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The only thing I blame Nader at all for is perpetuating the myth that Bush and Gore were essentially the same person, and even that was something that Gore could have taken steps to refute. Otherwise I see Nader, and candidates like him, as more of a symptom that there are things out there that are important to voters that neither mainstream candidate is really addressing. For 2016, I don't believe that Bernie was a spoiler for the election at all (he absolutely could have been, but he worked hard not to be), but he did fill the same niche as a voice for people who didn't feel they were represented at all among the two major candidates.
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docbeard posted:Honestly, our voting infrastructure is complete poo poo, and has been for decades, and basically no one with the ability to do so wants to tackle it. republicans: "make voting harder because of stupid reason, actually do it while in power because it benefits us" democrats: "make voting easier because of good reason, but hem and haw when actually we're in power even though it benefits us"
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logikv9 posted:I imagine Twitter to be a huge suck zone but instead of anonymous posters shitposting we have anonymous users tweeting among thousands of actual IRL famous people who are easily as drawn into arguments as any SA thread Twitter is a leveling social force, and you fear it because it threatens your sense of superiority. 
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:*2020 presidential debates* Donald Trump will turn America into a real-life Kill La Kill by 2020.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Twitter is a leveling social force, and you fear it because it threatens your sense of superiority. I admit that Twitter has been incredibly amazing in that these famous to semifamous people honestly largely interact with the rest of the userbase, as long as that account isn't run by an intern ofc
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Dukakis was a bad candidate HW Bush was a bad candidate who ran out of Ronnie coattails after one bad term Dole was a bad candidate Gore was a bad candidate Kerry was basically THE bad candidate McCain was a bad candidate because he won his nomination at a really bad time to be The War Guy and didn't know how to pivot correctly from that Romney was Bizarro Kerry: The Bad Candidate HRC was The Hubris Candidate (which is bad) Sticking to every one of these 
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I wasn't around for the 80s elections but didn't Mondale focus heavily on deficit reduction
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etalian posted:More states should have mail in voting like California I'm not even talking about stuff like that (though I 100% agree; Minnesota has this too, and it owns). I'm thinking more of the operational side of how votes are collected and counted. You don't have to go all conspiracy theory about Russia (or Diebold) to realize that fifty separate ill-funded ill-maintained systems that were probably all built by the lowest builder and are being maintained by some unpaid intern is just a recipe for disaster. I'm more worried about WHOOPS THE UNSECURED ACCESS DATABASE WE STORED EVERYONE'S VOTES ON JUST poo poo THE BED AND OUR NIGHTLY BACKUPS HAVEN'T BEEN WORKING SINCE 2005 than nefarious hackers changing votes, really.
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(In his campaign I mean. I know he was a left wing hero as a legislator)
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comedyblissoption posted:single payer is already a mainstream opinion supported by a majority of the country and overwhelmingly popular with self-identified democratic party voters Hmm, maybe someone who has a lot of liquid assets... That's more Philly than soft pretzels
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GalacticAcid posted:I wasn't around for the 80s elections but didn't Mondale focus heavily on deficit reduction I started with Dukakis because I know fuckall about Mondale
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punk rebel ecks posted:Donald Trump will turn America into a real-life Kill La Kill by 2020. gently caress yeah I'm on the maga train now
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docbeard posted:The only thing I blame Nader at all for is perpetuating the myth that Bush and Gore were essentially the same person, and even that was something that Gore could have taken steps to refute. So you've learned nothing? Gore literally ran on "more of the same" plus balancing the budget. Of course he freaking lost and was compared to a Republican. Also lol that Donna Brazile was his campaign manager.
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On the contrary, this was the moment that Dread Abuela became president
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 STOP LETTING NERDS RUN FOR OFFICEReagan, Bill Clinton, Dubya, Obama all cool dudes america doesnt want some dork leading them
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Terror Sweat posted:
HW was also a nerd, he was just less nerdy than Dukakis
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Frijolero posted:So you've learned nothing? I learned that "neither of these people are good enough" is not the same thing as "these people are exactly as bad as each other". I may have been the only one, though.
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anime was right posted:zuckerberg trolling the dem establishment is hilarious, imo bloomberg/zuckerberg 2020
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Man Musk posted:bloomberg/zuckerberg 2020 zuck/bloom/berg 2020
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Concerned Citizen posted:oh my god death is certain
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logikv9 posted:Didn't gore run away from bill, despite bill being extremely popular thanks to the republicans Yes, which is why he picked Lieberman as his running mate also; Lieberman had been touted as the adult in the Democratic Party that tried to pressure Bill to resign.
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So how many of these are you going to buy to plaster all over your car?
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This is the entire Third Way ideology.
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Concerned Citizen posted:oh my god the funniest part of this is that that sticker is actually the best of the available choices which itself is allegorical for the democrats themselves a rich multilayered narrative
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Concerned Citizen posted:
Can I get a lawn sign of that for next year or is it $25+S&H?
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loquacius posted:the funniest part of this is that that sticker is actually the best of the available choices Wow yeah, I didn't notice how terrible the other ones were.
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Jeb! Repetition posted:This is the entire Third Way ideology. Democrats: We promise not to gently caress you too badly.
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SKULL.GIF posted:https://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2017/07/04/us/ap-us-house-election-georgia-lawsuit.html
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Concerned Citizen posted:oh my god why is the dccc still promoting hillary? this couldn't have anything to do with who they choose to support with their money. oh no. not at all.
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anime was right posted:why is the dccc still promoting hillary? this couldn't have anything to do with who they choose to support with their money. oh no. not at all. where is hillary
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loquacius posted:HW was also a nerd, he was just less nerdy than Dukakis he got some of that runoff coolness from reagan, but it quickly wore away. al gore was too stupid to do the same with clinton
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Concerned Citizen posted:where is hillary you can figure this one out dude, i believe in you.
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Oh Snapple! posted:what's your opinion on the usefulness of stickers, CC they have the same use as all other campaign chum
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How much the other 2 raise?
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