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*BONG* Due to foreseen events, the departure of Jesus is ahead of schedule and the arrival of Jesus has been delayed. *BING BONG*
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Ceciltron posted:Caufman rapidly becoming one of my favourite posters itt. Wholeheartedly agree.
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# ? Jul 2, 2017 20:43 |
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That would be a great magical realism/horror story ala Süskind's Perfume, I think The story of a man who looks for God in the hearts of his neighbours. Literally.
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# ? Jul 2, 2017 20:49 |
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System Metternich posted:That would be a great magical realism/horror story ala Süskind's Perfume, I think Holy poo poo yes, that sounds great. love your av, too. I found a notebook in a little shop in London that had that picture on the cover and it's so nice I am nervous to write things in it. Love a bit of Dore.
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# ? Jul 2, 2017 20:53 |
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Caufman posted:*BONG* I'm sitting in an airport and this could not be more accurate.
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# ? Jul 2, 2017 20:53 |
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You're all very kind. I am the best of who I am because of the love I've been graced to receive, no less from the love you all send out in this thread.
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# ? Jul 2, 2017 22:47 |
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Caufman posted:You're all very kind. I am the best of who I am because of the love I've been graced to receive, no less from the love you all send out in this thread. I like how you post, it has a poetry to it But honestly I love all posters ITT regardless of prose quality. You're cool
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# ? Jul 2, 2017 23:04 |
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Love you too friend
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# ? Jul 2, 2017 23:10 |
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System Metternich posted:That would be a great magical realism/horror story ala Süskind's Perfume, I think Reminds me of the William Lane Craig debate recently posted to the Unbelievable podcast where the atheist debater who said that he genuinely looked for God was asked where he looked for God and he answered (iirc) in the theological/apologetic arguments or something to that effect. That's a good place for finding an argument or a debate, but not a great place for finding God. https://www.premierchristianradio.c...-vs-Daniel-Came Trigger warning: slightly cringeworthy section where the Holocaust is brought up and WLC seems to imply that Israel's existence "justifies" the holocaust.
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# ? Jul 3, 2017 03:43 |
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HopperUK posted:Holy poo poo yes, that sounds great. Engravings are the most underrated art form.
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# ? Jul 3, 2017 03:46 |
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CountFosco posted:Trigger warning: slightly cringeworthy section where the Holocaust is brought up and WLC seems to imply that Israel's existence "justifies" the holocaust. And this is why I steer far clear of the world of apologetics in general. Christian apologists, especially given their pretty heavy tilt toward right-wing politics and Christian Zionism, are for the most part blind, deaf, and dumb to the implications of a world-historical tragedy like the holocaust. They view it as nothing more than a problem of theodicy, and the implicit contention is always "if you just knew what I know, you'd understand that it's all okay." That response is neither theologically sound nor particularly Christian, and it arises out of theologies that instrumentalize Jews as nothing more than paving stones for the Messiah. Maybe this is too fideistic of me, but I don't particularly see the point in coming up with ever-more-complicated proofs for the existence of God in the first place. Nobody ever changed their life as the result of a logical demonstration.
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# ? Jul 3, 2017 14:53 |
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My priest actually preaches pretty frequently against Christian Zionism, explaining that the modern political state of Israel has no significance in Orthodox eschatology. He talked about this in his homily yesterday, in fact. With the 4th of July coming up, he talked specifically about nationalistic "us vs. them" or "God is on our side" or "God is on Israel's side" narratives. He used the genealogies in Genesis for Moab, Ishmael, and Esau, which are given between Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob's narratives, to show that even when one side is chosen, that doesn't mean God has necessarily rejected the other; he still makes nations out of the non-chosen descendants of the patriarchs, and they still have a place in his plan. He also related it to yesterday's reading, with Jesus and the Centurion, where Jesus praises the latter's faith above that of Israel itself.
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# ? Jul 3, 2017 17:17 |
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I just learned from D&D that this movie exists: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3398066/ from the one review present, not only do they basically write every character as a backwoods mormon, but they also give the wrong verse numbers for the one line of scripture in the movie. who was this movie meant for?
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# ? Jul 3, 2017 17:43 |
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Bel_Canto posted:Nobody ever changed their life as the result of a logical demonstration. I think you'll find that, logically, this doesn't hold up.
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# ? Jul 3, 2017 22:19 |
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HopperUK posted:Is that what allows the evil skellington to rise? The departure of Jesus? Ceciltron posted:Jesus is what keeps the Evil Skeletons Within at bay. Skeletons aren't all bad. Some of them live with Baroque monks, and some like to dance in German woodcuts. When judgement day comes, all the good skeletons will rise up and live in the Kingdom of Heaven.
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# ? Jul 3, 2017 22:35 |
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Bel_Canto posted:And this is why I steer far clear of the world of apologetics in general. Christian apologists, especially given their pretty heavy tilt toward right-wing politics and Christian Zionism, are for the most part blind, deaf, and dumb to the implications of a world-historical tragedy like the holocaust. They view it as nothing more than a problem of theodicy, and the implicit contention is always "if you just knew what I know, you'd understand that it's all okay." That response is neither theologically sound nor particularly Christian, and it arises out of theologies that instrumentalize Jews as nothing more than paving stones for the Messiah. Maybe this is too fideistic of me, but I don't particularly see the point in coming up with ever-more-complicated proofs for the existence of God in the first place. Nobody ever changed their life as the result of a logical demonstration. I mean, I agree, but only sort of. It's weird for me to hear someone say "it's nothing more than a problem of theodicy" because, like, that seems incredibly important once you accept the premises? There's no getting away from the implicit contention that you mention, even if you might be able to dress it up in a less personally hubristic way; you either accept the conclusions of theodicy or you don't.
