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The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > C-SPAM > [The Succ Zone] I unblocked you, again, to say this: You don't fucking know me.

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The Muppets On PCP: Nov 13, 2016; by Fluffdaddy

Shear Modulus posted:

hot take incoming: basically centrists saying "bernie is a racist" to justify their hating him is different in degree but not in kind from bill maher or other anti-muslim bigots saying the reason they hate muslims is because they think islam is misogynist

Frijolero posted:

hot take: centrists don't actually understand racism/institutional racism and they think having token minorities in positions of power means the system is working

these people are hillary cultists like the hillaryis44 people before them and don't have any deep-seated ideology or political beliefs outside of mi abuela

if the worst for them comes to pass and the party actually drifts leftward, they'll just become reactionary republicans or drop out of politics altogether

# ? Jul 5, 2017 17:08

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etalian: Mar 20, 2006

Frijolero posted:

hot take: centrists don't actually understand racism/institutional racism and they think having token minorities in positions of power means the system is working

Also bad dems want to trick minorities into taking a deal, rather than minorities being able to make breakthrough changes in their community.

Sort of similar to having Obama in office didn't lead to issues like police brutality or income inequality being addressed in any sort of meaningful way.

# ? Jul 5, 2017 17:08

SHY NUDIST GRRL: Feb 15, 2011; Communism will help more white people than anyone else. Any equal measures unfairly provide less to minority populations just because there's less of them. Democracy is truly the tyranny of the mob.

Shear Modulus posted:

it's the weirdest thing when hillary supporters accuse bernie of centering white working people in his presidential campaign when his opponent literally talked up her being backed by "hardworking americans, white americans" when she was running against obama

Also it was her general strategy

etalian posted:

I don't think Bond banged any grannies in the movie.

Maybe one of the books

# ? Jul 5, 2017 17:10

Frijolero: Jan 24, 2009; by Nyc_Tattoo

Didn't Bond help Bolivia re-nationalize the water or some poo poo??

Macron would do the exact opposite :lol:

:lol:

:lol:

# ? Jul 5, 2017 17:12

Darkman Fanpage: Jul 4, 2012

etalian posted:

Also bad dems want to trick minorities into taking a deal, rather than minorities being able to make breakthrough changes in their community.

Sort of similar to having Obama in office didn't lead to issues like police brutality or income inequality being addressed in any sort of meaningful way.

excuse me obama had a beer with that cop and the professor he arrested. police brutality solved.

# ? Jul 5, 2017 17:13

comedyblissoption: Mar 15, 2006

Frijolero posted:

Jesse Jackson would have won.

Let's run on his 1988 platform:

creating a Works Progress Administration-style program to rebuild America's infrastructure and provide jobs to all Americans,

reprioritizing the War on Drugs to focus less on minimum sentences for drug users (which he views as racially biased) and more on harsher punishments for money-laundering bankers and others who are part of the "supply" end of "supply and demand"

reversing Reaganomics-inspired tax cuts for the richest ten percent of Americans and using the money to finance social welfare programs

cutting the budget of the Department of Defense by as much as fifteen percent over the course of his administration

declaring Apartheid-era South Africa* to be a rogue nation

instituting an immediate nuclear freeze and beginning disarmament negotiations with the Soviet Union

giving reparations to descendants of black slaves

supporting family farmers by reviving many of Roosevelt's New Deal�era farm programs

creating a single-payer system of universal health care

ratifying the Equal Rights Amendment

increasing federal funding for lower-level public education and providing free community college to all

applying stricter enforcement of the Voting Rights Act and

supporting the formation of a Palestinian state.

* Replace South Africa with Israel

jesse jackson chose not to endorse anyone in the primary even though sanders had endorsed his bid :negative:

:negative:

# ? Jul 5, 2017 17:14

Zoran: Aug 19, 2008; I lost to you once, monster. I shall not lose again! Die now, that our future can live!

Frijolero posted:

Didn't Bond help Bolivia re-nationalize the water or some poo poo??

Macron would do the exact opposite

People complained that Quantum of Solace had a bad villain with a boring plan, but he's one of the few who did anything like real-life evil.

