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Gologle posted:Why is FFV canon to the world of FFXIV The events of FFV are a fairy tale within the world of FFXIV. Omega, the chief antagonist of this raid, creates simulacrums of the enemies from this story in order to test your strength, with the intention of observing the fights and making itself stronger through its observations. A Great Big Bee! fucked around with this message at 16:22 on Jul 4, 2017 |
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In the same vein, the absolute madmen integrated the Desert of the Shifting Sands into a fight as a game mechanic. XIV is well on its way into the position of the least worst Final Fantasy game.
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Jul 4, 2017 16:39
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Shame it's an MMO and thus eternally terrible
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Gologle posted:Why is FFV canon to the world of FFXIV FF5 is canon to all the games in the series, fool
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hell, ff12 is good
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So if FF5 is semi-canon in FF14's universe, does the same apply for The After Years?
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Mega64 posted:So if FF5 is semi-canon in FF14's universe, does the same apply for The After Years? Notably, there hasn't been very much related to FF4 in FF14. I'm willing to bet that they're holding off on at least some of it for a trip to the moon (which has been hinted at), or to have the four fiends as primals.
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FF14 Omega Raid Spoiler: It's actually a far greater reference to the Chocobo's Dungeon games than it is to FF5. Deltascape v3.0 drives this home with the grid-based attacks of Halicarnassus and the movement puzzle in the middle of the fight. Spoilery video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XC_C-F5_Ijs&t=278s Varance fucked around with this message at 17:35 on Jul 4, 2017 |
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Jul 4, 2017 17:22
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While there's definitely some Chocobo's Dungeon in there with Alpha being the most obvious thing, the Deltascape is absolutely an FF5 dungeon first and foremost and as mentioned the movement puzzle originates from FF5 as well.
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Also here are the boss themes for anyone curious. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7o--E1ymUs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65QbQEKIL88
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I wish they would make another Chocobo's Dungeon still need to play the one on the Wii.
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Kanfy posted:While there's definitely some Chocobo's Dungeon in there with Alpha being the most obvious thing, the Deltascape is absolutely an FF5 dungeon first and foremost and as mentioned the movement puzzle originates from FF5 as well. In specific, this content pulls heavy from Chocobo's Dungeon 2, which features Omega, Jessie, Biggs, Wedge and Cid. Midgardsormr is filling in for the role that Bahamut had in the game. I wouldn't be surprised if Glass Goth is Omega's "ultimate creation," and I half expect Shirma (Chocobo's WHM buddy) to pop up eventually. It's made pretty clear in the story content that this is it for the FF5 content and that the next raid in the series will be visiting another game in the series. If they stick with games that have Chocobo's Dungeon and Omega in common, the next scape should be either FF4, FF10, FF11 or FF13-themed (Chocobo's Dungeon always pulls heavily from 4 and 5, with a lot of 10 and 11 in the newer installments, but there hasn't been a new Chocobo's Dungeon game in a long time). FF12 content is probably reserved for the Return to Ivalice raids. Can't wait to here Soken's take on this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRTsIK8eiks Varance fucked around with this message at 19:27 on Jul 4, 2017 |
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Mega64 posted:So if FF5 is semi-canon in FF14's universe, does the same apply for The After Years? So no.
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Sakurazuka posted:Shame it's an MMO and thus eternally terrible Finally somebody talking sense!
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Electric Phantasm posted:I wish they would make another Chocobo's Dungeon still need to play the one on the Wii. God, me too. It'd make me so happy 
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Gologle posted:Why is FFV canon to the world of FFXIV Why is FF1 canon to the world of FF9 They can do whatever they want its a crazy time travelling magic science multiverse who cares
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I'm pretty sure either Dissidia or Record Keeper establishes that each game is its own separate universe, but leaks can happen in the form of, for example, one game's story being a fable in another game's world. FFXIV actually explores that a bit as well, IIRC there's a bunch of parallel/alternate reality stuff going on, which is how they've brought in stuff like the entire Crystal Tower/World of Darkness stuff, etc.
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Gologle posted:Why is FFV canon to the world of FFXIV "The Void" can sum up any weird inter final fantasy poo poo happening in FFXIV. The way the game explains it is that there are other worlds/dimensions that are surrounded by void in the FFXIV universe and that things can leak out of it from them.
