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Prester Jane posted:This is going to be a story that grows and grows over time. It feeds perfectly into the persecution complex of Trump supporters while at the same time discrediting one of the main sources covering the treason/crimes that Trump has committed. This story isn't going away anytime soon and I expect to see noticeable escalation in terms of (implied) threats of violence coming out of this situation- directed first at CNN and then broadening out to the rest of the media over a short period of time (couple weeks at most) No one who gets their news from CNN is buying into the alt-right line of attack. That is something that has gotten lost in this whole "Trump is trying to discredit the media" narrative that has cropped up. Everything Trump supporters believed about CNN and the media now is something they believed before he even ran for president - heck that is why he got elected. While I do expect threats against the media to rise, it could also have the effect of creating something of a siege-mentality within media organizations where they are emboldened to push back. If anything, CNN have been lagging in the ratings because they have people like Jeffery Lord, Kayleigh McEneny, and Jack Kingston sitting on panels from 7-11pm every night, allowing C-listers like Chris Hayes to beat Anderson Cooper in the ratings. CNN being motivated to take the fight to Trump and the rest of the alt-right is great business for them, and at the end of the day, they probably reach more eyeballs than any other news organization since they are the default channel anywhere that has a TV and is not a sports bar.
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Jul 5, 2017 17:28
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sitchensis posted:Oh goody I can't wait to see what will happen when a bunch of basement dwelling racist misogynists with a persecution complex feel like they are being persecuted by the mainstream media. Just be glad it isn't Harry Potter
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Jul 5, 2017 17:30
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Jul 5, 2017 17:36
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TyrantWD posted:they probably reach more eyeballs than any other news organization since they are the default channel anywhere that has a TV and is not a sports bar. This reminds me that CNN was the news channel in my work break room, but at some point some point some upper management guy must have felt it should be Fox News instead. Now I get to listen to that insanity for a few minutes every day
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Jul 5, 2017 17:39
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aware of dog posted:Oh of course. So Russian psyops has figured out how to weaponize our native high-compaction Narrativists in the US and that is uh.......really not good for us in the long run.
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Jul 5, 2017 17:42
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Prester Jane posted:So Russian psyops has figured out how to weaponize our native high-compaction Narrativists in the US and that is uh.......really not good for us in the long run. Before you know it they will be spraying aerosol oogly-boogly's too! That really won't be good.
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Jul 5, 2017 17:44
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Chilichimp posted:This is also backlash from the "White House totally loving blackmailed Joe Scarborough and Mika Brezinski" narrative that bounced around a bit last week. (Jared Kushner should be awaiting his arraignment right now, imo). Eh, Ken Bone's secret was that he has a thing for pregnant women. That's just a harmless fetish. HanAssholeSolo's thing is that he's a racist, anti-semitic troll who cheers when cops brutalize black people and believes Jews control the media.
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Jul 5, 2017 17:50
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Prester Jane posted:So Russian psyops has figured out how to weaponize our native high-compaction Narrativists in the US and that is uh.......really not good for us in the long run. RT taking a few minutes out of the day to interview some Reddit moderator is uh, not exactly weaponizing anything. This CNN thing will blow over just like every other manufactured outrage that the rabid internet alt-right gets going.
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Jul 5, 2017 17:52
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It's been over a month and half since Mueller was appointed, and Trump still isn't serving a double-lifetime sentence in a maximum security prison. What is taking so long, Mr. Mueller?!
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Jul 5, 2017 17:57
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:RT taking a few minutes out of the day to interview some Reddit moderator is uh, not exactly weaponizing anything. If anything, this could tighten the relationship between Russian and the GOP since both sides seem to rush to the others defense. Again, it requires the right framing though.