# ? Jul 5, 2017 17:15

comedyblissoption: Mar 15, 2006

Frijolero posted:

https://twitter.com/ryanlcooper/status/882553571467603968

You do this and you eliminate alot of Tea Party animus. Make public-facing government functions simpler and accessible and people won't be pissed off all the goddamn time.

but then H&R Block et al can't collect economic rents from an intentionally obtuse and complicated tax filing system

imagine all the jobs that would be lost when you get rid of unpopular parasites on the economy :qq:

:qq:

# ? Jul 5, 2017 17:15

Frijolero: Jan 24, 2009; by Nyc_Tattoo

comedyblissoption posted:

jesse jackson chose not to endorse anyone in the primary even though sanders had endorsed his bid

Would you go up against the ~~Underwoods~~ Clintons?

Zoran posted:

People complained that Quantum of Solace had a bad villain with a boring plan, but he's one of the few who did anything like real-life evil.

It was legit as hell and has educated a lot of people.

# ? Jul 5, 2017 17:19

The Muppets On PCP: Nov 13, 2016; by Fluffdaddy

of all the people to cultivate that level of blind devotion hillary is the most baffling to me

like she wasn't an inspirational figure like obama, nor did she have her husband's innate ability to read a room nor his populist appeal

the clinton patronage system is a real thing, but that was more tied to bill than her. and none of these clods would ever in a million years come within sniffing range of them; they're just regular assholes like the rest of us

and to still desperately cling to her as some sort of grand leader of the anti-trump resistance when she pretty much hosed off immediately after the election back to her club of wealthy donor friends where she's clearly much more in her element. it genuinely beggars belief

# ? Jul 5, 2017 17:20

comedyblissoption: Mar 15, 2006

The Muppets On PCP posted:

of all the people to cultivate that level of blind devotion hillary is the most baffling to me

like she wasn't an inspirational figure like obama, nor did she have her husband's innate ability to read a room nor his populist appeal

the clinton patronage system is a real thing, but that was more tied to bill than her. and none of these clods would ever in a million years come within sniffing range of them; they're just regular assholes like the rest of us

and to still desperately cling to her as some sort of grand leader of the anti-trump resistance when she pretty much hosed off immediately after the election back to her club of wealthy donor friends where she's clearly much more in her element. it genuinely beggars belief

i rationalize it as either people desperate to see a woman in the oval office or as decorum-huffing West Wing fans

# ? Jul 5, 2017 17:25

Zoran: Aug 19, 2008; I lost to you once, monster. I shall not lose again! Die now, that our future can live!

The Muppets On PCP posted:

of all the people to cultivate that level of blind devotion hillary is the most baffling to me

like she wasn't an inspirational figure like obama, nor did she have her husband's innate ability to read a room nor his populist appeal

the clinton patronage system is a real thing, but that was more tied to bill than her. and none of these clods would ever in a million years come within sniffing range of them; they're just regular assholes like the rest of us

and to still desperately cling to her as some sort of grand leader of the anti-trump resistance when she pretty much hosed off immediately after the election back to her club of wealthy donor friends where she's clearly much more in her element. it genuinely beggars belief

Hillary is not gifted at politicking with the public, but she did successfully cultivate an image as the only viable female presidential candidate for basically two whole generations. I don't resent people for being enthusiastic about the chance to finally make a woman president. Unfortunately that meant a lot of people projected all their own ideas about how great a woman president would be onto her, irrespective of her actual actions and beliefs. Kind of like what happened with Obama, where a whole lot of people ignored his actual public statements in order to imagine him as a transformative figure. (I was guilty of this, but in my defense I was 15 during his first run.)

# ? Jul 5, 2017 17:27

loquacius: Oct 21, 2008

comedyblissoption posted:

jesse jackson chose not to endorse anyone in the primary even though sanders had endorsed his bid

Jesse Jackson has every right to be completely alienated from and cynical about American politics by this point in his life

# ? Jul 5, 2017 17:27

loquacius: Oct 21, 2008

Zoran posted:

Hillary is not gifted at politicking with the public, but she did successfully cultivate an image as the only viable female presidential candidate for basically two whole generations. I don't resent people for being enthusiastic about the chance to finally make a woman president. Unfortunately that meant a lot of people projected all their own ideas about how great a woman president would be onto her, irrespective of her actual actions and beliefs. Kind of like what happened with Obama, where a whole lot of people ignored his actual public statements in order to imagine him as a transformative figure. (I was guilty of this, but in my defense I was 15 during his first run.)

