the stupidest people in australia. without a dramatic realignment of power in labor ala corbyn, things are going to keep getting worse.
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also accelerationism is a fundamentally flawed idea, we'll all be worked to death before we achieve enough solidarity to be a coherent political force capitalism has won, death is certain
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Tudge on buying Medicare details or how he's avoiding the elephant in the room - identity theft.
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Don Dongington posted:Clearly the answer is to reform political donations. I can't think of a scenario where that wouldn't overwhelmingly benefit the ALP. Other than that it'll benefit the Greens more, but that won't make bogans vote for them.
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Couldn't they do some semi-dodgy poo poo and have the unions strongly suggest their membership donate? Maybe even fully dodgy poo poo like offer a reduction on membership dues if you donate a certain amount.
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Futuresight posted:Couldn't they do some semi-dodgy poo poo and have the unions strongly suggest their membership donate? Maybe even fully dodgy poo poo like offer a reduction on membership dues if you donate a certain amount. I don't understand how these suggestions are dodgy.
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Ban all political donations. Funding should come from the electoral system itself. hosed if I know what that would look like but it has to be better than allowing the system to be openly corrupted.
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Futuresight posted:Couldn't they do some semi-dodgy poo poo and have the businesses strongly suggest their employees donate? Maybe even fully dodgy poo poo like offer a bonus if you donate a certain amount.
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Also yes. Companies and unions already run donation drives for political parties.
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Yeah I thought about companies doing the same but I figured it's a bit different for an inherently political organisation like a union, whereas employees don't have any uniting principle. But I suppose the rest of Australia probably won't get the difference. Banning donations entirely is definitely better though yeah.
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Futuresight posted:employees don't have any uniting principle Try and tell this to a true Glorious Job Creator.
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Periphery posted:Ban all political donations.
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Mr Chips posted:Wouldn't that entrench the status quo and make entry into the system more difficult for new parties? I guess that would entirely depend on how you allocated funding. You'd probably want to include seed funding for new parties and weight funding more heavily to the first <insert low number here> of votes a party gets. It'd be pretty complex and I sure as gently caress wouldn't trust the existing parties to figure it out but it has to be a better option than basically allowing political parties to be bought.
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The solution is to abandon the strong party system we have now and to put important questions to the people.
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I wish we could just have one election and have someone become Emperor of Australia so I can either stay if we get a good one or just go somewhere else and not hold onto hope if it's a bad one.
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JBP posted:I wish we could just have one election and have someone become Emperor of Australia so I can either stay if we get a good one or just go somewhere else and not hold onto hope if it's a bad one. Congratulations, you rolled Ricky Muir as god emperor. You are killed by a car. Would you like to play again?
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I'd hang around for Ricky. 24/7 ute musters and state funded beer.
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What about emulating the Swiss? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_Federal_Council Seven people sharing in being the head of state.
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Ora Tzo posted:What about emulating the Swiss? Do they get magic rings?
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News.com.au led with a rude comment about this. They also have an article up currently about why Millennials are literally incapable of human interaction and can't get a decent job due to being socially inept.
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RIP Yassmin, a truly great troll.
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I would blow Dane Cook posted:RIP Yassmin, a truly great troll. You think they're not going to have an operative in the UK to report back? This is now an international operation my friend.
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ModernMajorGeneral posted:I don't have anything against her but being better company than Malcolm Roberts is nowhere near as impressive as this guy thinks it is. Making fun of him with stupid polls is a hobby for some after he failed spectacularly in making a poll that I couldn't find in 10 seconds of googling.
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:https://twitter.com/SenatorMRoberts...u_a_21715830%2F Made even better by the fact more people rocked up for the I'm a socialist poll.
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Bogan King posted:
dear loser who doesnt like coriander, gently caress off.
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Mamamia hot takeometer off charts with a fresh coriander based post.
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Laserface posted:dear loser who doesnt like coriander, gently caress off. I have a friend who never shuts up about how evil coriander is on Facebook.
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JBP posted:Mamamia hot takeometer off charts with a fresh coriander based post. what's that on a scale from dutton to shorten?
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