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1. B 2. B 3. B Always b votin' b.
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Jun 18, 2017 14:26
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CCB Fight primarily in the Pacific (particularly to secure Burma), but we also have to send some spare divisions to Canada to make sure they don't fall. If the CSA takes control of the whole continent, nothing is dislodging them.
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1: ABC - We must ensure the Pacific territories before anything else, both for reasons of security and reasons of resources. 2: ACB - Though we are an Asian nation, India can never be as important a front as North America. If the Syndicalists win there, not only will we lose Canada and the PSA, but within a year Chicago's power will be enough to overwhelm anyone else, and in half a decade, enough to overwhelm everyone else. Conversely, even if the Bengalis take all India, they inherit an impoverished and industrially feeble land that we, with help from our new Chinese friends, will be able to hold back with ease and retake in due time. 3: A - What use are our ships if they sail around empty seas? We built them to fight, and we trained our sailors to fight, and now the most important naval fight is in the Atlantic. Besides, we can recall them if unexpected pressure mounts in waters closer to home.
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Jun 19, 2017 06:24
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C, the Marines should be enough to tip the balance against the South Asian communists and frankly they're more of a threat than the last German holdings in the South Pacific. A, I would much rather see Delhi overrun than Canada, and if we've only got a couple dozen divisions to send overseas, better to smash the Yanks and then pick up the pieces in India. A, what good is a navy that you won't sail into the jaws of hell?
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Voting Closed! Vote 1: Borneo: 5 + 1 non-SA New Guinea: 2 Burma: 14 Vote 2: North America: 7 India: 6 Both: 8 + 1 non-SA = 9 + 2 (second preferences of India voters) = 11 Vote 3: Send the Fleet: 9 + 1 non-SA Hold Back the Fleet: 11 Scuttle the Fleet (random vote for c???): 1
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Part Ten: Don’t Let The Giant Out Of Bed (North America: April – August 1939) The conflict between the Internationale and the British broke out in earnest in spring 1939, as the British invaded Iceland, securing the important North Atlantic base.  They then followed up with a misinformation campaign which convinced the Entente to fortify Newfoundland. Instead, the British sailed past the heavily defended island and landed in Nova Scotia, meeting no Canadian resistance.  It was these developments that convinced the Shadow Council, which had voted to assist both Delhi and Canada, to prioritize assistance to Canada.  The first units of the Japanese Expeditionary Force, after sailing to Alaska (to avoid enemy naval patrols), embarked trains to Fargo, North Dakota.  The appearance of thousands of Japanese troops in Fargo was a bizarre event, but for the most part the locals were welcoming of the visitors, especially as the forces of the Pacific States were stretched thin.  The second voyage from Japan brought two of Japan’s three cavalry corps, and these forces were dispatched to Montreal in order to defend against the British invasion of the Atlantic provinces.    After a brief stay in Fargo to regroup after the long trip, the Japanese Expeditionary Force – Midwest was dispatched to Nebraska, where they began their assault across the Missouri River.   The syndicalist defenders lacked in experience and equipment what they had in bravery and commitment, and the numerically superior veteran Japanese forces easily forced a retreat.   The JEF-MW struck south, crossing the Missouri for the second time, towards Springfield.  The Japanese Expeditionary Force – Atlantic Canada, arrived in Montreal in the nick of time to shore up the city’s defenses against the British, who had already captured Quebec City.    The British, accustomed to light and disorganized Canadian resistance, were unprepared for the large and rapid Japanese force which arrived to repel them.  JEF-AC split in two and advanced upon the city. One force rapidly moved to retake the southern bank of the St. Lawrence River, while the other prepared in Montreal.  Surrounded and outnumbered, the British lost well over sixty thousand troops in the Quebec Debacle, as it would be called in London. For a nation that invested heavily in its navy and relatively little in its army, the loss of five divisions was a tremendous blow.  The forces destroyed in Quebec represented just under half of the British invasion force, and the Japanese were eager to destroy the rest. With Canadian armor counterattacking from Maine, one half of JEF-AC struck from the northwest.   Meanwhile in the Midwest, JEF-MW was split into two. The poor quality of the syndicalist militias meant they could be easily beaten back by the skilled Japanese professionals. St. Louis fell easily, a demoralizing loss for the Combined Syndicates.   