The idea that a lot of Hillary primary voters liked her mainly because they were so relieved to finally have a woman running for president with the right letter next to her name is one of those things you Weren't Allowed To Say at the time, but it was anecdotally true for every one of them I knew who was under 35

(the over-35s were operating on a strict anti-kids-today agenda)

But really the main thing to glean from this is that the severe dearth of women candidates fielded by the Democratic Party is a major flaw that needs to be addressed. It's hosed-up that the GOP keeps throwing Palins and Bachmanns and Fiorinas at us and the best we can manage is Hillary followed by Hillary Again

# ? Jul 5, 2017 17:31

Frijolero: Jan 24, 2009; by Nyc_Tattoo

The Muppets On PCP posted:

of all the people to cultivate that level of blind devotion hillary is the most baffling to me

like she wasn't an inspirational figure like obama, nor did she have her husband's innate ability to read a room nor his populist appeal

the clinton patronage system is a real thing, but that was more tied to bill than her. and none of these clods would ever in a million years come within sniffing range of them; they're just regular assholes like the rest of us

and to still desperately cling to her as some sort of grand leader of the anti-trump resistance when she pretty much hosed off immediately after the election back to her club of wealthy donor friends where she's clearly much more in her element. it genuinely beggars belief

1) Hillary is a political/cultural juggernaut with an army of paid and volunteer PR people who make her look good.
2) Older people who like her remember fightin' Hillary from the 90s.
3) Younger people who like her remember Obama, don't know/care about her terrible Sec. of State policies.
4) She's rich, white, powerful, what's not to like for people who worship meritocracy?

# ? Jul 5, 2017 17:31

fits my needs: Jan 1, 2011; Grimey Drawer

"the republican platform is mostly tax cuts for the rich, not multi-trillion dollar bags of money floating from the sky to forgive debts for dumb white ladies who went to notre dame

one of these has slightly better optics than the other

not to mention, everyone is familiar with the sting of taxation. the bottom two thirds has no idea what it's like to have to skip avacado toast one sunday in order to make a minimum payment on their private school debt"

# ? Jul 5, 2017 17:36

WhiskeyJuvenile: Feb 15, 2002; by Nyc_Tattoo

https://twitter.com/GOP/status/882621153193406465

https://twitter.com/RubenGallego/status/882635548438839300

# ? Jul 5, 2017 17:42

Shear Modulus: Jun 9, 2010

hillary absolutely became a sympathetic figure in the 90s because she was a nonstop target of a mountain of sexist bullshit from limbaugh and a bunch of the other worst people in the country.

i actually had a positive view of her mostly because of that up until the 2008 primary when she went extremely racist against obama

# ? Jul 5, 2017 17:42

loquacius: Oct 21, 2008

WhiskeyJuvenile posted:

https://twitter.com/GOP/status/882621153193406465

:ironicat:

:ironicat:

:ironicat:

growing_ironicat.gif

especially since Bernie has been describing his plan nonstop for two years

# ? Jul 5, 2017 17:44

The Nastier Nate: May 22, 2005; All aboard the corona bus!

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WhiskeyJuvenile posted:

https://twitter.com/businessinsider/status/882606090059382787

File photo: Presidential candidate Mark Zuckerberg awaiting praise from The Suck Zone

# ? Jul 5, 2017 17:46

Zerg Mans: Oct 19, 2006; Can't post for 3 hours!

Frijolero posted:

hot take: centrists don't actually understand racism/institutional racism and they think having token minorities in positions of power means the system is working

Now here's a picture of Killer Mike

# ? Jul 5, 2017 17:46

WhiskeyJuvenile: Feb 15, 2002; by Nyc_Tattoo

zegermans posted:

Now here's a picture of Killer Mike

https://twitter.com/KillerMike/status/800061348017217537

https://twitter.com/cnn/status/826630451125174273?lang=en

:thunk:

:thunk:

# ? Jul 5, 2017 17:48

Frijolero: Jan 24, 2009; by Nyc_Tattoo

zegermans posted:

Now here's a picture of Killer Mike

# ? Jul 5, 2017 17:52

anime was right: Jun 27, 2008; death is certain
keep yr cool

Shear Modulus posted:

hillary absolutely became a sympathetic figure in the 90s because she was a nonstop target of a mountain of sexist bullshit from limbaugh and a bunch of the other worst people in the country.

i actually had a positive view of her mostly because of that up until the 2008 primary when she went extremely racist against obama

ya basically. i think republican hate machine against her was super disgusting and tbh i think part of that is what turned her into the guarded robot she is today which is kinda sad.

# ? Jul 5, 2017 17:53

Oh Snapple!: Dec 27, 2005

loquacius posted:

But really the main thing to glean from this is that the severe dearth of women candidates fielded by the Democratic Party is a major flaw that needs to be addressed. It's hosed-up that the GOP keeps throwing Palins and Bachmanns and Fiorinas at us and the best we can manage is Hillary followed by Hillary Again

I'd imagine Hillary herself had something to do with this.