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Jul 5, 2017 17:58
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:RT taking a few minutes out of the day to interview some Reddit moderator is uh, not exactly weaponizing anything. A Russian propaganda outfit building a relationship with a hive of radicalized supporters- in furtherance of a Narrative that discredits a media organization that is exposing the infiltration of Russia into US politics- falls well within what I would consider "weaponizing". And while The_Donald is not necessarily the mainstream of Trump supporters, they do have a substantial amount of influence on where the Overton window of acceptable opinions among Trump supporters winds up. By influencing The_Donald, you can shift the Overton window for an outsized swath of Trump supporters well beyond just the alt-right. Edit: Hastings posted:If anything, this could tighten the relationship between Russian and the GOP since both sides seem to rush to the others defense. Again, it requires the right framing though. This would be in furtherance of Russia's agenda though: Russia wants useful idiots flocking to its defense while it muddies the waters around its interference in our government as much as possible. Fueling an anti-MSM narrative by appealing directly to a hive of supporters who are also prolific social media users is right in line what one would expect Russia to do in this situation. Prester Jane fucked around with this message at 18:04 on Jul 5, 2017 |
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Pakled posted:Eh, Ken Bone's secret was that he has a thing for pregnant women. That's just a harmless fetish. HanAssholeSolo's thing is that he's a racist, anti-semitic troll who cheers when cops brutalize black people and believes Jews control the media. I'm just saying, if you're a weirdo on the internet, the anonymity of it won't hide you forever.
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Jul 5, 2017 18:06
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Chilichimp posted:I'm just saying, if you're a weirdo on the internet, the anonymity of it won't hide you forever. Bring it on, I'm not ashamed of my Finn/Poe Dameron OTP fan fiction 
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Jul 5, 2017 18:10
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Prester Jane posted:So Russian psyops has figured out how to weaponize our native high-compaction Narrativists in the US and that is uh.......really not good for us in the long run. Source your quotes please
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Jul 5, 2017 18:13
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aware of dog posted:Bring it on, I'm not ashamed of my Finn/Poe Dameron OTP fan fiction Nor should you be.
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Jul 5, 2017 18:17
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Peven Stan posted:Source your quotes please Sounds like a Prester John quote to me...
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Jul 5, 2017 18:21
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Prester Jane posted:A Russian propaganda outfit building a relationship with a hive of radicalized supporters- in furtherance of a Narrative that discredits a media organization that is exposing the infiltration of Russia into US politics- falls well within what I would consider "weaponizing". And while The_Donald is not necessarily the mainstream of Trump supporters, they do have a substantial amount of influence on where the Overton window of acceptable opinions among Trump supporters winds up. By influencing The_Donald, you can shift the Overton window for an outsized swath of Trump supporters well beyond just the alt-right. You're doing that thing where you take your good and useful analysis and extrapolate it into an incorrect and unhelpful doomsday scenario. These Reddit chucklefucks are just white noise and their reach on social media isn't nearly as broad as you're assuming. Furthermore, Republicans and conservatives are starting to distance themselves from the more outrageous statements. Case in point: conservatives pushed back against Trump's Morning Joe and meme gif tweets. Not strongly or effectively, but they didn't throw in universally with his lot. This will basically just be loud and annoying but it won't be any worse than a Trump administration on its own.
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Jul 5, 2017 18:23
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Is that The_Donald guy gonna appear on TV as himself or as a voice modulated silhouette?
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Jul 5, 2017 18:26
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Skippy Granola posted:You're doing that thing where you take your good and useful analysis and extrapolate it into an incorrect and unhelpful doomsday scenario. I love how your entire response is basically nothing matters because some Republicans are deeply troubled
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Jul 5, 2017 18:30
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Tatsuta Age posted:I love how your entire response is basically nothing matters because some Republicans are deeply troubled More that this is a further descent into the void rather than the moment when T_D rises up and slays us all
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Jul 5, 2017 18:31
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Speaking on the current situation in the Middle East. No one gives a poo poo what Trump says and each side is preparing itself for a conflict. Tomorrow and the next few days probably will get a little interesting. We are expecting a pretty one sided fight in favor of Saudi and allies. Just curious if Trump will make any kind of statement about it as The US has forces stationed on both sides.
