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I like the change too. My guild having a more relatively chill raid schedule allows me to also raid with goons on the side and I enjoy that quite a bit.
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Ad by Khad posted:Wow guilds as a whole raid far less than they used to. When I was a serious raider 5ish years ago, our schedule of 3 days a week, 4 hours a night was considered light for being ranked double digits in the US. Nowadays it's above average. Two nights a week, 3 hours, 4 tops is about my limit. Adding days annoys me because it strips away what I can do during the week that are non MMO related. Adding hours frustrates me because you start to lose your edge around the 2.5 hour mark.
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What has become a lot more common though, with the game-wide reduction in time spent raiding, is raiding with multiple guilds. Right now I do 5 days 3 hours a week and the only way to actually do that consistently in wow these days is to have more than one guild. I have a lot of fun with this current situation though and I enjoy it a lot more than the way raiding was 3 or 5 or 10 or 15 years ago. My weekend goon guild is grateful as gently caress to have me.
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Invective disbanded lol
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Babe Magnet posted:Invective disbanded lol guess they werent hardcore enough cup cake
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Babe Magnet posted:Invective disbanded lol Who?
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CoffeeBooze posted:Who? Holyshoot posted:Hi there,
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How embarrassing. Talking big, aiming for world firsts and not even making top 50. Had to disband to avoid the shame.
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SettingSun posted:How embarrassing. Talking big, aiming for world firsts and not even making top 50. Had to disband to avoid the shame. nah, more like 5-6 of their members went to a better guild that actually gets top world kills. And others have apped to other guilds. So "good luck" rebuilding a stable of people who want to day raid when you have proven nothing beyond being good at a dead gay game.
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Was it even possible? Bliz drops about two tiers a year right? I don't think most Americans get four weeks of vacation a year, much less the option to take them back to back. I know I don't.
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StuG Jeebus posted:Was it even possible? Bliz drops about two tiers a year right? I don't think most Americans get four weeks of vacation a year, much less the option to take them back to back. I know I don't. College students Also it depends mostly on what your job is, so it varies. There's definitely enough people in those margins not on the average to do that kind of schedule, but the real problem is who the gently caress would want to? Taking a week off for a new expansion might be a thing, but two weeks just for a raid tier?
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LITERALLY MY FETISH posted:College students it's even worse now. These people on top of raiding 60 hours a week for 2 weeks are also keeping 4-6 alts near raid ready for class stacking. So gone are the days of "we just hammered this boss for a week or two straight now we get to raid 2 hours a week for the next 6 months". Now its "ok we just played a poo poo load for two weeks. Time to keep up that crazy play time to make sure my alts are geared as well". I'd say world first raiders prior to the lock out change probably raided/played less then your avg 20 hour a week guild. But now that is definitely not the case with all the alts and mythic+ they have to run during their down time.
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Rhymenoserous posted:That's loving insane. On my comment about redoing the fight perfectly until the RNG ticks every box for you, here is the report of Method getting the world first on the second to last boss of this tier 
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I wondering how many screaming fits and meltdown they had during those 453 attempts.
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A lot of the top WoW raiding guilds have quit or raid casually now since Legion's launch. It's just become to much now to go for World 1st. Also there's probably more activity here than in Wildstar.
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Probably half the progression guilds in the race at the start of legion have disbanded by now. Eventually there probably will only be one per region being method, exorsus, limit and afkr because by now finding people with the depth of knowledge of the game, play skill and time is almost impossible without cannibalising another progression guild. That this wildstar guild felt that Limit only raiding 1 day per week was a weakness that meant they would be better underscores just how few people really are good enough and broke brained enough to do progression raiding. Limit are sitting in 3rd, wildstar guild disbanded.
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I remember reading about a day in the life of a bleeding edge raid member, and how he'd wake up at 5am or something to do the daily WoW chores, go to work, and then raid until like 1 or 2 in the morning. At the time, however, this was only for two or so weeks, at which point I guess his schedule started to resemble a normal human being's. I dunno how it's like now in the "off-season" or whatever, but artifacts definitely add a higher grind for alts. You can get the boost to the grind immediately as items exist for alts to do just that, but when you have loving 4-5 alts that's still quite the time commitment to keep them all relevant.
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CoffeeBooze posted:I wondering how many screaming fits and meltdown they had during those 453 attempts. They sound pretty chill in their kill videos.  Also this is how you keep people playing the hours method does lmao(not really) tldr is people felt officers were getting more then they deserved. 