The bad news continued for the Internationale as two more British infantry divisions were isolated and destroyed on the Gaspé Peninsula.  The JEF-MW’s capture of Saint Louis revealed an enormous shortcoming in the syndicalist’s defenses. By splitting the forces of Missouri in two, the Japanese were able to push half west, trapping them in Oklahoma. While their co-ideologues in Mexico sympathized with their plight, they were unwilling to risk the protection that their neutral status provided and so did not assist them. The other half of the defenses were pushed into Illinois, while Canadian cavalry began to push south into undefended Arkansas.   With the enemy divided, the path to Chicago lay open.  Meanwhile, half of JEF-AC was split off and reassigned to become the Japanese Expeditionary Force – New England. The Entente had captured New York in the first days of the war, and now Japanese cavalry was marching down Broadway.  JEF-NE began their assault through a mad cavalry rush across the George Washington Bridge. After a few weeks of stalemate as the opposing sides exchanged token fire and raids across the Hudson, the syndicalists had been expecting such a bold maneuver.   The reassignment of JEF-NE weakened JEF-AC, and so the Japanese were forced to give up some ground to the British.  The temporary setback was not a disaster, as the British were still bottled up and contained in Nova Scotia and Maine. However, the setback was worth it, as the industrial centers of Newark and northern New Jersey fell to the Entente.    The maneuverability of the Japanese cavalry, along with the well-developed infrastructure of the American Northeast, made it possible for the Japanese to rapidly advance into Philadelphia and then Baltimore, threatening the creation of a pocket in Pennsylvania.    The temporary setback in the Maritimes was reversed as the slower Canadian infantry finally caught up with the Japanese cavalry and halted the British counterattack. By holding the gateway to Nova Scotia, the Entente was able to prevent the British forces in southern New Brunswick from retreating to a position of strength in Nova Scotia. Two more British divisions were lost.  The Japanese advance was Baltimore was halted by the appearance of elite syndicalist infantry. Though it was possible that the Japanese could have forced their way past the enemy, Koji Sakai’s doctrines held that the Japanese should not be fighting bloody battles if they had another choice, and so they elected to hold their position in Philadelphia and allow Entente infantry to reinforce their positions in New Jersey.  The enemy’s morale was badly shaken when Canadian infantry marched into Chicago, forcing the Reed regime to flee to the abandoned Washington offices of the United States government they had defeated only a few years prior.    As Chicago fell, a major controversy erupted as Mexico denied the Combined Syndicates permission for their troops to flee across the border. The Communal government in Paris was irritated that a socialist nation would abandon their co-ideologues, but Mexico was about to find itself very much alone in North America, and so wisely elected not to antagonize the Entente.  With the Oklahoma pocket destroyed, JEF-MW decided to begin an advance southwards towards New Orleans.  And in the east, JEF-NE began a renewed assault on Baltimore. Japan had turned the tide in North America, and it was doubtful that the syndicalists would survive the winter. No votes, as the next update is contemporaneous with this one. Votes for further policy will occur at the next update.
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Beautiful. A Japanese-Canadian invasion bringing democracy beneath a crown to the Syndicalist Americans.
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Huh, I guess the Syndicates didn't had time to recover after all so this was pretty easier than expected (that and Canuck/PSA assistance probably helped). Good news, with the Qing and the Americans strangled in the cradle the only real threat now are the frenchies and with all these UoB divisions wiped out an invasion of the British Islands will probably be much easier.
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Man, just the very idea of Japanese troops backing Canada in a war against the US is the sort of beautiful madness that makes this game worth the whole shebang.
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What the gently caress, the Union AI successfully executed a massive naval invasion of Canada? I repeat: what the gently caress
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Mister Adequate posted:What the gently caress, the Union AI successfully executed a massive naval invasion of Canada? Yeah, I don't think this is being given the attention it deserves, because what the gently caress. I mean, I guess they had the CSA running naval interference for them to aid with the invasion, but still - any sort of naval invasion across an ocean is rare as hell to see from the AI. Of course, as much as it is a blue moon scenario for the AI to execute a naval invasion, executing a naval invasion well - i.E. not having your troops pushed back into the ocean and destroyed - is even more unlikely. Still, one for two ain't bad.
