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Willo567 posted:Seriously, how the gently caress are you and Covok not freaking out over this poo poo? Their missle has a flight capacity of 7000 km. If they achieve a missile with a range of 10,000 km, New York is hosed Why freak out?
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Willo567 posted:Seriously, how the gently caress are you and Covok not freaking out over this poo poo? Their missle has a flight capacity of 7000 km. If they achieve a missile with a range of 10,000 km, New York is hosed Legitimate question as I don't know much about missile defence, but wouldn't something launched from NK to NY get shot down either in the ocean or above a flyover state?
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Willo567 posted:Seriously, how the gently caress are you and Covok not freaking out over this poo poo? Their missle has a flight capacity of 7000 km. If they achieve a missile with a range of 10,000 km, New York is hosed Fun Fact: Mutually Assured Destruction is Kim Jong-Un's end goal.
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their missile launches are posturing and distracting from the fact that they could obliterate major SK cities before any response is possible
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Avirosb posted:Fun Fact: Mutually Assured Destruction is Kim Jong-Un's end goal. Sweet China won't have to deal with millions of refugees.
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north korea depresses me because even if kim abdicated tomorrow and said ok world time to do your thing it'd be the biggest humanitarian crisis of all time and it'd cost trillions of dollars and probably take half a century to become a functioning country.
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Jul 4, 2017 11:32
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Nosfereefer posted:North Korea is not just gonna nuke New York for shits and giggles. Elysiume fucked around with this message at 11:35 on Jul 4, 2017 |
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Booyah- posted:their missile launches are posturing and distracting from the fact that they could obliterate major SK cities before any response is possible It's 2017, yet we don't have city-spanning energy shields SMDH this is the saddest timeline
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There's not a drat thing you can do about whatever Kim thinks he's trying to accomplish.
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Groovelord Neato posted:north korea depresses me because even if kim abdicated tomorrow and said ok world time to do your thing it'd be the biggest humanitarian crisis of all time and it'd cost trillions of dollars and probably take half a century to become a functioning country. Wanna source that estimate?
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Jul 4, 2017 11:40
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this only says a decade (seems optimistic to me since you'd have to massively build up the north after reunification) and a price tag of 3 trillion (that's more than double south korea's gdp). http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...c-a7710001.html
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Elysiume posted:I mean yeah, you can have a place that is both able to have both nuclear and ICBM capabilities as well as an unfed, misled, abused populace. Has anyone actually said they're an "overbearing existential threat to the USA"? From what I've seen people have been, at most, freaking out over their nuclear ICBMs (even though iirc having nuclear capacity and ICBM capacity does not guarantee nuclear ICBM capacity). That said, I also don't think NK is liable to actually nuke someone in the short term, but who can say where their sabre rattling will lead. You don't need to be able to destroy a country to have people nervous that a regime like NK is getting closer to LR nuclear warheads. Hey, for all we know it might keep the Don from starting some disastrous invasion.
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SA has fallen far if this many people are genuinely scared of full-scale war breaking out, even with the clown in charge of the US. The last chance that history had to see us all destroyed by nuclear war was the Cuban missile crisis. The overwhelming tug of world culture trends since that debacle has created a zeitgeist of self-preservation that can be seen in even the most underdeveloped countries. The only way that nukes would be fired would be through a freak incident of total hierarchal psychosis, or a terrorist attack. Donald Trump is a showman. He is not some corrupting force of pure evil that seeks to erode the moral foundations humanity has built for the past 10,000 years. He's a white business guy who thinks he can make the United States richer. Like any sane human being, Donald recognizes that starting a full-scale war will destroy the United States. As for North Korea, when the entire economy of your nation is built upon its military, you're going to make a lot of noise about it. They've been doing this since they became a nation, and they're not gonna stop until they absolutely need to. North Korea is not going to start firing missiles at super-powers that could turn around and smite them at any point if pushed to do so. Propaganda is not the reality of a government thought-process, and propaganda is all the information we get from NK.
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NKs real good at half-built pyramids too give them that.
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So I guess we'll get 20 pages of broke-brained militarist fanboys shouting "we can't let the smoking gun be a mushroom cloud" and jacking themselves off at the chance to send another 50,000 virile young American boys to die in another war
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Mustached Demon posted:NKs real good at half-built pyramids too give them that. They were only 4 turns from building them and then Egypt had to go and steal it  Now all they can do is denounce other nations and demand tributes from city-states.
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VitalSigns posted:So I guess we'll get 20 pages of broke-brained militarist fanboys shouting "we can't let the smoking gun be a mushroom cloud" and jacking themselves off at the chance to send another 50,000 virile young American boys to die in another war How white are they?
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Wonderful Bread posted:Donald Trump is a showman. He is not some corrupting force of pure evil that seeks to erode the moral foundations humanity has built for the past 10,000 years. He's a white business guy who thinks he can make the United States richer. Like any sane human being, Donald recognizes that starting a full-scale war will destroy the United States. Hahahahahahahaha Hold on. You actually think Donald Trump is a sane human being? The man is severely mentally ill and emotionally stunted. If there's anything he isn't it's a rational actor. If this lie is what enables you to sleep at night, then so be it, but the truth is that we have a complete madman at the helm.