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# ? Jul 3, 2017 22:57 |
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Fair; it's true that I view theodicy as an ultimately futile and bankrupt intellectual enterprise. But what I mean is that to them it's fundamentally an intellectual question, rather than one of the conditioning events of modernity whose consequences remain in the lives of countless people, especially Jews.
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# ? Jul 3, 2017 23:43 |
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I think that the moral of the story is that whether one is a millenarian trying to explain the Shoah, a Marxist defending Budapest '56, or an accelerationist making the case for why Trump is actually a good thing, asserting a strong historical teleology is an assured path towards making one's self look like a complete rear end.
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# ? Jul 4, 2017 05:10 |
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Numerical Anxiety posted:I think that the moral of the story is that whether one is a millenarian trying to explain the Shoah, a Marxist defending Budapest '56, or an accelerationist making the case for why Trump is actually a good thing, asserting a strong historical teleology is an assured path towards making one's self look like a complete rear end. Amen!
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# ? Jul 4, 2017 15:35 |
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Going to a Confirmation School Camp tomorrow. Don't know yet if there's anything there worth posting this time but I felt like telling that. Ten days teaching teens about the faith they're been babtized to. It's such an adventure and I'm so thankful that an institution like this is so popular. We had a meeting between the priest, myself and another camp worker as well as the bunch of slightly older teens that will work as group leaders today and I'm pretty hyped up.
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# ? Jul 4, 2017 21:48 |
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Numerical Anxiety posted:I think that the moral of the story is that whether one is a millenarian trying to explain the Shoah, a Marxist defending Budapest '56, or an accelerationist making the case for why Trump is actually a good thing, asserting a strong historical teleology is an assured path towards making one's self look like a complete rear end. Does the singularity fall under this though?
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# ? Jul 4, 2017 23:06 |
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I don't know the Singularity narrative all that well, but I suspect that their apocalypse isn't bound to a historical teleology. They think that the singularity is going to end history as we know it, but not that all of history is a process that aims towards the creation of a superintellegent artificial intelligence, right?
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# ? Jul 5, 2017 00:47 |
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Probably depends on what you think about Roko's Basilisk.
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# ? Jul 5, 2017 01:33 |
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That's right, forgot about that one. The Singularity stuff honestly reads like it was put together by some eager soul who really wanted to do a theology but who couldn't afford the licensing rights for the Bible; his eagerness not thusly quashed, he found a path forward basing it instead on rejected pitches for Doctor Who novels.
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# ? Jul 5, 2017 03:01 |
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So it's like AM torturing you because you didn't make it sooner.
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# ? Jul 5, 2017 05:18 |
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You mean a hangover?
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# ? Jul 5, 2017 06:02 |
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Numerical Anxiety posted:You mean a hangover? AM
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# ? Jul 5, 2017 06:50 |
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I just discovered the BCP. Seriously, why doesn't everyone have something like this? It is so insanely rad.
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# ? Jul 7, 2017 04:22 |
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cerror posted:I just discovered the BCP. Seriously, why doesn't everyone have something like this? It is so insanely rad. You mean “The Book of Common Prayer and Administration of the Sacraments and other Rites and Ceremonies of the Church according to the use of the Church of England together with the Psalter or Psalms of David pointed as they are to be sung or said in churches; and the form and manner of making, ordaining, and consecrating of bishops, priests, and deacons“? I've never actually read it, but it must be nice to have everything together in one book - we Catholics have the Missal, the Breviary, the Pontificale, the Graduale, the Antiphonale, the Benedictionale and probably a bunch of others I forgot.
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# ? Jul 7, 2017 07:15 |
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Cross-posting from the political maps thread over in D&D:Patter Song posted:
I think I gotta start reading the Talmud
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# ? Jul 7, 2017 09:26 |
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cerror posted:I just discovered the BCP. Seriously, why doesn't everyone have something like this? It is so insanely rad. It's the best!
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# ? Jul 7, 2017 19:37 |
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Crossposting.
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# ? Jul 7, 2017 21:51 |
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Semi-related: https://twitter.com/dvoeverie/status/883466090399059968
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# ? Jul 8, 2017 02:11 |
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Oof, right in the bloody innards.
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# ? Jul 8, 2017 02:40 |
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WSJ is some quality content and is super nice in DMs too. A++ would continue to follow.
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# ? Jul 8, 2017 05:48 |
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Bel_Canto posted:WSJ is some quality content and is super nice in DMs too. A++ would continue to follow. Having missed the name in the Twitter quote I will just say I thought for a moment you'd lost your mind
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# ? Jul 8, 2017 12:17 |
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The Los Angeles Diocese of the Episcopal Church will be Facebook live streaming the consecration of their new Bishop today at 1:30 PST (about 1.5 hours from this posting). https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1592796427405208&id=143927335625465
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# ? Jul 8, 2017 19:54 |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Um2mm0GFaO4
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# ? Jul 8, 2017 19:57 |
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Got baptized today And they let my kid ring the church bell!
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Public Serpent posted:Got baptized today Congratulations! Many blessed years!
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