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TheMcD posted:Yeah, I don't think this is being given the attention it deserves, because what the gently caress. I mean, I guess they had the CSA running naval interference for them to aid with the invasion, but still - any sort of naval invasion across an ocean is rare as hell to see from the AI. Without the expeditionary force, it seems like Canada was gonna have some real trouble with those landings.
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Chief Savage Man posted:JEF-NE began their assault through a mad cavalry rush across the George Washington Bridge. Did they use the upper or lower level though?
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GunnerJ posted:Did they use the upper or lower level though? The lower deck was not built until 1962.  Also yes, the Canadians would have been extremely hosed without me because there were I think 14 British divisions in the Atlantic provinces, and before that point, everyone was more or less stalemated.
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Part Eleven: Nippon Asian Syndicalism In The Bud (Asia: April – August 1939) As Japanese forces prepared to ship off to the front lines of the war against the Internationale, the other Sphere members were tasked with wrapping up the war against Germany’s mainland Asian possessions.  Korean forces crossed the straits to Hainan island, sailing on a makeshift fleet of ferries, junks and steamers cobbled together from across the south of China. The German garrison in the area put up a spirited defense but was outnumbered by more than ten to one.  The capture of Hainan was the final goal that the Minseito government set before they would make their final determination on how to proceed with Chinese independence.  The Minseito partnered with the Shakai Taishuto to overcome vociferous Seiyukai opposition to the reformation of the Republic of China. The republican movement, which counted socialists and liberals under its wide umbrella, was judged to have the most support and to be the most reliable option. The Seiyukai strongly protested the removal of a monarch and that the door was left open for socialists to be in power as part of the republican movement. However, the Qing Emperor had almost no legitimacy in China, despised as a German figurehead who was not efficacious enough to push back the Japanese.  Another bone of contention between the Seiyukai and the Minseito was the bold pan-Chinese claims of the new republic. The republic claimed to be the legitimate government of the territories controlled by the National Protection Alliance and the Russian puppet states in the northwest, something that was viewed as a provocation to Russia.  More controversially, the republic also claimed sovereignty over the Legation Cities as well as the territory of the Fengtein Republic.  The first elections took place a few months after independence, and the victory of the social democratic ticket proved a source of delight to the Shakai Taishuto and a source of anxiety to the Seiyukai.  Soong Ching-Ling, the widow of Sun Yat-sen, was elected President, immediately becoming the most powerful woman in the world. Her Vice President was Zhou Shuren, a celebrated author better known as Lu Xun.  The two won a tremendous victory riding a wave of nationalist sentiment. China, argued the pair, was not going to accept a new Japanese master as a replacement of the German master which had just been evicted. The Minseito and Shakai Taishuto, once again over strong Seiyukai opposition, agreed to respect Chinese independence and not to attempt to impose anything resembling the unequal treaties which Qing China had been subjected to in the past.  Behind the scenes, a secret deal was worked out, where the Republic would agree to allow the Japanese command to direct their armed forces in exchange for the Japanese government’s public promises regarding Chinese independence. ~*~*~  The German colony of Indochina represented a potential source of resources for the Sphere. In order to bolster the image of the Sphere as a pan-Asian internationalist anti-colonial movement, Manchurian and Transamurian forces were tasked with the capture of Vietnam. No Japanese forces were involved.  The German presence in Vietnam was small and outnumbered by the invading Sphere forces by about 5 to 1. Hanoi fell quickly and the forces fanned out, one half pushing west into Laos and the other south along the Vietnamese coast.  Transamurian cavalry moved quickly and against little resistance, as the local population was not interested in the slightest in assisting their colonial masters.  A significant amount of German troops were trapped in the mountainous border region with Thailand and forced to surrender after being surrounded by Manchurian forces.  Transamurian forces assisted by some of the new Chinese Republican Army surrounded and captured almost thirty thousand Germans in the southern tip of Vietnam, bringing the front to a quick and decisive close. ~*~*~  After the emergency transportation of Japanese forces to North America, enough transport ships were freed up to begin the planned invasion of Burma.  The Japanese captured Rangoon with almost no resistance and the Marines immediately began to advance north towards the capital.  After Bhartiya forces began to pour into Burma, the Marines were redirected to Bassein to defend the beachhead in Rangoon. As a response to this development, the cavalry corps earmarked for Delhi was redirected to Burma.   