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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/882186896285282304 nice country boys, have a good one lmao
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There Bias Two posted:Hahahahahahahaha Please detail why you think Donal Trump is severely mentally ill without getting into why you disagree with his policies and method of government. As far as I can tell, he's a basic-bro who posts on Twitter a lot and plays politics poorly. Unrelated, but psychology is the weakest science there is. Bringing it up in discourse is the same as using religion as an argument buffer in 1800.
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How would launching nukes theoretically work? Like I asume even if Don gave the order, at least a few other people would have to actually be willing to obey him, right?
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Wonderful Bread posted:Please detail why you think Donal Trump is severely mentally ill without getting into why you disagree with his policies and method of government. As far as I can tell, he's a basic-bro who posts on Twitter a lot and plays politics poorly. Oh nevermind you're a troll. Piss off.
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Avalerion posted:How would launching nukes theoretically work? Like I asume even if Don gave the order, at least a few other people would have to actually be willing to obey him, right? no, there are a lot of good explanations of this. the system is set up so that if the president wants to nuke, he can nuke with no chance of mutiny. it's pretty bone-chilling, i suggest you look it up!
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Wonderful Bread posted:Please detail why you think Donal Trump is severely mentally ill without getting into why you disagree with his policies and method of government. As far as I can tell, he's a basic-bro who posts on Twitter a lot and plays politics poorly. he's 70 years old and acts like he's 5.
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jBrereton posted:https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/882186896285282304 HAHAHAHAHA I wouldn't have seen this for hours if I wasn't here. Our country is the greatest comedic act in history
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Booyah- posted:no, there are a lot of good explanations of this. the system is set up so that if the president wants to nuke, he can nuke with no chance of mutiny. it's pretty bone-chilling, i suggest you look it up! In theory someone like mattis would scream at him telling him to abort the second the orange one says launch.
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Nosfereefer posted:North Korea is not just gonna nuke New York for shits and giggles. "Thus by a constant shifting of rhetorical focus,..."
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There Bias Two posted:Oh nevermind you're a troll. Piss off. SA is officially 4chan.
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jBrereton posted:https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/882186896285282304 loving hell.
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Wonderful Bread posted:Please detail why you think Donal Trump is severely mentally ill without getting into why you disagree with his policies and method of government. As far as I can tell, he's a basic-bro who posts on Twitter a lot and plays politics poorly.  also https://twitter.com/pacelattin/status/867949635028959232 skylined! fucked around with this message at 12:18 on Jul 4, 2017 |
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Anyone who thinks China would just sit back and let NK nuke the economic center of the country their entire economy is tied to is an idiot  If NK even gets close to getting ready to bomb the US for whatever reason China will probably have a "moment of moral clarity" and make sure the power structure of the NK is cleaned out as well as making sure they still exist to act as a buffer to their border against SK and the USHoly poo poo I knew he was bad but this is like clear time for the nursing home moment
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Which reports though? Is there anything beyond this already widely-circulated footage?
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Wonderful Bread posted:Please detail why you think Donal Trump is severely mentally ill without getting into why you disagree with his policies and method of government. As far as I can tell, he's a basic-bro who posts on Twitter a lot and plays politics poorly. they are only pushing the trump is mentaly ill narrative because the trump-russia collusion conspiracy theory has been thoroughly disproved and his detractors are desperately clinging to the hope that he will somehow get impeached.
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Eox posted:Legitimate question as I don't know much about missile defence, but wouldn't something launched from NK to NY get shot down either in the ocean or above a flyover state? If you've lucky and good and have a system in range, you might be able to intercept it in it's boost phase. Once it's orbital nothing current can touch it till it reaches the USA where theoretically the Ground Based Midcourse Defence system could engage it. It's current status is hard to pin down but people tend to use the word 'limited capabilities' a lot when discussing it. Here's a short overview http://thediplomat.com/2017/06/try-as-it-might-ballistic-missile-defense-wont-solve-the-united-states-north-korea-problem/
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This was only a bit over a month ago? My perception of the passage of time has been well and truly hosed by this administration. It honestly feels like it's been years already.
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said this in the lol thread but we're all that kid in the jaunt that held his breath. LONGER THAN YOU THINK DAD LONGER THAN YOU THINK
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There Bias Two posted:Is there anything beyond this already widely-circulated footage? "what proof do we have of this happening other than this clear, well lit footage of this happening?"
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Eox posted:Legitimate question as I don't know much about missile defence, but wouldn't something launched from NK to NY get shot down either in the ocean or above a flyover state? Depends on the missile type. A true ICBM... no. The warhead pretty much drops straight down from space. A cruise missile? Possibly. But spontaneous failure is more likely than 'shot down'.
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Owlofcreamcheese posted:"what proof do we have of this happening other than this clear, well lit footage of this happening?" I didn't say it wasn't convincing, I was just wondering if there were other available accounts since the tweets referenced "reports".
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