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The gov't doesn't muddy anything. It only shits where it eats, swims, plays, breathes, etc.
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There used to be a goon, Sgt Zeno who worked at the Pentagon. When he got bored, he would call the Mojave Phone booth, this becoming an obscure but fevrerntly debated footnote among the  crowd.
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Jul 1, 2017 16:42
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Zeris posted:Lurkers thread best thread happy lurker day
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Jul 1, 2017 17:28
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chemosh6969 posted:edit: and now NASA is trying to coverup pizzagate. it apparently extends to mars. I always wondered why Obama went there. 
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Jul 1, 2017 22:35
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Doc Hawkins posted:I always wondered why Obama went there. 
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Jul 2, 2017 02:53
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Godholio posted:You're posting in GIP, so I assume that you have actually worked for the government in some capacity. As a former Air Force slave, I can't say that I've either been to or never been to the slave colony on mars because of OPSEC.
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Jul 2, 2017 16:18
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chemosh6969 posted:As a former Air Force slave, I can't say that I've either been to or never been to the slave colony on mars because of OPSEC. Oh so you're saying there IS one, you just can't say if you've been to it
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Jul 2, 2017 16:47
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B-b-b-bbbbuusted! 
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MARS LIVES MATTER
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Jul 2, 2017 17:13
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if we colonize mars and find life on that planet, are they the aliens, or are we the aliens?
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Jul 2, 2017 17:32
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Everything is relative
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Jul 2, 2017 18:01
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TBeats posted:if we colonize mars and find life on that planet, are they the aliens, or are we the aliens? We're the Invaders from outer space.
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TBeats posted:if we colonize mars and find life on that planet, are they the aliens, or are we the aliens? Depends on who wins
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Jul 2, 2017 21:08
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Internet Wizard posted:Depends on who you ask
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Jul 2, 2017 23:44
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would we call them native aliens? there's so many questions...
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Build a wall to keep the aliens out and make Mars pay for it.
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Jul 3, 2017 00:34
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TBeats posted:would we call them native aliens? Speed bumps.
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To infinity, and your mom
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Derek Dominoe posted:Build a Dyson sphere to keep the aliens out and make Mars pay for it.
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Derek Dominoe posted:Build a shield to keep the aliens out and make the combination 1-2-3-4-5.
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I was checking to see if NASA ever denied the Panzer tank or the silverback gorilla that were photographed on Mars but instead I found this http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/744225/Chimpanzee-Nazi-Hitler-salute-zoo-Adolf-ape-Heil-right-wing simply shocking
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chemosh6969 posted:I was checking to see if NASA ever denied the Panzer tank or the silverback gorilla that were photographed on Mars but instead I found this Heil to the chimp.
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TBeats posted:if we colonize mars and find life on that planet, are they the aliens, or are we the aliens? Ray Bradbury's the Martian Chronicles.
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quote:... as we wandered along the great avenue lighted by the two moons of Barsoom, and with Earth looking down upon us out of her luminous green eye, it seemed that we were alone in the universe, and I, at least, was content that it should be so.
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TBeats posted:if we colonize mars and find life on that planet, are they the aliens, or are we the aliens? Ask me again after we hand out the smallpox blankets.
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vulturesrow posted:Ask me again after we hand out the smallpox blankets. I'd be willing to bet quite a bit that any first hand exchanges between us and an alien race would have absolutely catastrophic ecological effects on both sides due to microorganisms, (assuming they have microorganisms of their own.) Like we would almost certainly have no choice but to only communicate remotely lest we cause some sort of microbial apocalypse as life from either side starts to colonize a new world that is totally unadapted to the new invaders. Most things would probably have trouble taking root since that cuts both ways but there would undoubtedly be *something* that would spread far and wide and devastate a lot of the native life. Unless their conditions for life are totally incompatible with ours. In which case there's probably no danger of that happening but we won't be able to interact with them very closely anyway.
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TBeats posted:if we colonize mars and find life on that planet, are they the aliens, or are we the aliens? The real question is, do billion-year-dead single-celled organisms care? Because that's all we're finding on Mars, if we find anything.
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my kinda ape posted:I'd be willing to bet quite a bit that any first hand exchanges between us and an alien race would have absolutely catastrophic ecological effects on both sides due to microorganisms, (assuming they have microorganisms of their own.) Like we would almost certainly have no choice but to only communicate remotely lest we cause some sort of microbial apocalypse as life from either side starts to colonize a new world that is totally unadapted to the new invaders. Most things would probably have trouble taking root since that cuts both ways but there would undoubtedly be *something* that would spread far and wide and devastate a lot of the native life. Hell just look at what happened to the Americas after contact was first made. Even communities that didn't make direct contact with Europeans for decades were probably devastated by various diseases in the early 16th century.
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Memento posted:The real question is, do billion-year-dead single-celled organisms care? Because that's all we're finding on Mars, if we find anything. We haven't found any reason microbes couldn't be thriving a few inches into the soil. They exist in harsher environments on Earth.
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They'll make sure to steam us thoroughly before eating the meat off our bones
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There have been theories that we already 1492'd Martian bacteria with the earliest probes.
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TBeats posted:if we colonize mars and find life on that planet, are they the aliens, or are we the aliens? On the one hand they already live there, but on the other hand "alien" is our word perhaps the truth........ is somewhere in the middle?
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my kinda ape posted:I'd be willing to bet quite a bit that any first hand exchanges between us and an alien race would have absolutely catastrophic ecological effects on both sides due to microorganisms, (assuming they have microorganisms of their own.) It's unlikely in the extreme that any organisms from a truly alien origin would be compatible with earthly life even to the extent necessary to infect it. An utterly alien biochemistry could very well lack DNA/RNA, or amino acids, or could be based on entirely opposed chiralities. Bets are off it it's distantly related, like if life has actually transferred between earth and Mars.
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We can't even get along with each other, they'll smite us for being us.
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Phanatic posted:It's unlikely in the extreme that any organisms from a truly alien origin would be compatible with earthly life even to the extent necessary to infect it. An utterly alien biochemistry could very well lack DNA/RNA, or amino acids, or could be based on entirely opposed chiralities. Infect or predate probably not, odds are neither ecosystem would have nutrients compatible with the other. OTOH you might end up with something where it just feeds off some weird metabolic waste product and gradually poisons the host to death.
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Internet Wizard posted:Hell just look at what happened to the Americas after contact was first made. Even communities that didn't make direct contact with Europeans for decades were probably devastated by various diseases in the early 16th century. Exactly. History has taught us that the white people aren't the ones that get sick from meeting new civilizations. It's always the other side. Seriously though, there were well established trade routes, so it was easy for disease to spread.
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chemosh6969 posted:Exactly. History has taught us that the white people aren't the ones that get sick from meeting new civilizations. It's always the other side. Tons of white people died to diseases it's just that Europe also produced tons of surplus population to throw at the new world.
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Namely, syphilis, which appeared in Europe shortly after Columbus' voyage, and was way more virulent and deadly than it is today even when left untreated. Don't be a fool, wrap your tool.
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Plague anybody?
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chemosh6969 posted:Exactly. History has taught us that the white people aren't the ones that get sick from meeting new civilizations. It's always the other side. yea. like that time in the 14th century when 1/3 of europes population was wiped out by the bubonic plague. but white people dont get sick
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