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Jul 5, 2017 18:35
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Tatsuta Age posted:I love how your entire response is basically nothing matters because some Republicans are deeply troubled Republicans being deeply troubled actually doesn't matter.
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Jul 5, 2017 18:41
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Tatsuta Age posted:I love how your entire response is basically nothing matters because some Republicans are deeply troubled That's an interesting read on it! To put it bluntly, what matters is that republicans aren't leaping on the bandwagon. They can't or won't openly rebel against a Republican president because it's bad politics. His many and various crimes are what will bring Trump down, not handwringing about some kekking turbonerds on Russian TV.
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https://twitter.com/Bye_ByeBirdy/status/882636534431834116 So many great replies to that one. 
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it really is telling that the thing making the alt right completely lose their minds is the idea that they might possibly face real world consequences for posting badly and hatefully on the internet also lol that the meltdown is so hard they're saying "maybe possibly outing a private citizen is bad so even though you didn't actually do that we are going to send hate speech to your children, who are not also private citizens for reasons"
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Hobo Clown posted:Is that The_Donald guy gonna appear on TV as himself or as a voice modulated silhouette? I hope the former, my black heart wants to see what a mod if that hellhole looks like. It's a tossup between thirty pounds underweight or sixty pounds overweight. "White" is the free space.
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Skippy Granola posted:You're doing that thing where you take your good and useful analysis and extrapolate it into an incorrect and unhelpful doomsday scenario. I never laid out any doomsday scenario. I laid out that what is happening is at present a bad thing with not good long term implications, that is hardly a doomsday scenario. I'm not calling this the end of the world, I am explaining why this situation is part of a larger trend that is leading to a bad place for the country. I was accused of predicting doomsday scenarios when I predicted the Malheur attacks and the PP attacks as well- and neither of those were actual doomsday predictions. They were accurate reads on the emerging trends within the particualr group of extremists that I am familiar with. Russia Today is a propaganda front for the Kremlin, and The_Donald has quite a bit more influence than what you are handwaving it away as. Skippy Granola posted:That's an interesting read on it! Things do not play out instantly, and memes take time to spread through a populatipon. A few token "serious person" GOP officials offering up some milquetoast words is in no way representative of what the GOP core is thinking. The_Donald is way closer to the GOP base than John McCain is. Finally, the idea that "bad politics" will somehow prevent a GOP official from supporting politically-convenient extremism is an argument that can only exist if history started sometime around breakfast yesterday. There is nothing in the last five decades of GOP history to support your underlying assumptions here. Prester Jane fucked around with this message at 19:05 on Jul 5, 2017 |
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LorneReams posted:Sounds like a Prester John quote to me... Oh, so now you're deliberately misgendering her, too. A reminder here that -I- am not allowed to report people.
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Caros posted:Before you know it they will be spraying aerosol oogly-boogly's too! That really won't be good. Stop being a lovely human being.
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Jul 5, 2017 19:04
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A lovely Reporter posted:Oh, so now you're deliberately misgendering her, too. Wait what?
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boner confessor posted:it really is telling that the thing making the alt right completely lose their minds is the idea that they might possibly face real world consequences for posting badly and hatefully on the internet The thing is that doxxing is a known threat in the community already. It's a fundamental existential threat to a lot of these people, and 'doxxing = bad' is an easy button to push. That the 'threat' comes from CNN, who is already their enemy, just makes it juicer and easier to rile up the base. By invoking the spectre of doxxing, CNN spoke their language and this allows them to respond in kind. I really wish CNN had left the last sentence off their statement. This is going to give troll ammo for months if not years. NmareBfly fucked around with this message at 19:07 on Jul 5, 2017 |
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DreamShipWrecked posted:I hope the former, my black heart wants to see what a mod if that hellhole looks like. You haven't seen the video of that former the Donald mod getting beaten up by a comedian?
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NmareBfly posted:I really with CNN had left the last sentence off their statement. This is going to give troll ammo for months if not years. there is nothing CNN can say or do that wont make these people furious as hell so it doesnt really matter
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