The arrival of the cavalry secured the beachhead and allowed the Japanese to continue their plan to thrust north towards Mandalay.  The marines struck north, to secure the western bank of the Irrawaddy river for an assault on Mandalay.  After assisting the cavalry, the marines moved back south to prevent the Bhartiya Army from capturing Rangoon.  The cavalry quickly secured Mandalay, destroying some of the Bhartiya Commune’s precious few warplanes in the process.  With Rangoon and Mandalay both under Japanese control, the socialist regime of Burma collapsed.  The front was far from complete, as the Bharitya Commune continued to fight in Burma.  The government of Delhi was privately irritated by the Burmese adventure, as they (correctly) interpreted it as a way for Japan to expand their sphere of influence. Delhi had envisioned that they were going to defeat the Bhartiya and then annex Burma but they dared not complain as they did not wish to risk a further delay of Japanese assistance, which finally arrived in August.  Despite the tension between the governments, the population in northwest India welcomed the Japanese as saviors.  The arrival of the Japanese Expeditionary Force – India brought great relief to the overstretched Delhi forces, and so the rivalry among the two allies for Asian dominance was forgotten, and Delhi, faced with the potential of being destroyed altogether, learned to accept that it was going to play second fiddle to Japan in Asia. ~*~*~  The positive progress of the Entente and Sphere during the summer was overshadowed domestically by the Great Drought of 1939.  The one story that would have delighted the population was the much-anticipated Ethiopian-Japanese royal wedding, but unfortunately that was delayed by an Ethiopian civil war.  Fortunately for Japanese interests in the area, the rebels were put down in short order.  With the unrest resolved, the wedding finally occurred, and the Japanese population welcomed the distraction from the daily difficulties of war, even a victorious one, and the drought.  The news of two Empires celebrating a marriage was a stark contrast to the events taking place north of Ethiopia, where two other emperors, the Persian and Ottoman, found themselves at war. This followed the expected declaration of war by the Arab bloc on the Ottoman Empire, which was in a state of collapse.  This process was helped along by the Ottoman’s inability to expect assistance from the Germans. War had finally come to the European continent after exploding across Asia and North America.  Though the Germans overran most of the Netherlands, the French quickly pushed through Belgium to link up with their ally. The great fleets of Germany and Britain and the great armies of Germany and France were finally at war with one another as well as with the Entente, providing the alliance some much-needed respite as summer of 1939 turned to fall. POLICY VOTE: Chinese Expansion  PROBLEM: The newly reconstituted Republic of China does not yet cover all of China, and the republicans, united behind Soong Ching-Ling and Zhou Shuren, are not shy about proclaiming their desire to reincorporate the remainder of China into the new state. Of the regions they do not control but claim, Manchuria is out of the question and the Russian client states cannot be attacked without triggering a war with Russia itself, something that Japan, let alone China, is not yet prepared for. However, the National Protection Alliance is isolated and unpopular, their republican supporters deserting them for the new Beijing government. Their territories in Yunnan province and Tibet contain industry and resources that would be beneficial to the Chinese armament effort. In addition, the Legation Cities of Shanghai, Ningbo, Fuzhou and Hong Kong remain independent of the Republic and continue to assert their independence according to the treaty system that established them. However, with the demise of the United States, the old French and Russian republics and the United Kingdom, the only guarantors of this system remaining are Germany (which Japan is already at war with), Japan’s two allies Australasia and Canada, and Japan itself. The Entente and Japan would lose their special economic interests in the area, but Canada and Australasia are willing to give that up if it means the Chinese Republican Army can more rapidly become a major fighting force in service of the Entente’s goals. The catch is that there is little domestic support for either of these adventures, and so there would need to be some “improvised” justifications for Japan to sign off on the operations. In the case of the NPA, their occupation of Hoa Binh in Vietnam provides the possibility of a manufactured border clash, and in the case of the Legation Cities, there can be an accusation that the administration is assisting the German legations in espionage against the Sphere. Even with these operations, we can expect there to be significant domestic backlash. Neither adventure would utilize Japanese forces, instead Sphere forces would be re-deployed from Vietnam to assist the Chinese Republican Army. Option A: Invade the Legation Cities  Global manipulation espionage operations will be used against the Legation Cities, and we will declare war on them. We would gain 7.8% dissent. quote:”The Legation Cities are a scar, an offensive remnant of the exploitative system under which the Chinese proletariat languished for decades. They are colonies, and if the Minseito is serious about its anti-colonial rhetoric then they must agree to help the Chinese reclaim them.” - Hiromi Maida, Shakai Taishuto member of the Diet quote:”The Legation Cities