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Sakurazuka posted:I remember the first time I played FF 3/6 and thought that all the stuff about a war in the intro happened in an earlier game. i'm playing ff3/6 right now but i've never actually played it inebriated so my rule is that i have to be really fuckin blazed when i'm playing it. it's almost as good as playing it for the first time, but also makes me wonder what it would've been like if i'd gotten it instead of ff2 as a kid. also it makes me want to see a remake, except, like, static pre-rendered watercolor saga frontier 2-style environments and sprites to match. and the cutscenes would be animated like how they did war of the lions, except it'd be in that grungy 80s style, where some animes were trying to look a little more western/bakshi, i think that would capture the amano concept art pretty well
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Sakurazuka posted:I remember the first time I played FF 3/6 and thought that all the stuff about a war in the intro happened in an earlier game. I remember gaming magazines when FF8 info trickled out in Japanese had hilariously inaccurate information like "Squall is possibly the son of Tifa and Cloud" and the stuff about SEEDs was thought of as a Jenova reference 90s gaming magazines were less accurate than like a modern message board post
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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:I remember gaming magazines when FF8 info trickled out in Japanese had hilariously inaccurate information like "Squall is possibly the son of Tifa and Cloud" and the stuff about SEEDs was thought of as a Jenova reference I'm pretty sure they just guessed because they had nothing to write about back then. I remember one mag said that Auron was a samurai with a broken arm in the previews to FFX.
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I did it I finally dodged 200 lightning bolts Edit: happy 1987 page, the year FF1 came out.
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seiferguy posted:I did it You're free now.
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seiferguy posted:I did it Welcome to the emptiness. I think that was the moment when I felt like the game beat me.
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bloodychill posted:Welcome to the emptiness. I think that was the moment when I felt like the game beat me. i felt like ffx beat me when i realized i wasn't going to grind 64 +4 luck node spheres just to fight shinryu so i could grind a different type of sphere
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I just played through the story and didn't care about any of that poo poo
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look man i was fifteen
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I didn't even play through the story the first time, I used my friends overpowered end of the game group, had him explain the plot, then beat the final boss and watched the end cutscene since YouTube didn't exist.
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I got the three legendary weapons that had kind of reasonable requirements, and I beat Omega Weapon, and I grinded for a little bit just for the sake of Numbers Go Up, and that was good.
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The difficulty jump from Omega Weapon's to Penance/Dark Aeons was insane.
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I platted FFX HD a few months ago because I am dumb, as well as beat the Goers in the tourney because I was already in hatefuck the minigames mode so why not. First file I got both Lulu and Wakka's Celestials on so that was neat I guess. I Zanmato'd Nemesis and Penance, no regrets.
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Pay2Win
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Kelp Me! posted:I'm pretty sure either Dissidia or Record Keeper establishes that each game is its own separate universe, but leaks can happen in the form of, for example, one game's story being a fable in another game's world. FFXIV actually explores that a bit as well, IIRC there's a bunch of parallel/alternate reality stuff going on, which is how they've brought in stuff like the entire Crystal Tower/World of Darkness stuff, etc. In FFXIV CT/WoD is part of the in-game history rather than parallel universe shenanigans.
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How do you handle Dark Yojimbo if you can't zanmato him.
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Golden Goat posted:How do you handle Dark Yojimbo if you can't zanmato him. In my experience you stop playing and never go back. I have a PS2 save file on a memory card somewhere with like 140 hours on it and everything except Dark Yojimbo, Dark Anima and Penance done.
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THE AWESOME GHOST posted:I remember gaming magazines when FF8 info trickled out in Japanese had hilariously inaccurate information like "Squall is possibly the son of Tifa and Cloud" and the stuff about SEEDs was thought of as a Jenova reference I remember reading that article! It said Zell IIRC, which makes a little more sense (but not really). I recall being incredibly disappointed when the game released and clearly had no ties to the 7 story, at least for a couple years before I learned to accept it on its own terms.
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I remember them seeing moombas and going: "REDXIII WALKS NOW GUYS!"
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Die Sexmonster! posted:I remember reading that article! It said Zell IIRC, which makes a little more sense (but not really). I recall being incredibly disappointed when the game released and clearly had no ties to the 7 story, at least for a couple years before I learned to accept it on its own terms. Do you have any idea which magazine it was? I kind of want to see it again and see how much of it was just pure made up bullshit
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Now this is some good marketing right here  https://twitter.com/FinalFantasy/status/882557600352657409
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The FFX ultimate weapon unlocks were the most unfun grind in the series for me, especially the lightning dodging one.
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