# ? Jul 5, 2017 17:54

Venom Snake: Feb 19, 2014; by Nyc_Tattoo

Just popping in to say Zuck's continued pushing of UBI has a lot of party people in meltdown mode because a loving tech goonlord is to the left of them lmao

# ? Jul 5, 2017 17:54

etalian: Mar 20, 2006

Venom Snake posted:

Just popping in to say Zuck's continued pushing of UBI has a lot of party people in meltdown mode because a loving tech goonlord is to the left of them lmao

well with things becoming even more automated in the 10-15 years you pretty need UBI and most of the country will end up on the unemployment road.

Jobs like truck driver will pretty much be toast 15 years from now.

# ? Jul 5, 2017 17:56

Al!: Apr 2, 2010

Venom Snake posted:

Just popping in to say Zuck's continued pushing of UBI has a lot of party people in meltdown mode because a loving tech goonlord is to the left of them lmao

so the party is already preparing for a zuck run huh

# ? Jul 5, 2017 17:57

The Muppets On PCP: Nov 13, 2016; by Fluffdaddy

Shear Modulus posted:

hillary absolutely became a sympathetic figure in the 90s because she was a nonstop target of a mountain of sexist bullshit from limbaugh and a bunch of the other worst people in the country.

i actually had a positive view of her mostly because of that up until the 2008 primary when she went extremely racist against obama

the funny thing there is her public favorability declined pretty rapidly in the wake of the lewinksy scandal

# ? Jul 5, 2017 17:57

fits my needs: Jan 1, 2011; Grimey Drawer

zegermans posted:

Now here's a picture of Killer Mike

Well I feel like the Bernie Bro demographic and Killer Mike listeners overlap a lot. Killer Mike didn't help Bernie get the votes of old black ladies for whatever reason, probably racism.

# ? Jul 5, 2017 17:58

Condiv: May 7, 2008; Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
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Venom Snake posted:

Just popping in to say Zuck's continued pushing of UBI has a lot of party people in meltdown mode because a loving tech goonlord is to the left of them lmao

party people probably should take a good look and realize how badly they're being left behind by their own base and the nation

# ? Jul 5, 2017 17:58

Al!: Apr 2, 2010

The Muppets On PCP posted:

the funny thing there is her public favorability declined pretty rapidly in the wake of the lewinksy scandal

nobody likes a cuck i guess

# ? Jul 5, 2017 17:58

etalian: Mar 20, 2006

The Muppets On PCP posted:

the funny thing there is her public favorability declined pretty rapidly in the wake of the lewinksy scandal

Not to mention how she went after the women who accused Bill of sexual harassment as loony tunes and complete liars.

# ? Jul 5, 2017 17:59

comedyblissoption: Mar 15, 2006

imagine a world where he gets single payer passed and is heralded in history as the second FDR

ZuckCare

# ? Jul 5, 2017 18:00

Oh Snapple!: Dec 27, 2005

The Muppets On PCP posted:

the funny thing there is her public favorability declined pretty rapidly in the wake of the lewinksy scandal

didn't bill's increase lol

# ? Jul 5, 2017 18:02

The Muppets On PCP: Nov 13, 2016; by Fluffdaddy

Al! posted:

nobody likes a cuck i guess

a lot of people soured on her for not ditching bill for obvious political reasons

# ? Jul 5, 2017 18:02

GalacticAcid: Apr 8, 2013; NEW YORK VALUES

Was just asking a friend for the lowdown on Gallego. I had my eye on him a couple years ago to see how he'd turn out, seems like a potential national figure for the Dems.

# ? Jul 5, 2017 18:03

GalacticAcid: Apr 8, 2013; NEW YORK VALUES

His rhetoric recently has been good but I don't have a good sense of his track record.

# ? Jul 5, 2017 18:04

Zerg Mans: Oct 19, 2006; Can't post for 3 hours!

Shear Modulus posted:

hillary absolutely became a sympathetic figure in the 90s because she was a nonstop target of a mountain of sexist bullshit from limbaugh and a bunch of the other worst people in the country.

i actually had a positive view of her mostly because of that up until the 2008 primary when she went extremely racist against obama

I didn't believe the right wing smears until it suited me to.

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The Muppets On PCP: Nov 13, 2016; by Fluffdaddy

Oh Snapple! posted:

didn't bill's increase lol

only right near the end after the election

# ? Jul 5, 2017 18:05

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