are obsolete and a thorn in our side. We honor our treaties to protect their shipping, which delivers the products of those industrial cities to our enemies in Europe. We cannot abide these havens of German espionage in our midst. It is time for the Legation system to end.” - Youta Tawara, Seiyukai member of the Diet Option B: Destroy the National Protection Alliance  Global manipulation espionage operations will be used against the National Protection Alliance, and we will declare war on them. We would gain 7.8% dissent. quote:”If the Chinese republic is to have legitimacy then it cannot have another contender, no matter how weak and unimportant. We must permit them to annex Yunnan and Tibet.” - Kazutoshi Noda, Minseito member of the Diet Option C: Integrate Both the Legation Cities and National Protection Alliance into the Republic Global manipulation espionage operations will be used against both the Legation Cities and National Protection Alliance, and we will declare war on both. We would gain 7.8% dissent for each declaration, for a total of 15.6%. quote:”A strong China is essential to our security. Along with a united India and North America, a united China would provide the Entente with by far the greatest amount of manpower of any alliance in the world today. We should be doing everything in our power to assist the Chinese to expand, as every bit of industry they have to produce more arms for their multitudes will make it easier for the Entente to score a final and total victory for democracy.” - Masa Kogawa, IJA Officer Option D: Do Nothing quote:”This is madness. A united China is bound to end up even stronger than Japan, and then we will be powerless to stop them from turning us into their puppet. We will defeat the Germans even if we ignore their presence in the Legations, and if the Russians want Tibet then let them have it. Do not let your idealistic naivete permit the republicans to destroy the Sphere from the inside.” - Yoshiki Hirose, Domei member of the Diet
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Hm, didn't mean to make this post, but glad to see we've taken China!
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B/C. Redirect IC to consumer goods to fight the dissent from it and the drought.
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D lol orchestrating a war to keep China from getting too big and strong only to create MegaChina ourselves. Edit: In a runoff my vote goes to A then B. GunnerJ fucked around with this message at 10:37 on Jul 5, 2017 |
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Is there a way to give up the Legations later like IRL Hong Kong?
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GunnerJ posted:lol orchestrating a war to keep China from getting too big and strong only to create MegaChina ourselves. Balkanization was never in the cards, unfortunately. At least this regime is friendly to us...for now.
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C Let freedom reign. 
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C. China must be in our debt.
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I cannot imagine either of these will help with the situation at home; while we have temporarily cowed the Right with our successes and their failures, I do not imagine it can continue forever. I would advise the most cautious course, D. The Republic of China is already in our debt for having successfully removed the hated Germans from their country. However, if it were to come to intervening further in China, I would endorse B. Our alliance with the NPA has always been one of convenience, and they know it just as well as us. If we tacitly avoid forcing the issue on the Legation Cities, it will put our Entente partners in debt to us as well. It also puts us in a position to act as negotiator on the issue in the future, as we have interests in both sides, and therefore increases our international soft power.
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D. We have already made a great mistake in leaving an united and independent China, let's not foster it's growth lest we create something we cannot contain.
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My first instinct was to say we have already spent enough blood and treasure aiding China, but on reflection I must support their ambitions. Would we, as Japanese, not have bruised national pride if, say, a rival regime controlled Kyushu while Shikoku was controlled by foreign powers for the economic exploitation of Japan's people and resources? I would urge Beijing to pursue peaceful and diplomatic solutions first, and let them know we will support those, but if it comes to violence I must vote A B D. We cannot afford to tackle both at once, not with a homeland barely recovered from recent matters and suffering from drought, but to make China not just grateful supplicant but eternal ally, we must accept the matters of pride that will naturally drive them. Ms Adequate fucked around with this message at 06:05 on Jul 5, 2017 |
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I can't decide whether surviving to become the PM of a Japanese client state is a happy ending for Lu Xun or not. His death grudge against Japan as the enemy of China happened during the Russo-Japanese War, which I think still went off normally in the Kaiserreich timeline.
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C. Bigger allies are better allies. We are still at war with the entirety of the Internationale and Mitteleuropa, after all.
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