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Pants Donkey posted:I remember reading about a day in the life of a bleeding edge raid member, and how he'd wake up at 5am or something to do the daily WoW chores, go to work, and then raid until like 1 or 2 in the morning. At the time, however, this was only for two or so weeks, at which point I guess his schedule started to resemble a normal human being's. I dunno how it's like now in the "off-season" or whatever, but artifacts definitely add a higher grind for alts. You can get the boost to the grind immediately as items exist for alts to do just that, but when you have loving 4-5 alts that's still quite the time commitment to keep them all relevant. It's probably play the game until 1-2 am doing chores for all the alts everyday you aren't raiding.
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Bear in mind something mentioned in that screengrab is 'boosting' or running people through raids and dungeons for real world money. Add that onto the list of things you are expected to do. Incidentally blizzard selectively punish people for doing it too so you may wake up one day with your account permabanned and need to regear all your raid chars.
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Byolante posted:Bear in mind something mentioned in that screengrab is 'boosting' or running people through raids and dungeons for real world money. Add that onto the list of things you are expected to do. Incidentally blizzard selectively punish people for doing it too so you may wake up one day with your account permabanned and need to regear all your raid chars. Why do they ban people for this? It's not like you can do anything with gold except spend cash on raid food or raid carries, in these silly modern mmos where everything binds on pickup?
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Probably because you can use WOW Tokens for your sub or for Bnet credit now.
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poo poo I didn't read that correctly it said real world money not gold, sorry. I can understand that.
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Babe Magnet posted:Invective disbanded lol Here's the GM of invective asking why the other guilds are poaching his members, lmao. He gets dunked on the longer he keeps pestering the other dude. "People from lesser guilds join better guilds to do the content they want to do" hahahaha https://www.twitch.tv/videos/156498346?t=18m37s Minera fucked around with this message at 14:58 on Jul 6, 2017 |
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Minrad posted:Here's the GM of invective asking why the other guilds are poaching his members, lmao. He gets dunked on the longer he keeps pestering the other dude. "People from lesser guilds join better guilds to do the content they want to do" hahahaha "You know what my guild is that were a meme and all that"
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I've always been a bit curious about this: Do these world first raiding guilds get paid? Where is the money coming from? Outside of boosting/PLing people, I suppose. It just seems a bit odd.
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Mayor McCheese posted:I've always been a bit curious about this: Do these world first raiding guilds get paid? Where is the money coming from? Outside of boosting/PLing people, I suppose. Method has esports/sponsorship. I am not sure about the rest.
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We should get in on that, get sponsors for goon guilds.
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Didnt the Eve guild's leadership get paid to plug some lovely zombie game at one point?
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Holyshoot posted:it's even worse now. These people on top of raiding 60 hours a week for 2 weeks are also keeping 4-6 alts near raid ready for class stacking. So gone are the days of "we just hammered this boss for a week or two straight now we get to raid 2 hours a week for the next 6 months". Now its "ok we just played a poo poo load for two weeks. Time to keep up that crazy play time to make sure my alts are geared as well". idk whether this is the case now but back in cataclysm some top-tier raider hung out in the blizzard subforum, and said getting alts geared wasn't a big thing. They'd raid 3 hours twice a week after the race was over, resulting in two full completions per week. Over the course of 6 months everybody gets the gear they need for all their alts. The point of farm night was to do the thing so you'd be ready for next tier & get everyone back to their real lives as efficiently as possible.
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Byolante posted:Method has esports/sponsorship. I am not sure about the rest. Hahaha, ah okay. It's dumber than I thought. God bless esports
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30.5 Days posted:idk whether this is the case now but back in cataclysm some top-tier raider hung out in the blizzard subforum, and said getting alts geared wasn't a big thing. They'd raid 3 hours twice a week after the race was over, resulting in two full completions per week. Over the course of 6 months everybody gets the gear they need for all their alts. The point of farm night was to do the thing so you'd be ready for next tier & get everyone back to their real lives as efficiently as possible. That used to be true. Unfortunately the content pipeline now is far better than it used to be and the PTR for the next raid tier goes up the week after mythic opens. As soon as you have mythic on farm you start spending days of your life on the ptr getting practice so when go time happens on the live servers you already are most of the way there.
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Since we were talking firefall earlier: http://www.red5studios.com/2017/07/firefall-closure-announcement No warning beforehand either. Apparently as recent as May they were working on a PS4 port.
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Pants Donkey posted:Since we were talking firefall earlier: http://www.red5studios.com/2017/07/firefall-closure-announcement May 2016 This is it. The final revamp.
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Nah, Im sure if the mobile version releases theyll be able to fit in at least a few more revamps.
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Mayor McCheese posted:I've always been a bit curious about this: Do these world first raiding guilds get paid? Where is the money coming from? Outside of boosting/PLing people, I suppose. I linked it on the past page. Methods payout for boosting got leaked and yea they do get paid but it's not worth what kind of hours they put in.
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